dubs Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Bob in Mich said: What a coincidence!! Another one. This is some amazing streak we are on. Anyone that speaks out against Trump coincidentally is a lifelong lying lowlife bastard. We gotta be in the hundreds now. I mean, the odds must be astronomical at this point. Ya know what, I am going to go out on a limb. I am going to predict that this streak continues around here. Serious question: Do you find it at all possible that there are thousands of career bureaucrats that find Trump unacceptable for the primary reason that he threatens their position of wealth and power and as a result they would do anything they can to defend the status quo? or no...orange man bad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 As the masks continue to slip, choices will need to be made by individuals like Bob and Gary: either admit they were conned, lied to, and abused by proven liars and manipulators — or side with their abusers who care more about protecting child rapist than about truth. I have little hope either of those folk are smart enough or principled enough to realize the truth in the above statement. Or that they are being used. But that’s on them. They had a chance to choose truth over ignorance and have (thus far) doubled down on ignorance. Now it’s just fun to watch them make asses of themselves. “This time we really got him!” 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 time to cook up another fable against Trump and pretend this whistleblower thing never happened take 52! action!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Good on Barr. The issue IS the Orange Mans request. The issue is that hatred makes a reasonable person irrational, and in this case causes them to accept as fact something that by definition is speculation. Every prominent hate group follows the same pattern. Find a dummy willing to listen to what they have say, outrage of said dummy ensues, and it's on to the next story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, dubs said: Serious question: Do you find it at all possible that there are thousands of career bureaucrats that find Trump unacceptable for the primary reason that he threatens their position of wealth and power and as a result they would do anything they can to defend the status quo? or no...orange man bad? Sure, their are probably a lot of folks that work in the government that don't like Trump. The 'do anything to defend status quo', though would describe far, far fewer. Consider that some of these folks have basically trashed their careers in order to speak up. Also, in this environment, some are risking the safety of themselves and their families. All of these people can't be making up BS stories, risking their lives, families, and livelihoods. Let me ask you a serious question. Is it possible that Trump has done misdeeds and those misdeeds prompted some principled career bureaucrats to take the above mentioned risks? I hope you would agree that if they honestly thought they were witnessing misdeeds, that they should speak up. Or, no, OrangeMan = God ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Good on Barr. The issue IS the Orange Mans request. If said request was ever made. Really, an intellectually honest person doesn't believe any of this bull####, as it's so obviously a product of the naked self-interest of the people claiming it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Or, no, OrangeMan = God ? Who is this in reference to? I think it’s safe to say a VAST majority of Trump supporters will say he’s far from perfect but agree with the direction he wants to take the country and will put up with his imperfections to support him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilsner Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: As the masks continue to slip, choices will need to be made by individuals like Bob and Gary: either admit they were conned, lied to, and abused by proven liars and manipulators — or side with their abusers who care more about protecting child rapist than about truth. I have little hope either of those folk are smart enough or principled enough to realize the truth in the above statement. Or that they are being used. But that’s on them. They had a chance to choose truth over ignorance and have (thus far) doubled down on ignorance. Now it’s just fun to watch them make asses of themselves. “This time we really got him!” It will indeed be quite interesting to see how things unfold and witness how the Bobs and Garys react to more truth coming out. Will they admit they are wrong or double down. Will they see the light or melt like the wicked witch or slither away into a deep, dark, moldy hole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Sure, their are probably a lot of folks that work in the government that don't like Trump. The 'do anything to defend status quo', though would describe far, far fewer. Consider that some of these folks have basically trashed their careers in order to speak up. Also, in this environment, some are risking the safety of themselves and their families. All of these people can't be making up BS stories, risking their lives, families, and livelihoods. Let me ask you a serious question. Is it possible that Trump has done misdeeds and those misdeeds prompted some principled career bureaucrats to take the above mentioned risks? I hope you would agree that if they honestly thought they were witnessing misdeeds, that they should speak up. Or, no, OrangeMan = God ? Who Bob, who are these dedicated career people who have seen their careers trashed, their lives ruined, these tellers of truth that can't be making all this stuff up? I haven't seen the fallout. Is there a running list of federal employees who were not given their annual automatic indexed increase, their co-pays driven from $5 to $7, or being forced to work until age 58 v 56? You'd think this would be big news outside of Ann Arbor. To answer your question, of course its possible. However, it's also a demonstrable fact that certain noble servants in the Obama admin tried to paint an picture of treason and subversion against the president and failed spectacularly. Why do you support that? