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2 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

Weird... 

 

I don't know that it makes a ton of sense really... 

I think it does. He's turned into a pretty damn good receiver late in his career playing on some really bad teams. I think he gives us a bona-fide red zone threat where we've really struggled for a lot of years, and probably could be had very cheaply.

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Stevie is only effective if QB can anticipate the adjustments he will make to get to the spot.  This means only team which should be looking at him is the Phish.

 

  Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds      
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
2008 22 BUF wr 13 11 1 14 10 102 10.2 2 21 0.9 9.3 71.4% 7.3 1 6 0 6 6.0 0.5 0.1 11 9.8 108 2 0 1
2009 23 BUF   13 5 0 3 2 10 5.0 0 5 0.4 2.0 66.7% 3.3               2 5.0 10 0 0 0
2010 24 BUF WR 13 16 13 141 82 1073 13.1 10 45 5.1 67.1 58.2% 7.6               82 13.1 1073 10 1 8
2011 25 BUF WR 13 16 16 134 76 1004 13.2 7 55 4.8 62.8 56.7% 7.5               76 13.2 1004 7 0 8
2012 26 BUF WR 13 16 16 148 79 1046 13.2 6 63 4.9 65.4 53.4% 7.1               79 13.2 1046 6 1 9
2013 27 BUF WR 13 12 12 101 52 597 11.5 3 45 4.3 49.8 51.5% 5.9 1 10 0 10 10.0 0.8 0.1 53 11.5 607 3 1 5
2014 28 SFO wr 13 13 1 50 35 435 12.4 3 32 2.7 33.5 70.0% 8.7               35 12.4 435 3 0 3
2015 29 SDG WR 11 10 8 65 45 497 11.0 3 34 4.5 49.7 69.2% 7.6               45 11.0 497 3 1

 

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3 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

Maybe based on projection, but not on Production. 

 

The most prolific WR in NFL history went for a 3 and a 5. Psychosis aside, Zay isn't worth a quarter of AB. 

What you say is true.  When you factor in his age and the fact that he behaves like a two year old, I understand his cost only being a 3 and a 5.  Every year there are some training camp cuts that are decent players that are picked off waivers by needy teams.  Given that, getting a 4 for a guy like Zay with limited production may be a bit of a stretch.  

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6 hours ago, Limeaid said:

Stevie is only effective if QB can anticipate the adjustments he will make to get to the spot.  This means only team which should be looking at him is the Phish.

 

  Games Receiving Rushing Total Yds      
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Lng R/G Y/G Ctch% Y/Tgt Rush Yds TD Lng Y/A Y/G A/G Touch Y/Tch YScm RRTD Fmb AV
2008 22 BUF wr 13 11 1 14 10 102 10.2 2 21 0.9 9.3 71.4% 7.3 1 6 0 6 6.0 0.5 0.1 11 9.8 108 2 0 1
2009 23 BUF   13 5 0 3 2 10 5.0 0 5 0.4 2.0 66.7% 3.3               2 5.0 10 0 0 0
2010 24 BUF WR 13 16 13 141 82 1073 13.1 10 45 5.1 67.1 58.2% 7.6               82 13.1 1073 10 1 8
2011 25 BUF WR 13 16 16 134 76 1004 13.2 7 55 4.8 62.8 56.7% 7.5               76 13.2 1004 7 0 8
2012 26 BUF WR 13 16 16 148 79 1046 13.2 6 63 4.9 65.4 53.4% 7.1               79 13.2 1046 6 1 9
2013 27 BUF WR 13 12 12 101 52 597 11.5 3 45 4.3 49.8 51.5% 5.9 1 10 0 10 10.0 0.8 0.1 53 11.5 607 3 1 5
2014 28 SFO wr 13 13 1 50 35 435 12.4 3 32 2.7 33.5 70.0% 8.7               35 12.4 435 3 0 3
2015 29 SDG WR 11 10 8 65 45 497 11.0 3 34 4.5 49.7 69.2% 7.6               45 11.0 497 3 1

 

 

I was an NSA codebreaker back in the 90’s so I’ll take a crack at this one:

 

”Starting WR’s. (Stop). Brown (Stop). Beasley. (Stop). Jones. (Stop). Isaac McKittrick. (Stop). Foster. (Stop). All the rest should be traded to Carolina for Chris Hogan. (Stop). Hogan to CB. (Stop). Speed and shifty hips. (Stop). Destroy this message. More directions to follow. “

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44 minutes ago, BringBackFergy said:

 

I was an NSA codebreaker back in the 90’s so I’ll take a crack at this one:

 

”Starting WR’s. (Stop). Brown (Stop). Beasley. (Stop). Jones. (Stop). Isaac McKittrick. (Stop). Foster. (Stop). All the rest should be traded to Carolina for Chris Hogan. (Stop). Hogan to CB. (Stop). Speed and shifty hips. (Stop). Destroy this message. More directions to follow. “

Are you calling from a walkie-talkie right now? If so, that would be epic :D. Over.

 

 

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8 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

Yeah, but so far Zay is a decent, not great WR. He has potential, but people rarely pay for potential. We may get a 3rd for him in a trade.

 

If they can get a 3rd for him they should cut their losses and pull the trigger.

 

No one is trading a 3rd for Zay.

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16 hours ago, whatdrought said:

 

Maybe based on projection, but not on Production. 

 

The most prolific WR in NFL history went for a 3 and a 5. Psychosis aside, Zay isn't worth a quarter of AB. 

 

He also Forced that with his antics. Without them no doubt Pitt gets at least 1st and 3rd like Giants did for OBJ. 

 

Zay is more value to the team than a 4th. 

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17 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Stevie apparently not a believer in RayRay

 

 

Zay can be a good underneath route runner, especially in 4 WR packages where Brown and Foster are taking the tops off the defense and opening up big areas underneath for him and Beasley.

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31 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

 

He also Forced that with his antics. Without them no doubt Pitt gets at least 1st and 3rd like Giants did for OBJ. 

 

Zay is more value to the team than a 4th. 

 

I agree with that. I’m just not sure he’d get more than that on the open market like some have said.

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Just now, whatdrought said:

 

I agree with that. I’m just not sure he’d get more than that on the open market like some have said.

 

Not now. Let a couple more WRs go down this camp season and maybe you find a desperate contending team. 

 

But Zay thru camp looks a lot different than he has like the light is on and seems solid in starting lineup

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