SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Immigration official Ken Cuccinelli: Statue of Liberty poem refers to immigrants from Europe https://www.yahoo.com/news/immigration-official-ken-cuccinelli-statue-025449690.html New Trump rule targets poor and could cut legal immigration in half ... https://www.reuters.com/...immigration.../new-trump-rule-targets-poor-and-could-cut-... 2 days ago - It's really a backdoor way of prohibiting low-income people from immigrating,” said Charles Wheeler of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network ... I'll hang up and listen to open dialog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 See discussion already going on here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: See discussion already going on here. I know of that thread. thanks I'm curious as to who thinks this specific statement is racist or if not racist pointed to a specific nationalities from South and Central America Maybe I should have made it a poll Racist Not Racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I know of that thread. thanks I'm curious as to who thinks this specific statement is racist or if not racist pointed to a specific nationalities from South and Central America Hypothetically, what would be wrong with acknowledging historical realities, if they are historical realities? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Furthermore .... Just Europe ??? Not Russian mail order brides? oh sorry Russia is considered Europe Asians? Indians? Australians? Africa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I know of that thread. thanks I'm curious as to who thinks this specific statement is racist or if not racist pointed to a specific nationalities from South and Central America Maybe I should have made it a poll Racist Not Racist How about... get in line instead of cutting in front of paying customers? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: Hypothetically, what would be wrong with acknowledging historical realities, if they are historical realities? South American dominated by Spain... Spain is European right? Just now, Buffalo_Gal said: How about... get in line instead of cutting in front of paying customers? Come on Gal I expected a clear answer from you. which is it? Racist / bigoted Not Racist / bigoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: South American dominated by Spain... Spain is European right? Two things: 1) Answer my question. 2) Are you implying that people who come from South and Central America are European? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 It's not a new rule, it's a Clinton rule, he signed it, besides, millions of immigrants that came to this country did so without getting a dime of taxpayer money from the government, or health care. Why make exceptions now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: South American dominated by Spain... Spain is European right? Come on Gal I expected a clear answer from you. which is it? Racist / bigoted Not Racist / bigoted WTF are you talking about? I don't think he gives a ***** if they are pink with little purple dots, he wants to end people cutting across our borders illegally. Period. Edited August 14, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, TakeYouToTasker said: Two things: 1) Answer my question. 2) Are you implying that people who come from South and Central America are European? they have a European heritage, they also have an Asian heritage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, bilzfancy said: It's not a new rule, it's a Clinton rule, he signed it, besides, millions of immigrants that came to this country did so without getting a dime of taxpayer money from the government, or health care. Why make exceptions now? Its not a “rule”; it’s a LAW. Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: they have a European heritage, they also have an Asian heritage Answer the questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 minute ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Its not a “rule”; it’s a LAW. Answer the questions. Answer my question Racist or Not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Answer my question Racist or Not Why is everything racist with you lefties? It's the most overused word in the English language 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Hypothetically, what would be wrong with acknowledging historical realities, if they are historical realities? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Answer my question Racist or Not Your question is a nonsense leading question, and is therefore invalid. Stop looking for validation, and start being intellectually honest. You’re taking a snapshot of history and trying to backwards impose a 2019 moral understanding on it. I’ll be happy to engage you if you can bring yourself to step away from that ridiculous proposition, and seek to take an honest walk through historical realities and the relative mores of the days in question. What I won’t do is engage with jackasses trying to play gotcha games through revisionism and virtue signaling. Edited August 14, 2019 by TakeYouToTasker 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 19 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: South American dominated by Spain... Spain is European right? 1) South America was dominated by Portugal. 2) South America is Europe because of some half-assed concept of historical racial transference? You willing to die on that hill? Because I'm more than willing to kill you on it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, DC Tom said: 1) South America was dominated by Portugal. 2) South America is Europe because of some half-assed concept of historical racial transference? You willing to die on that hill? Because I'm more than willing to kill you on it. It’s also Asia. Don’t forget that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, DC Tom said: 1) South America was dominated by Portugal. 2) South America is Europe because of some half-assed concept of historical racial transference? You willing to die on that hill? Because I'm more than willing to kill you on it. LOL no. But the point still remains WE ARE ALL one human race here is a comment some might like We are all pink on the inside How many European immigrants came over DIRT poor? Portugal Spain is there really a difference? that is like saying a Sicilian isn't Italian Edited August 14, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: But the point still remains WE ARE ALL one human race Honest question because I don't know your view: In your opinion, does being born human automatically confer a right to become an American citizen whenever one decides to be one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Honest question because I don't know your view: In your opinion, does being born human automatically confer a right to become an American citizen whenever one decides to be one? His view is generally dark and brown. But that's mostly due to his head placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: Honest question because I don't know your view: In your opinion, does being born human automatically confer a right to become an American citizen whenever one decides to be one? Should it exclude people from the right to become an American citizen? to the other posts Since I seem to be an idiot and have my head up my ass Are Middle Easterners European? Edited August 14, 2019 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: LOL no. But the point still remains WE ARE ALL one human race Or here is a point some might like We are all pink on the inside How many European immigrants came over DIRT poor? Can you speak to the differences/similarities in culture between Europeans in the between the years 1883-1903 and Central and South America’s now? Can you speak to the differences between “poor” relative to wealth norms of the lower class of citizens in immigrants between the years 1883-1903 and today? Can you speak to the differences in government assistance paid for by the tax payer, and subsidized by the debt obligations of their children, between the years or 1883-1903 and today? Thank you in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 46 minutes ago, bilzfancy said: Why is everything racist with you lefties? It's the most overused word in the English language I'm not a lefty I just hate that fat assed Don Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Should it exclude people from the right to become an American citizen? Threre is no right to become an American citizen. That’s his point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: Threre is no right to become an American citizen. That’s his point. I started the thread Answer it of leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Oh boy, another take-my-ball-and-go-home thread. I shoulda known. That is disappointing, to be sure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilzfancy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: LOL no. But the point still remains WE ARE ALL one human race here is a comment some might like We are all pink on the inside How many European immigrants came over DIRT poor? Portugal Spain is there really a difference? that is like saying a Sicilian isn't Italian I'd say most came here were dirt poor, they worked their butts off, learned english, and didn't take a dime from the government. I don't know anyone who's against immigration, just against illegal immigration, and those who sneak in here shouldn't get a penny from taxpayers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted August 14, 2019 Author Share Posted August 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Oh boy, another take-my-ball-and-go-home thread. I shoulda known. That is disappointing, to be sure. disappointing is all the deflection and the blind support for a fraud just because he ran as an R Just now, Tiberius said: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" huddled masses yearning to breathe free some could say those massive caravans fit that. Thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Answer it of leave Or what? You'll delete it? Shun us with another poor display of the English language? 7 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: huddled masses yearning to breathe free Would you please show us where in the United States Code (or even the Code of Federal Regulations) that poem is codified as our national immigration policy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: LOL no. But the point still remains WE ARE ALL one human race Which is not something many people believed in 1886. I believe it was already mentioned that you're trying to retcon history according to modern morals. 29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: How many European immigrants came over DIRT poor? Seriously? Most of 'em. Are you being willfully obtuse today? 29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Portugal Spain is there really a difference? Ask someone from Portugal. 29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: that is like saying a Sicilian isn't Italian Both Italians and Sicilians would disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: LOL no. But the point still remains WE ARE ALL one human race here is a comment some might like We are all pink on the inside How many European immigrants came over DIRT poor? Portugal Spain is there really a difference? that is like saying a Sicilian isn't Italian There was no welfare state or expectation of handouts at the time those immigrants came here. The country is much different now, and its needs are different too. Nothing wrong with being selective, as foreigners don’t have a right to become an American citizen or to live/ work here. There’s nothing racist about this law as we are all one race, right ? To call it racist is to imply that some races can’t be educated or become successful. Edited August 14, 2019 by Boatdrinks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I started the thread Answer it of leave Your devout inability to approach scrutiny of your positions with intellectual honesty is hilariously telling. I think I’ll stay and continue to expose you. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: Immigration official Ken Cuccinelli: Statue of Liberty poem refers to immigrants from Europe https://www.yahoo.com/news/immigration-official-ken-cuccinelli-statue-025449690.html New Trump rule targets poor and could cut legal immigration in half ... https://www.reuters.com/...immigration.../new-trump-rule-targets-poor-and-could-cut-... 2 days ago - It's really a backdoor way of prohibiting low-income people from immigrating,” said Charles Wheeler of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network … I'll hang up and listen to open dialog Poems are not federal law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said: huddled masses yearning to breathe free some could say those massive caravans fit that. Thanks all It’s a ***** poem not the rule of law! When you start basing immigration policy on a poem you’ve lost all credibility. That is if you had any to lose Edited August 14, 2019 by Chef Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) The Left might now call for the plaque to be removed or the whole Statue of Liberty. .....you know they'd prefer the whole thing. Edited August 14, 2019 by I am the egg man 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevbeau Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said: that is like saying a Sicilian isn't Italian Easy there ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: I know of that thread. thanks I'm curious as to who thinks this specific statement is racist or if not racist pointed to a specific nationalities from South and Central America Maybe I should have made it a poll Racist Not Racist Not Racist I think the difference being that Europeans couldn't walk across the border. Edited August 15, 2019 by Gary M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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