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in Mich Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Pilsner said: It will indeed be quite interesting to see how things unfold and witness how the Bobs and Garys react to more truth coming out. Will they admit they are wrong or double down. Will they see the light or melt like the wicked witch or slither away into a deep, dark, moldy hole. What am I wrong about, Pilsner? Delusional Rhino has his own narrative if you haven't noticed. He makes false arguments so that he can hop in and shoot them down. He is not a serious person and unfortunately, he is just a liar. I can no longer believe anything he says because of these past lies. Where did I opine anything about Epstein? I have stated that to think that EVERYONE critical of Trump is either unethical or bought and paid for by Hillary is just blind partisanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warren Zevon Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: it's also a demonstrable fact that certain noble servants in the Obama admin tried to paint an picture of treason No, it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Practically the same person minus killing all them Jews. Not to mention starting a world war and making the trains run on time... However, we've been told by the morons on the left that Trump is an actual literal super mecha-Hitler, so it must be true!!!!11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 14 minutes ago, Gary Busey said: No, it isn't. Yes, it is Silly Wabbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: The funny thing about the Dems is just because the people who support them are dumb as bricks, they somehow think EVERYONE is dumb as bricks. You'd think they'd lose registered voters who are just tired of being embarrassed. But no. They all show up every day with their REO Speedwagon meltdown evidence that starts with "Heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another you've been messin' around...or maybe I read it from a friend who read it from a friend...but either way...ORANGEMANBAD!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted November 7, 2019 Author Share Posted November 7, 2019 57 minutes ago, dubs said: Serious question: Do you find it at all possible that there are thousands of career bureaucrats that find Trump unacceptable for the primary reason that he threatens their position of wealth and power and as a result they would do anything they can to defend the status quo? or no...orange man bad? You guys will believe anything. Trump is is obvious just a complete POS. How do you people even have any respect for this total jerk? Does it all just come down to him being racist? If if that's true it just shows how perfectly rational people can be reduced to complete idiots because of their racist beliefs. 1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said: The funny thing about the Dems is just because the people who support them are dumb as bricks, they somehow think EVERYONE is dumb as bricks. You'd think they'd lose registered voters who are just tired of being embarrassed. But no. They all show up every day with their REO Speedwagon meltdown evidence that starts with "Heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another you've been messin' around...or maybe I read it from a friend who read it from a friend...but either way...ORANGEMANBAD!!!" You support Trump blindly and you have the gall to call others idiots? F U! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 26 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: What am I wrong about, Pilsner? Delusional Rhino has his own narrative if you haven't noticed. He makes false arguments so that he can hop in and shoot them down. He is not a serious person and unfortunately, he is just a liar. I can no longer believe anything he says because of these past lies. You're so full of *****, Bob. Show me one lie I've pushed. Just one. Go. Did I lie about Trump not conspiring with Russia? Nope. Backed that up with evidence and was proven correct three years ahead of the curve. Did I lie about the existence of a war between the administration and the global IC? Nope. Backed that up with evidence and was proven correct (soon to be proven even more correct). Considering those are the two stories I've covered in detail and for the past few years, calling me a liar for proving your position wrong is not only cowardly, it's a ***** move. Don't be a *****, Bob. Be better than Gary. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: You're so full of *****, Bob. Show me one lie I've pushed. Just one. Go. Speculation is rampant you may not be a Rhino at all. Bob says "Checkmate". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Bob in Mich said: Sure, their are probably a lot of folks that work in the government that don't like Trump. The 'do anything to defend status quo', though would describe far, far fewer. Consider that some of these folks have basically trashed their careers in order to speak up. Also, in this environment, some are risking the safety of themselves and their families. All of these people can't be making up BS stories, risking their lives, families, and livelihoods. Let me ask you a serious question. Is it possible that Trump has done misdeeds and those misdeeds prompted some principled career bureaucrats to take the above mentioned risks? I hope you would agree that if they honestly thought they were witnessing misdeeds, that they should speak up. Or, no, OrangeMan = God ? I honestly don’t think that’s possible and I’m saying that based on the actual evidence we’ve seen. The Mueller report and the transcript of the Ukraine call reveal nothing illegal or “misdeeds” as you say. The only thing it reveals is a concerted effort on the part of the government establishment to undo an election. I also don’t see how anyone has been threatened or are ruining any careers. These all appear to be carefully coordinated plans to take this president down. The key actors potentially landing jobs at universities, in the media, or some think tank. Edited November 7, 2019 by dubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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