swede316 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Bass Pro Stadium.......it has a nice ring to it. I like it......Build it right next to Marine Midland and the waterfront....why not and try and redevelop downtown....Casino's and hotels too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 It will never happen. I like our current stadium. Plenty of parking. Great neighborhood, even with the Bro ( Hammer) next door. . Multiple routes/thruways to access it. The Bills chose wisely 30 + years ago. With the current lease and the age of our owner, the headline is nothing more than political grandstanding without any substance. Thank You Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 you are right, I'm going to change my tune. The stadium should be red and blue, with a big observation deck so you can see Niagara Falls on a clear day, or you can look down on the thousands of people waiting in line to get into bass pro shops. I like the toboggan idea, but why not a real ski jump? We might as well build it now so we don't have to when Giambra gets the olympics to buffalo in a few years. The downhill was going to be at chestnut ridge, but the rope tow is closed so they may move it to emery park in east aurora. (anybody ever ski there? Pretty funny stuff). anyway, I'm sorry for all of the negativity and I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEW STADIUM!!!! 298116[/snapback] LOL great post. A new stadium in WNY has about as much chance as, well, a hot dog in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swede316 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 well, a hot dog in January. Ummm TED"S is still open in January! ....Damn I'd kill for a TED's hot dog. Shoulda never left Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sound_n_Fury Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Well said. What a joke. Talk about appealing to people's deepest hopes. What a schmuck. By the way, passing resolutions is cheap, but actually building stadiums isn't. 298248[/snapback] Here's how seriously The Buffalo News took this proposal. Scroll down, down, down... http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial/20050406/1005105.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 I hope they have enough of a sense of humor to name it "Ed Cottrell Stadium". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 city government is so fugged up, that it has been taken over by a control board. In other words, Masiello and the city councilmen should all be layed off since their duties are now being taken care of by others. I can appreciate your enthusiasm for the project. Living in Buffalo for 45 years has taught me otherwise. 298050[/snapback] A downtown location will make it much easier for the Canadians using the New Peace Bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 A downtown location will make it much easier for the Canadians using the New Peace Bridge 298396[/snapback] There is no need for a new Peace Bridge, since no one will be crossing with frequency, because they now have to shell out $$$ for a passport to go back and forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 There is no need for a new Peace Bridge, since no one will be crossing with frequency, because they now have to shell out $$$ for a passport to go back and forth. Build the stadium on a man-made island in the middle of the new Peace Bridge. Canadians can sit on the west side of the stadium, and Americans on the east, if they don't have a passport. They could even set up a Canadian Ballet club on the west side of the island. Have a special low-cost passport that allows people to go anywhere on the island when there's a game. By being in the middle, the Canadians could pick up part of the cost to build it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Build the stadium on a man-made island in the middle of the new Peace Bridge. Canadians can sit on the west side of the stadium, and Americans on the east, if they don't have a passport. They could even set up a Canadian Ballet club on the west side of the island. Have a special low-cost passport that allows people to go anywhere on the island when there's a game. By being in the middle, the Canadians could pick up part of the cost to build it. 298506[/snapback] You are a true visionary. I especially like the part about the Canadien Ballet Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 New Stadium? What, are you guys nuts? (Or have all of your economic problems been sorted out?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 would it have a roof ? what about all around the top a multilevel place to sit eat and drink ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 I've often felt that a downtown stadium with a "great lakes/niagara falls" theme would be pretty cool. How about a giant waterfall in one of the endzones? That would make a good TV backdrop. Also a good way for the EZC to clean the stink off. Time for TBD'ers to start designing. 298089[/snapback] Good idea ! Tampa Bay has their pirate ship ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 it could look like an old 1800's fort . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Addict Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 New Stadium?What, are you guys nuts? (Or have all of your economic problems been sorted out?) 298541[/snapback] If a good economy was a requirement for a new stadium there wouldn't be newer stadiums in Pittsburgh, Detroit, or Cleveland. The WNY economy isn't great but the Bills are in the top half of NFL profitability and have huge fan support. A new stadium is just what Buffalo needs to ensure the Bills stay here in Buffalo for the long run. Besides with NY State handing the NY Jets a huge check for their new stadium, now is the right time to ask for our piece of the pie for a new football venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RVJ Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Yeah.... It's all about YOU! 298258[/snapback] Tommy's got his period.... I just don't want to pay $1500.00 a seat personal license fee. I won't be able to afford the 14 seats . I helped support this team for 27 years. Maybe its good thing...we will have more blackouts so schmucks like you don't get a free ride anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Tommy's got his period....I just don't want to pay $1500.00 a seat personal license fee. I won't be able to afford the 14 seats . I helped support this team for 27 years. Maybe its good thing...we will have more blackouts so schmucks like you don't get a free ride anymore. 298584[/snapback] Personal Seat Licenses. After the taxpayers built Mike Brown's Bengals a new stadium, they started with the PSL's. First thing they did was distribute a phony seating chart - folks who ponied up for a 40 yard seat found their assigned seats were actually on the 20, the 20 yard seats ended up in the EZ. It took a law suit for the B'gals to refund excess $$$ paid and/or provide the promised seats. After a few years as people decided not to renew their season tix, the B'gals said they could not do that, that they actually agreed to purchase season tickets for 10 years or so and would sue any PSL owner who wouldn't pay. That took another lawsuit against the Bengals to stop that garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Personal Seat Licenses. After the taxpayers built Mike Brown's Bengals a new stadium, they started with the PSL's. First thing they did was distribute a phony seating chart - folks who ponied up for a 40 yard seat found their assigned seats were actually on the 20, the 20 yard seats ended up in the EZ. It took a law suit for the B'gals to refund excess $$$ paid and/or provide the promised seats. After a few years as people decided not to renew their season tix, the B'gals said they could not do that, that they actually agreed to purchase season tickets for 10 years or so and would sue any PSL owner who wouldn't pay. That took another lawsuit against the Bengals to stop that garbage. 