YoloinOhio Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) UGA could be done. Not really that shocking. They had shown issues all year offensively. Their pass game just isn't very consistent. No big play threats. Fromm is erratic, doesn't have a lot of mobility. Edited October 12, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Well, we know choke-artist Georgia won't be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 2 hours ago, njbuff said: Well, we know choke-artist Georgia won't be there. they win the SEC title with one loss and they are there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 6 hours ago, row_33 said: they win the SEC title with one loss and they are there They will choke away whatever chance is afforded them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Wisconsin LSU Clemson Oregon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 7/25/2019 at 9:52 PM, YoloinOhio said: I need to get some insight into some things in fall camp before I can predict my 4... but I think LSU is going to claim one of spots. Am I crazy? Nope On 7/25/2019 at 2:23 PM, Kirby Jackson said: Alabama Clemson Ohio State Oklahoma Ugh , sick of these teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 7/31/2019 at 8:16 PM, row_33 said: Please give us two new teams this year Nothing would make my day more than Wisconsin running people over for the championship, doubtful but would be a blast watching old man football beating the new kids up. On 8/5/2019 at 10:10 AM, YoloinOhio said: I’m a no on UGA. Not going to be in my 4. Kirrrr-by Smart doo doo doo doo doo doo *sing to tune of Baby Shark* LOL awesome !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 11:25 AM, Cynical said: I don't think the committee will put 2 teams from the same conference again unless its pretty clear the 2nd conference team is just plain better than anybody else. I miss the BCS days. Far more simpler. No thanks. I want a playoff schedule just like the other college football division does. Bowl games blow, teams resting for a month coming in rusty as hell and not playing up to their potential. Its going to be awhile but someday the bowls will be gone and playoffs will be fun and exciting just like March madness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I've got Bama, Clemson, Ohio State, and Wisconsin right now. LSU at #5 and Oklahoma at #6. Plenty of season to go as Ohio State and Wisconsin will pry play each other twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 10:10 AM, YoloinOhio said: I’m a no on UGA. Not going to be in my 4. Kirrrr-by Smart doo doo doo doo doo doo *sing to tune of Baby Shark* Still singing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 (edited) In the end I think it will be: 1. LSU 2. Clemson vs. ---------- vs. 4. Ohio St. 3. Oklahoma Edited October 13, 2019 by H2o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, H2o said: In the end I think it will be: 1. LSU 2. Clemson vs. ---------- vs. 4. Ohio St. 3. Oklahoma I would love to see the all- transfer portal CFP: LSU/Burrow vs OSU oklahoma/Hurts vs Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: I would love to see the all- transfer portal CFP: LSU/Burrow vs OSU oklahoma/Hurts vs Bama I think that LSU runs the table and that a 1 loss Alabama gets left out because the other teams go undefeated as well. I like Wisconsin too, but I think Ohio St. just has too much fire power for them to keep up. I don't see anyone in the Big 12 beating OU. They actually have something that resembles a defense this year as well which is a little scary. Clemson is going to breeze through the ACC, but this year they are SURELY beatable and I expect them to lose in the CFP Semi's. In the end I am expecting an LSU vs. OU title game with LSU taking home the hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 20 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: UGA could be done. Not really that shocking. They had shown issues all year offensively. Their pass game just isn't very consistent. No big play threats. Fromm is erratic, doesn't have a lot of mobility. My years of watching college football have taught me that teams with a great offensive or defensive line are very hard to defeat. Georgia is said to have the very best OL in the NCAA. I watched South Carolina play against Bama and they are good. Should Georgia have lost that game? No freaking way. Fromm? He is a very smart game manager. He doesn't have Josh Allen talent but you can win with guys like Fromm in college. I'm not going to kick Georgia while they are down. As you well know, good teams can have bad games. Georgia lost to a team that they should have beaten. Let's see what happens down the road. They might be OK. I don't think that many teams outside the SEC could beat Georgia. Do you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 A very unbrave and obvious.... Clemson Alabama Ohio State Oklahoma (don’t bet the farm or put any emotional risk on LSU beating Bama....