NoSaint Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said: Exactly. Josh is on pace for a 4k season. Jimbo's best year was 3844. He never had a 4k season and he's in Canton. Bringing up Jim’s stats is terribly out of touch with a league that’s evolved a ton in the last 30 years. that season would be 16th in the league last year and was 3rd in 1991 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Oil Company Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Count W's, not yards. Amateurs...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Da webster guy said: It's hilarious to me that after a great last minute defensive stand in the home opener to remain undefeated, this is the post you come up with. 250 yards per game puts you at 4000 on the year. That's Josh's pace right now, a 4k passing total in his first full NFL season. I'd worry more about our offensive line without Feliciano and the poor play of Cody Ford thus far. Josh definitely won't get your 300 yard season for you if the line protects like it did today. And yes Josh did a remarkable job considering the O-line, which has been a concern for how many years now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Oil Company Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, NoSaint said: Bringing up Jim’s stats is terribly out of touch with a league that’s evolved a ton in the last 30 years. that season would be 16th in the league last year and was 3rd in 1991 Exactly - its almost a completely different sport now. There is a reason these guys are breaking all these passing records today. Can't touch QBs, can't lay out WR's going over the middle, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: ....and Russell Wilson has 12 in 128 games And that Ring 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: But are wins a stat? Yes. The only stat that matters. Edited September 23, 2019 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsfan1972 Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Bills Oil Company said: Count W's, not yards. Amateurs...... And what is the Bills record those 36 games? .500 I think. Wouldn't 300 maybe help them to a few more wins? Heck 18 losses and not a 300 yard game. Pretty sure last one was vs. Miami Christmas Eve that the Bills lost in OT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 hour ago, BillsFanM.D. said: On pace for 4K for the season. 250 and a win every week. I'll take it. In evaluating Allen, you can't discount his elusiveness and running either. It all adds in. He's performing well for a guy with 14ish starts. This season it hasn't factored in as much as last year, which could be a good thing because it means he is getting things done another way and don't need him to run as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Dopey said: I know the OP is going back 36 games, but I'm more interested on Josh and his abilities as a QB. Not really thinking about Tyrod/Peterman in 2017. Having said this, it's not really a surprise we didn't hit 300 yds last year. We had one of the worst o-lines in the league last year to go with Peterman, Barkley, Anderson and a rookie. Arizona and Houston may be in the running, but we were bottom 3 in o-line talent/performance. Throw in one of the worst WR corps in the league and that's a recipe for sub 300 yd games. This year, we are breaking in a new o-line, WR corp and RB stable. Did I mention all new Te's? I mean, we have Josh, Zay and Dawkins back from last year's starters. We're in week 3. It's gonna take a little time for a whole new offensive unit to gel. To be 3-0 with this scenario is amazing, I don't care who we played. I now this can be seen as bunch of excuses to not reach 300 yds passing, but I see them as reasons. I have no doubt we will improve offensively as the season progresses. In the meantime, I'm loving the hell out of the season so far. But as to his point, 300 yards isn’t a feat any longer. It’s akin to not breaking 75 yards rushing or getting 2 turnovers in a game. It’s 20 years without a playoff appearance. Even totally incompetent teams have done it. thats not to say it’s a big deal, it’s just surprisingly outside the norm statistically even when you account for all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: And that Ring Yep. He threw for one 300 yard game that year, including the playoffs, and averaged 209 yds a game. Hmmmm.... Edited September 23, 2019 by billsfan1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 who cares we won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bills Oil Company said: Count W's, not yards. Amateurs...... Maybe because offensive performances of 250 yards isn't going to get you W's against the leagues best It barely beat 2 teams that are winless right now....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Yep. He threw for one 300 yard game that year, including the playoffs, and averaged 209 yds a game. Hmmmm.... Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Bills Oil Company said: Exactly - its almost a completely different sport now. There is a reason these guys are breaking all these passing records today. Can't touch QBs, can't lay out WR's going over the middle, etc. You can touch QBs, just cannot certain QBs. We will see the difference first hand next week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 50 minutes ago, BillsFanM.D. said: On pace for 4K for the season. 250 and a win every week. I'll take it. In evaluating Allen, you can't discount his elusiveness and running either. It all adds in. He's performing well for a guy with 14ish starts. In each of the past two games we have had a couple of really long well-placed passes dropped as well, a few by Knox. Not getting down on Knox, but both those games with those receptions being made could have tipped the "magical" 300 mark - really not that much of a significant stat with the way this defense has been playing. We are 3-0 and that is a good accomplishment for this team. Allen and the offense was sloppy today and left some points on the field. They have things to work on and no one should be surprised that this offense and Allen is a work in progress. I like the fact that Allen came off the field after his interception and was fuming at himself. He needs those moments to temper the overconfidence he has in his physical abilities. Those moments are painful yet teaching moments and they make him more receptive to coaching from Daboll and from Dorsey. Daboll made a few questionable calls as well, when we were having success off tackle and it was 3rd and short he continued to try the misdirection plays to attack the edge and killed one drive with being a bit too cute. Credit the Bengals D, as the Bills thought they could catch them with those misdirection plays attacking the edge, but they were well-coached to stay disciplined and set the edges. Whatever Daboll thought he saw was not there today - maybe those stretch and zone plays off of misdirection with Singletary would have been different, but we did not have that running ability on the roster today. Even McKenzie with his speed on the reverse had to settle to cutting it up inside as the outside was taken away - the Bengals coaching staff have seen what Daboll has been doing and had a good game plan going in on D. We got dinged up quite a bit today so you know the hitting was pretty hard out there - hoping the dings are not too bad. Feliciano has been playing at a high level and it hurt to lose him, Nsekhi has been coming in and out of the past few games so I think he has some kind of nagging injury, and Horrible Harry looked like he hurt his knee. Glad we got the win - Josh has some things to work on, but credit him for manning up and digging the team out of the hole he helped create. Say what you want, but he certainly knows how to raise his play to mount a come back when needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, John Adams said: They had an aggressive play calling that was working and only up 14, started to play call like they were up 28 in the third. The end around to McKenzie (like a QB sweep but he flicked it to McKenzie) on 3rd and 1 was an atrocious call. There has been complaining about lack of downfield throws but that’s because of the smurf WRs. Longer throws you need a little more target. The good news is that Allen is working on the throws he needs to. The bad news is that they aren’t loading up da bomb that much. He seems to look for it but it’s not there and he checks down. The miss to Jones looked bad on replay but he didn’t have time to throw as Zay came open and had to launch late. The Bills may need to click on a couple of these to have a chance next Sunday. Lets hope that happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 I swear.....ppl just have to find something to B word about He is passing for over 250 yards a game.....on pace for a 4K season......meanwhile the team has a balanced offense and is undefeated Do ppl realize that you see these high yard passing are usually associated with shootouts and teams trying to come back that are getting their asses kicked by the other team and abandon the run? Were fine.....relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I swear.....ppl just have to find something to B word about He is passing for over 250 yards a game.....on pace for a 4K season......meanwhile the team has a balanced offense and is undefeated Do ppl realize that you see these high yard passing are usually associated with shootouts and teams trying to come back that are getting their asses kicked by the other team and abandon the run? Were fine.....relax Yeah, teams like NE, KC, NO, LAR etc. always having to battle back in games to win......... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Yeah, teams like NE, KC, NO, LAR etc. always having to battle back in games to win......... You just mentioned 4 teams out of how many teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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