Tiberius Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, dubs said: what are you talking about? im entertaining your theories here. You’re not making any sense. The Dems are currently going through this impeachment inquiry about Ukraine. This Cohen fiasco happened last year. If what you’re saying Is true, why didn’t they just or don’t they just impeach on this obvious campaign finance crime (you’re words not mine) Dems just letting criminal justice system do its job there. Trump trying to steal the next election required immediate attention though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, dubs said: Im just playing out Tibs logic. <----- (there's your problem) he said trump committed a crime via Michael Cohen, but he can’t be indicted in court. My question is then why don’t the Dems impeach based on the crimes Tibs is saying Trump committed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Yuppers... and people pay money to listen to this in class. No wonder reason and debate has gone the way of the dodo bird among our "betters". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Yuppers... and people pay money to listen to this in class. No wonder reason and debate has gone the way of the dodo bird among our "betters". gone the way of? (it's always been that way, just that everyone thinks they are the first to discover it.... so cute and sweet people are built this way....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, dubs said: what are you talking about? im entertaining your theories here. You’re not making any sense. The Dems are currently going through this impeachment inquiry about Ukraine. This Cohen fiasco happened last year. If what you’re saying Is true, why didn’t they just or don’t they just impeach on this obvious campaign finance crime (you’re words not mine) It happened before he was President. Impeachment is for conduct while sitting in office. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, jrober38 said: It happened before he was President. Impeachment is for conduct while sitting in office. Cohen is in jail for not paying his taxes. He's not in jail for anything to do with the 2016 election. You're pushing false news because you're too programmed to read court filings for yourself and are still relying on proven liars and manipulators to interpret them for you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, row_33 said: gone the way of? (it's always been that way, just that everyone thinks they are the first to discover it.... so cute and sweet people are built this way....) People used to debate. They used to have reasons based on more than feelings for doing XYZ. None of these people are spring chickens, so there is little excuse except for living in a brain-washing bubble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 At least Mitt isn't carrying Putins water It now seems that not all Senate Republicans are intent on mimicking Kennedy’s example. Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) commented to reporters: “I saw no evidence from our intelligence community nor from our representatives today from the Department of State that there is any evidence of any kind that suggests Ukraine interfered in our elections. We have ample evidence that Russia interfered.” He dismissed Kennedy’s reliance on news reports that the senator from Louisiana falsely claimed implicated Ukraine. "We have to adhere to the facts that’s presented to us by our intelligence community. And I know some people will look at newspaper accounts and say, ‘Gee, this is what I read in the newspaper,’ Romney said. “But not every article is exactly accurate, and sometimes your articles are being promoted by an intelligence source that is trying to push a narrative that is not in our interest.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/12/04/senate-republicans-wont-remove-trump-they-might-not-spin-so-hard-him/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 She's going to be very ineffective at turning any public sentiment. (They all will be terrible at it but she just came off terribly.) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Yuppers... and people pay money to listen to this in class. No wonder reason and debate has gone the way of the dodo bird among our "betters". One must write essays to appease the prof if you want good grades. Why I liked math and science better, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Michael Gerhardt (University of NC Law Professor) President is guilty of bribery, obstruction of justice, obstruction of congress. Another "impartial witness!!" Whoohooo!! Did Nadler put out a call for nutty, smug, partisan hacks? If so, he got some "good" ones. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dubs Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, jrober38 said: It happened before he was President. Impeachment is for conduct while sitting in office. that’s not true. At best it’s unclear. There is precedent for impeachment of district judges for conduct before he was in office. If Dems thought they had him on that, we’d have seen this charade last year. Point is they don’t, and Tibs still can’t point to a single “crime” committed by this president. No one can. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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row_33 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: People used to debate. They used to have reasons based on more than feelings for doing XYZ. None of these people are spring chickens, so there is little excuse except for living in a brain-washing bubble. it's the most free and open era for information and discussion eveer there are 100s of great websites and other means to deliver intelligent conversation and study.... if you are stuck in a horrible rut, get out of it, all you have to do is stop volunteering for that rut... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Michael Gerhardt (University of NC Law Professor) President is guilty of bribery, obstruction of justice, obstruction of congress. Another "impartial witness!!" Whoohooo!! Did Nadler put out a call for nutty, smug, partisan hacks? If so, he got some "good" ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted December 4, 2019 Author Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dubs said: that’s not true. At best it’s unclear. There is precedent for impeachment of district judges for conduct before he was in office. If Dems thought they had him on that, we’d have seen this charade last year. Point is they don’t, and Tibs still can’t point to a single “crime” committed by this president. No one can. They had him under a FISA and were searching for anything they could pin on him. And found nothing. Full stop. JRober is an NPC. He can't square the above in his own head, because it destroys what he's been programmed to say/think/feel about Trump's "crimes", thus he ignores it. It's cognitive dissonance in real time. This is him in real time reading the above: Edited December 4, 2019 by Deranged Rhino 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: They've also all written editorials calling for Trump's impeachment, and are simply reiterating them. Gerhardt's now calling for Trump's ignoring congressional subpoenas a reason for impeachment. Because obstruction of Congress is impeachable. Unless you're Eric Holder. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 How have we lost our way to the extent that Jerry Nadler, who has hated Trump for decades, is running a committee to put forth Trump for impeachment in the House? How can anyone take this committee seriously when it has Hank Johnson, the guy that wondered if Guam might tip over, sitting on it? Witness Pamela Karlan sounded as if she was at a campaign rally trying to convince people of "something". Constitutional Scholar, my ass. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DC Tom Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: She's going to be very ineffective at turning any public sentiment. (They all will be terrible at it but she just came off terribly.) She openly misquoted the phone call she referenced in her ridiculous analogy. 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Untrue. The Judiciary Republicans have been given <20 hours. Democrats had plenty of time. The hearing will be substantially less useful if Republicans are given time to prepare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Tibs makes Corky from Life Goes on look like a Nobel prize winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo_Gal Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Trump's Wiretap Tweets Raise Risk of Impeachment - If the president has made false claims of a crime without proof, there's only one constitutional remedy. By Noah FeldmanMarch 6, 2017, 1:42 PM EST </snip> 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Even Trump’s lap dog Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) was not going to buy into the Trump lie on Ukraine hacking the Democratic National Committee. “It was the Russians. I’m 1,000 percent confident that the hack of the DNC was by Russian operatives, no one else,” he told the media Tuesday. “I’ve got no doubt that it was the Russians who stole the DNC emails. It wasn’t Ukraine. Russia was behind the stolen DNC emails and [John] Podesta and all that good stuff.” He added, “So as to the Ukraine, they had zero to do with the hacking of the DNC and the stealing of the emails. Whether or not people from the Ukraine met with DNC operatives, I don’t know. All I’ve seen is press reports that no one has validated.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, Wacka said: Tibs makes Corky from Life Goes on look like a Nobel prize winner. You are the one defending a criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: Trump's Wiretap Tweets Raise Risk of Impeachment - If the president has made false claims of a crime without proof, there's only one constitutional remedy. By Noah FeldmanMarch 6, 2017, 1:42 PM EST </snip> In Bloomberg, no less. His testimony is misuse of government office for campaign purposes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He's the "friendliest" one on the panel for the Republicans: Jonathan Turley (George Washington University Law) Anti-Trump guy thinks these proceedings are dangerous. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: He's the "friendliest" one on the panel for the Republicans: Jonathan Turley (George Washington University Law) Anti-Trump guy thinks these proceedings are dangerous. Chairman Creosote must be regretting calling Turley right now. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Uncle Joe Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: He's the "friendliest" one on the panel for the Republicans: Jonathan Turley (George Washington University Law) Anti-Trump guy thinks these proceedings are dangerous. It's a mad, mad world ? Edited December 4, 2019 by Uncle Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Corrupting the election process is a direct threat to our republic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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