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Josh was asked how he'd built chemistry with John Brown so quickly and said some nice things and that he has faith in John Brown to make plays.

Who was the dweeb who asked a follow on question about whether the 3rd down pass that went off Brown's fingertips was an example of that faith, given he didn't catch it?

About 3 minutes in

 

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2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Josh was asked how he'd built chemistry with John Brown so quickly and said some nice things and that he has faith in John Brown to make plays.

Who was the dweeb who asked a follow on question about whether the 3rd down pass that went off Brown's fingertips was an example of that faith, given he didn't catch it?

About 3 minutes in

 

Sheesh!

Reporters that ask BS questions like that need to be banned for two games as punishment. Just sayin...

 

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The good, bad and interesting about today's game:

 

The Good:

*  We won the game and raised our record to 6 - 2.  The best start since 1993.  That's 27 years!

*  The defensive adjustment at half was brilliant.  To play so poorly against the run in the 1st half and then to shut the run down in the 2nd half is good defensive coaching & execution.

*  Daboll added some nice wrinkles to the offense in the 1st half and he got Singletary the ball.  Singletary went a long way towards showing us that he is the desperately needed big play guy on offense.  Breakout game for him.

*  Special teams made a huge play with a great KO return.

*  Beasley caught a TD pass for the 3rd game in a row.

*  Allen was accurate on BOTH his long throws. 

*  The key play where Allen & Brown converted the 3rd & 18 late in the 4th to seal the win was a thing of beauty. 

*  #97 is a stud.

 

The Bad:

*  The run defense in the 1st half was terrible.  It reminded me of last years 2nd quarter performance in the Jacksonville game.  The defense also let the Redskins out of the hole a couple of times robbing the Bills of the field position benefit of your opponent going into the wind.  Also the Bills did not force a TO playing a raw rookie QB.

*  The Bills short yardage offense was horrible.  It's bad when BOTH play calling & execution on short yardage and goal line situations was so poor.  The play calling after the Bills had a 1st & goal at the 2 in the first quarter was the worst I've seen. 

*  DaBold went into a shell in the 3rd quarter. 

*  I may catch heat here but I thought Foster misplayed the Allen deep ball.  With the wind conditions today a WR has to be prepared to track the ball in the air as it WILL move around.  That pass wasn't that far off and had Foster taken a couple of steps towards the ball it may have been a TD.  Instead he kept running the pattern straight down the sideline.

*  The officiating.  Not calling a PI on the missed deep pass to Brown is unacceptable.  You can't let the DB wrap up the WR's legs BEFORE the ball arrives.  Had Brown been free to move he easily tracks the ball and makes a catch for a big gain.

 

The Interesting:

*  I thought BOTH deep balls were thrown well by Allen.  The first to Brown was almost caught in spite of a guy wrapping Brown's legs up well before the ball got there.  The 2nd was misplayed by Foster IMO.

*  The pass play before Allen converted a 3rd & 18 to Brown was an amazing play in spite of Brown dropping the ball.  Allen is one of only a couple of NFL QB's that could have avoided the sack on that play.  He then threw a perfect pass that should have been caught and scored a TD.  This is why we should be optimistic about Allen's future as our QB.

*  We had another almost Allen fumble.  I get people's concern and the argument about these kinds of designed runs.  But keep in mind that on that last TD drive there were TWO big plays that benefited from Allen's threat to run:  1)  The first was on the completion to Brown that converted a 3rd & 18.  It was Allen's threat to run that brought the safety off his coverage of Brown,  2)  the 2nd was the Singletary run.  That was the read option play that Allen almost lost a fumble on.  This time Allen read the D, gave the ball to Motor who went in for the TD untouched.  These are the benefits that we get from Allen running that don't show up on the stat line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Reporters that ask BS questions like that need to be banned for two games as punishment. Just sayin...

 

 

I think they kind of are their own punishment.  Josh's answer was perfect:

"I need to put the ball in a little better spot.  John would tell you he needs to make the catch.  We're a group of guys who love each other and are working every week to be better"

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So watched some NFL Redzone and guess what other good teams suck too. The world isn't over folks we have a good team and lets enjoy the ride.

 

 

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31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think they kind of are their own punishment.  Josh's answer was perfect:

"I need to put the ball in a little better spot.  John would tell you he needs to make the catch.  We're a group of guys who love each other and are working every week to be better"

That throw on the run was money though.😋

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44 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Reporters that ask BS questions like that need to be banned for two games as punishment. Just sayin...

 

Sal to Devin "Did you know you'd be as big a part of the game plan?"

Devin: "No, just same approach; stay ready be ready..."

 

Next reporter to Devin, very next question: "Did you know coming in you were going to be this big a part of the game plan?"

 

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1 hour ago, Virgil said:

 

Yeah, I want to see a replay of that.

On the replays shown during the game this looked to easily be a first down.  Bad call.  

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2 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:

I think not only making the playoffs but at least winning one game should be where the bar is set.  Not sure they can get there unless we see a more aggressive offense and defense.  They haven't asked Allen to do a whole lot the past several games.  I wonder if they just expect him to turn it on when the defense struggles again 

You realize that this is the first real year of the rebuild after clearing the salary cap mess.  Making the playoffs under those circumstances is incredible.  Just because you declare that we need to win in the post season this year does not diminish what a great job management has done with this team.

 

Pump the breaks just a bit.

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1 hour ago, Billsatlastin2018 said:


 

Not sure.

 

Changed a few times.

Think the Cowboys & Patriots are still unbeatable.

Browns & Steelers? Possible... not probable or likely.

