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Immigration official Ken Cuccinelli: Statue of Liberty poem refers to immigrants from Europe

https://www.yahoo.com/news/immigration-official-ken-cuccinelli-statue-025449690.html

 

 

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2 days ago - It's really a backdoor way of prohibiting low-income people from immigrating,” said Charles Wheeler of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network ...
 
 
 

I'll hang up and listen to open dialog 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

I know of that thread.  thanks 

 

I'm curious as to who thinks this specific statement is racist or if not racist pointed to a specific nationalities from South and Central America 

 

Maybe I should have made it a poll  

 

Racist 

Not Racist 

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1 minute ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

I know of that thread.  thanks 

 

I'm curious as to who thinks this specific statement is racist or if not racist pointed to a specific nationalities from South and Central America 

 

 

Hypothetically, what would be wrong with acknowledging historical realities, if they are historical realities?

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4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

I know of that thread.  thanks 

 

I'm curious as to who thinks this specific statement is racist or if not racist pointed to a specific nationalities from South and Central America 

 

Maybe I should have made it a poll  

 

Racist 

Not Racist 


How about... get in line instead of cutting in front of paying customers?

 

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Just now, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

Hypothetically, what would be wrong with acknowledging historical realities, if they are historical realities?

 

South American dominated by Spain...

 

Spain is European  right?  

 

Just now, Buffalo_Gal said:


How about... get in line instead of cutting in front of paying customers?

 

Come on Gal   I expected a clear answer from you.  

 

which is it?  

Racist / bigoted

Not Racist / bigoted

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It's not a new rule, it's a Clinton rule, he signed it, besides, millions of immigrants that came to this country did so without getting a dime of taxpayer money from the government, or health care. Why make exceptions now?

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4 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

South American dominated by Spain...

 

Spain is European  right?  

 

Come on Gal   I expected a clear answer from you.  

 

which is it?  

Racist / bigoted

Not Racist / bigoted


WTF are you talking about? I don't think he gives a ***** if they are pink with little purple dots, he wants to end people cutting across our borders illegally. Period.

 

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Just now, bilzfancy said:

It's not a new rule, it's a Clinton rule, he signed it, besides, millions of immigrants that came to this country did so without getting a dime of taxpayer money from the government, or health care. Why make exceptions now?

 

Its not a “rule”; it’s a LAW.

Just now, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

they have a European heritage, they also have an Asian heritage 

 

Answer the questions.

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15 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

Answer my question

 

Racist or Not 

 

 

Your question is a nonsense leading question, and is therefore invalid.

 

Stop looking for validation, and start being intellectually honest.

 

You’re taking a snapshot of history and trying to backwards impose a 2019 moral understanding on it.

 

I’ll be happy to engage you if you can bring yourself to step away from that ridiculous proposition, and seek to take an honest walk through historical realities and the relative mores of the days in question.

 

What I won’t do is engage with jackasses trying to play gotcha games through revisionism and virtue signaling.

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19 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

South American dominated by Spain...

 

Spain is European  right?  

 

 

1) South America was dominated by Portugal.

2) South America is Europe because of some half-assed concept of historical racial transference?  You willing to die on that hill?  Because I'm more than willing to kill you on it.

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Just now, DC Tom said:

 

1) South America was dominated by Portugal.

2) South America is Europe because of some half-assed concept of historical racial transference?  You willing to die on that hill?  Because I'm more than willing to kill you on it.

 

It’s also Asia.  Don’t forget that part.

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25 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

1) South America was dominated by Portugal.

2) South America is Europe because of some half-assed concept of historical racial transference?  You willing to die on that hill?  Because I'm more than willing to kill you on it.

 

LOL no.

 

But the point still remains  

 

WE ARE ALL one human race   

 

here is a comment some might like 

 

We are all pink on the inside 

 

 

How many European immigrants came over DIRT poor? 

Portugal Spain   is there really a difference?   

 

that is like saying a Sicilian isn't Italian  

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2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Honest question because I don't know your view: In your opinion, does being born human automatically confer a right to become an American citizen whenever one decides to be one? 

 

 

His view is generally dark and brown.

 

But that's mostly due to his head placement.

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7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Honest question because I don't know your view: In your opinion, does being born human automatically confer a right to become an American citizen whenever one decides to be one? 