298626[/snapback] Why Mike Brown is the most revered owner/GM in the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMannn Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 If the key to development is a new stadium, how come there is virtually nothing out at the RWS? ECC, a couple bars, and a convenience store across the street. WHOPEE!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Only in Buffalo can paying hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to move an already existing business a few miles be considered "progress." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 If the key to development is a new stadium, how come there is virtually nothing out at the RWS? ECC, a couple bars, and a convenience store across the street. WHOPEE!!!! Come on man, we also have a Texas Hots, Subways, TBCY, and last year a car wash was built down the road. You really are selling this stadium/economic impact thing a little short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jad1 Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Only in Buffalo can paying hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars to move an already existing business a few miles be considered "progress." 298720[/snapback] Maybe they can add some swings and store books in the new stadium, so when the Bills aren't playing, parents can take their kids to the "park" and "library." And maybe add a couple of pentium IIs, so all the laid-off county workers can go there to surf monster.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a player to be named later Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 If you build it he will come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 If you build it he will come... 298744[/snapback] Since one's already been built, why don't we just go there instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF Bills Fan Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 They put a bunch of money into RWS not too long ago. Given the track record for getting major projects done around WNY, this is laughable. The city and county are in fiscal straights. Where would these $$ come from? Then again, I can't wait to drive across the new Peace bridge and take my seat at this stadium and then maybe go and do some gambling at the downtown casino followed by trip to a the fancy new $750 million outer harbor that is sure to be constructed. Just fill in the potholes and figure out a way to get RWS stadium traffic alleviated and I will be pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 If they build it with a retractable roof then they could play the Super Bowl in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spun Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Lets just say Cablevision's bid for Adelphia today is accepted and the Bass Pro stuff comes through---Downtown Buffalo could actually have some hope with the right incentives and tax abbatements...I know its a pipe dream but I have seen it work other places. 298046[/snapback] Unless there is more to the story that I am unaware of, I thought the Adelphia and Buffalo marriage went the way of the Edsel? How would Cablevision change that? I would like a stadium downtown as I think it could be instrumental in a downtown renaissance. Fiscally, I am skeptical that Buffalo and New York State could pull it off in the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Green Goo Field Plant some grass seed on the former Bethlehem Steel site. Put 20,000 bleacher seats surrounding the field. Make sure it is placed right above the remnants of the Manhattan Project still buried underground. Now THAT would be a home field advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 If they build it with a retractable roof then they could play the Super Bowl in Buffalo. 298873[/snapback] Few folks want to travel to a cold weather winter climate. The tourist trade in January is non-existant in WNY. And ya can't smoke cigarettes anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Few folks want to travel to a cold weather winter climate. The tourist trade in January is non-existant in WNY. 298963[/snapback] Yet they're holding a SB in DetRIOT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Yet they're holding a SB in DetRIOT. 298964[/snapback] Are they? Details please.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Gerzowski Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Are they? Details please.. 298976[/snapback] They have casinos there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Are they? Details please.. 298976[/snapback] Bring the plastic shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 I heard it was a payoff for getting another free stadium. Nice business, the NFL....no overhead. Once again, Barnum was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Bring the plastic shield. 298978[/snapback] Link no work for me, Joe - my pop-up blocker stops access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Link no work for me, Joe - my pop-up blocker stops access. 298985[/snapback] it was a link to a ticket website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted April 7, 2005 Author Share Posted April 7, 2005 Unless there is more to the story that I am unaware of, I thought the Adelphia and Buffalo marriage went the way of the Edsel? How would Cablevision change that? I would like a stadium downtown as I think it could be instrumental in a downtown renaissance. Fiscally, I am skeptical that Buffalo and New York State could pull it off in the foreseeable future. 298906[/snapback] The comcast/time warner bid would leave little room for a regional hq in a place like buffalo. A cablevision bid might open up more possibilities for regional headquarters and offices... Time Warner for example has two regional hubs in NC and employs about 2000 folks in the state--Cablevision would need that type of operation somewhere in the new markets it would obtain if it took over Adelphia's. It would be more than just the truck roll folks probably include their marketing, finance, hr and other business functions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 it was a link to a ticket website. 298989[/snapback] Yep, I gathered that from the URL. But seriously, Bflo would not be a viable SB venue. At the annual meetings, teams crab about not getting one, but after they pich their complaints, they agree that the max amount of shared bucks come from the warm weather places. Nothing for you and me to fight about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 We need to hire 267 more county employees to examine this proposal more closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spun Posted April 7, 2005 Share Posted April 7, 2005 Link no work for me, Joe - my pop-up blocker stops access. 298985[/snapback] I don't know why they can't keep it in the South but then again they have had NBA All Star games in the North. And as for the NHL, errr... Never mind. They also have the ballet in Windsor don't they? http://www.superbowl.com/features/detroit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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