The Bills are better than both the Browns and Steelers and it it is not close.  That is not a guarantee they will win of course. 

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2 hours ago, CommonCents said:

I’m having a great day after the Browns complete their “comeback” over Brandon Allen you can keep an eye out for all the posters crying about the Bills being a pick em against a 3-5 Browns team. 

A 2 and 6 Browns team 🙂

4 hours ago, Beach said:

question: when Knox caught the ball on 3rd down he landed on top of the defender, after he reached was he still short of a 1st down?  this happened on the drive that ended in turn over on downs.

Yeah, that was a bad spot

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8 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

You realize that this is the first real year of the rebuild after clearing the salary cap mess.  Making the playoffs under those circumstances is incredible.  Just because you declare that we need to win in the post season this year does not diminish what a great job management has done with this team.

 

Pump the breaks just a bit.

Oh dear lord. Beane and McD made the salary cap mess.  Teams go from last to first or at least the playoffs all the time.  Playoffs or bust this year. Allen alone will determine if Beane and McD are here in 2021 

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2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Oh dear lord. Beane and McD made the salary cap mess.  Teams go from last to first or at least the playoffs all the time.  Playoffs or bust this year. Allen alone will determine if Beane and McD are here in 2021 

Uh no.

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2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Oh dear lord. Beane and McD made the salary cap mess.  Teams go from last to first or at least the playoffs all the time.  Playoffs or bust this year. Allen alone will determine if Beane and McD are here in 2021 

You are mostly wrong in just about everything you said.

 

Beane and MCD did not make the salary call mess and Beane and MCD are at virtually no risk of not being here in 2021.

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1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said:

Oh dear lord. Beane and McD made the salary cap mess.  Teams go from last to first or at least the playoffs all the time.  Playoffs or bust this year. Allen alone will determine if Beane and McD are here in 2021 

I respect your opinion but strongly disagree.   They inherited many long term bad contracts and huge dead cap dollars.  I agree that they did cause some issues with releasing some over priced players adding to the problem, but that had to be done.

 

I don't see many last to first story lines this year.  The 49er's are doing great,  but they had a strong team last year.

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If it was completed, the scramble by Josh and drop by Brown would have made the highlight reel for years to come.

 

Good win.  Have some up issues though.  Need to fix the run defense now.  It’s become a huge problem.

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1 hour ago, Virgil said:

 

Yeah, I want to see a replay of that.

Don't believe he was down until after he had the first because he was on top of the defender. Unfortunately the ref missed that and blew the play dead (from what I remember).

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1 minute ago, Magox said:

You are mostly wrong in just about everything you said.

 

Beane and MCD did not make the salary call mess and Beane and MCD are at virtually no risk of not being here in 2021.

The salary cap mess was made by trading TT, Dareus, and Watkins which accelerated the dead money.  McD had cap space to bring back Gilmore and chose not to. But he spent wisely on Hyde and Poyer. 
I tend to agree that a playoff season this year may even buy both contract extensions. Allen looks like he is at least a capable QB at this point. But if they go 5-11 and Allen regresses next year against a second place schedule they will be in the hot seat. 

5 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said:

I respect your opinion but strongly disagree.   They inherited many long term bad contracts and huge dead cap dollars.  I agree that they did cause some issues with releasing some over priced players adding to the problem, but that had to be done.

 

I don't see many last to first story lines this year.  The 49er's are doing great,  but they had a strong team last year.

They inherited the contracts. They created the dead cap space. It's just a fact. 
It doesn’t matter now. They chose their path and forfeited the 2018 season. In the end if Allen is a franchise QB one bad season may be worth it.

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4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

The salary cap mess was made by trading TT, Dareus, and Watkins which accelerated the dead money.  McD had cap space to bring back Gilmore and chose not to. But he spent wisely on Hyde and Poyer. 
I tend to agree that a playoff season this year may even buy both contract extensions. Allen looks like he is at least a capable QB at this point. But if they go 5-11 and Allen regresses next year against a second place schedule they will be in the hot seat. 

They inherited the contracts. They created the dead cap space. It's just a fact. 
It doesn’t matter now. They chose their path and forfeited the 2018 season. In the end if Allen is a franchise QB one bad season may be worth it.

I believe we agree on most issues. 

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5 minutes ago, davefan66 said:

If it was completed, the scramble by Josh and drop by Brown would have made the highlight reel for years to come.

 

Good win.  Have some up issues though.  Need to fix the run defense now.  It’s become a huge problem.

Agreed. Allen is so close. The slant he missed to Brown was a perfect fake but a terrible throw. Brown beat his guy so badly that a throw behind him was a pick 6 possibility. Allen needed a 90% fastball there not the full heater.

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5 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

The salary cap mess was made by trading TT, Dareus, and Watkins which accelerated the dead money.  McD had cap space to bring back Gilmore and chose not to. But he spent wisely on Hyde and Poyer. 
I tend to agree that a playoff season this year may even buy both contract extensions. Allen looks like he is at least a capable QB at this point. But if they go 5-11 and Allen regresses next year against a second place schedule they will be in the hot seat. 

They inherited the contracts. They created the dead cap space. It's just a fact. 
It doesn’t matter now. They chose their path and forfeited the 2018 season. In the end if Allen is a franchise QB one bad season may be worth it.

Who that's gone would you want to have retained?

 

Gilmore of course, but, it's a two way street.

 

Watkins? No thank you.

 

Dareus? I laugh.  

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So why did a bunch of fans leave at halftime? That was weird. I thought we LOVE the cold weather at the Ralph.

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The Bills had control of the game the entire day, had no costly blunders, and didn't give up any touchdowns.

 

NEXT.

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