 

 

Should it exclude people from the right to become an American citizen?

 

 

 

to the other posts 

Since I seem to be an idiot and have my head up my ass 

 

 

Are Middle Easterners  European?  

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2 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

LOL no.

 

But the point still remains  

 

WE ARE ALL one human race   

 

Or  here is a point some might like 

 

We are all pink on the inside 

 

 

How many European immigrants came over DIRT poor? 

 

Can you speak to the differences/similarities in culture between Europeans in the between the years 1883-1903 and Central and South America’s now?

 

Can you speak to the differences between “poor” relative to wealth norms of the lower class of citizens in immigrants between the years 1883-1903 and today?

 

Can you speak to the differences in government assistance paid for by the tax payer, and subsidized by the debt obligations of their children, between the years or 1883-1903 and today?

 

Thank you in advance.

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16 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

LOL no.

 

But the point still remains  

 

WE ARE ALL one human race   

 

here is a comment some might like 

 

We are all pink on the inside 

 

 

How many European immigrants came over DIRT poor? 

Portugal Spain   is there really a difference?   

 

that is like saying a Sicilian isn't Italian  

 I'd say most came here were dirt poor, they worked their butts off, learned english, and didn't take a dime from the government. I don't know anyone who's against immigration, just against illegal immigration, and those who sneak in here shouldn't get a penny from taxpayers

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3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

Oh boy, another take-my-ball-and-go-home thread. <_< I shoulda known. :doh:  That is disappointing, to be sure.

 

disappointing is all the deflection  and the blind support for a fraud just because he ran as an R

Just now, Tiberius said:

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

 

huddled masses yearning to breathe free  

 

some could say those massive caravans fit that.  

 

Thanks all 

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15 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Answer it of leave 

 

Or what? You'll delete it? Shun us with another poor display of the English language?

7 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

huddled masses yearning to breathe free 

 

Would you please show us where in the United States Code (or even the Code of Federal Regulations) that poem is codified as our national immigration policy?

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29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

LOL no.

 

But the point still remains  

 

WE ARE ALL one human race   

 

 

Which is not something many people believed in 1886.  I believe it was already mentioned that you're trying to retcon history according to modern morals.

 

29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

How many European immigrants came over DIRT poor? 

 

 

Seriously?  Most of 'em.   Are you being willfully obtuse today?

 

29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

Portugal Spain   is there really a difference?   

 

 

Ask someone from Portugal.

 

29 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

that is like saying a Sicilian isn't Italian  

 

Both Italians and Sicilians would disagree.  

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2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

LOL no.

 

But the point still remains  

 

WE ARE ALL one human race   

 

here is a comment some might like 

 

We are all pink on the inside 

 

 

How many European immigrants came over DIRT poor? 

Portugal Spain   is there really a difference?   

 

that is like saying a Sicilian isn't Italian  

There was no welfare state or expectation of handouts at the time those immigrants came here. The country is much different now, and its needs are different too. Nothing wrong with being selective, as foreigners don’t have a right to become an American citizen or to live/ work here. There’s nothing racist about this law as we are all one race, right ? To call it racist is to imply that some races can’t be educated or become successful. 

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1 hour ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

Immigration official Ken Cuccinelli: Statue of Liberty poem refers to immigrants from Europe

https://www.yahoo.com/news/immigration-official-ken-cuccinelli-statue-025449690.html

 

 

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2 days ago - It's really a backdoor way of prohibiting low-income people from immigrating,” said Charles Wheeler of the Catholic Legal Immigration Network …
 

I'll hang up and listen to open dialog 

 

Poems are not federal law.

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33 minutes ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

huddled masses yearning to breathe free  

 

some could say those massive caravans fit that.  

 

Thanks all 

 

It’s a ***** poem not the rule of law!  When you start basing immigration policy on a poem you’ve lost all credibility. That is if you had any to lose 

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21 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said:

 

I know of that thread.  thanks 

 

I'm curious as to who thinks this specific statement is racist or if not racist pointed to a specific nationalities from South and Central America 

 

Maybe I should have made it a poll  

 

Racist 

Not Racist 

 

Not Racist 

 

I think the difference being that Europeans couldn't walk across the border.

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