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 1:28 PM, njbuff said: This year it's tough. Clemson and Alabama are no gimmies, except maybe Clemson's schedule. Of course. Alabama still has to play at least 2 (perhaps even 3) excellent teams. They can lose, absolutely. Clemson played a good Texas A&M and has a game left with a good (but not at all great) South Carolina team. Oklahoma feeds on week sisters. Do tell, why didn't you include Ohio State in your post? They have some tough games remaining. Do you view Ohio State as 100% unbeatable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 16 hours ago, row_33 said: A very unbrave and obvious.... Clemson Alabama Ohio State Oklahoma (don’t bet the farm or put any emotional risk on LSU beating Bama....) I hope that you are right but a Bama win seems to be far from a given. The biggest edge that the Tide has over LSU is the head coach. Well, the QB and the receivers aren't so bad either but the game is by no means a sure win for Alabama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: I hope that you are right but a Bama win seems to be far from a given. The biggest edge that the Tide has over LSU is the head coach. Well, the QB and the receivers aren't so bad either but the game is by no means a sure win for Alabama. that’s okay for you to be anxious it just seems LSU will always blink first in all sports when it’s crunch time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: My years of watching college football have taught me that teams with a great offensive or defensive line are very hard to defeat. Georgia is said to have the very best OL in the NCAA. I watched South Carolina play against Bama and they are good. Should Georgia have lost that game? No freaking way. Fromm? He is a very smart game manager. He doesn't have Josh Allen talent but you can win with guys like Fromm in college. I'm not going to kick Georgia while they are down. As you well know, good teams can have bad games. Georgia lost to a team that they should have beaten. Let's see what happens down the road. They might be OK. I don't think that many teams outside the SEC could beat Georgia. Do you? Of course they can lose to a team outside of the SEC. Dont even get where that question is coming from. They have a prehistoric offense and don’t trust Fromm to throw it downfield. South Carolina isn’t good. They aren’t ranked. They lost to UNC. They were playing a 3rd string QB. If they were any good UGA wouldn’t have been favored by 4 scores.Technically they could still get in the playoff but the committee seems to rely a lot on the eye test (which I agree should be a factor) so I doubt it unless they win the SEC, which I also doubt. That’s why I said they “could be done” not that they “are done.” I didn’t think they were a playoff team before the season and I still don’t because they just aren’t a “great” team and it’s too hard to get in that top 4. They are a good team, just not a great team. They are still in the top 10. crazier things have happened, for sure. Their biggest issue is their offensive scheme imo. Edited October 14, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, H2o said: I think that LSU runs the table and that a 1 loss Alabama gets left out because the other teams go undefeated as well. I like Wisconsin too, but I think Ohio St. just has too much fire power for them to keep up. I don't see anyone in the Big 12 beating OU. They actually have something that resembles a defense this year as well which is a little scary. Clemson is going to breeze through the ACC, but this year they are SURELY beatable and I expect them to lose in the CFP Semi's. In the end I am expecting an LSU vs. OU title game with LSU taking home the hardware. I picked LSU to win the SEC before the season but their defense is actually concerning me. I thought it would be better than it is right now. Now I’m not sure they do beat Bama. Can’t wait for that game, should be a good one. Possibly high scoring, which is the opposite of how it was with these two teams when they were duking it out for the conference (and national title) a few years ago. Edited October 14, 2019 by YoloinOhio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 I will enjoy the games and not worry too much about rating the top teams and strength/weakness lots of good games coming up!!! it will all pan out in the end, shouldn’t be more than one surprise, if any, in the anointed quartet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: I will enjoy the games and not worry too much about rating the top teams and strength/weakness lots of good games coming up!!! it will all pan out in the end, shouldn’t be more than one surprise, if any, in the anointed quartet Wisconsin looks like they could make a case. The only tough opponent left on their schedule is Ohio state. If they win that game, they have a great chance. Edited October 14, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Wisconsin looks like they could make a case. The only tough opponent left on their schedule is Ohio state. If they win that game, they have a great chance. I expect two games between them. if they split and both end up with one loss, would they send them both to the playoff, provided there weren’t enough no-brainers to stop this? I doubt the Midwest has this much power... one is enough Edited October 14, 2019 by row_33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, row_33 said: I expect two games between them. if they split and both end up with one loss, would they send them both to the playoff, provided there weren’t enough no-brainers to stop this? I doubt the Midwest has this much power... one is enough It would be the Oklahoma treatment of last year. They lost to Texas in the regular season then circled back and beat them in the big 12 CC. That could happen theoretically with osu/wisky. I do not think the big 10 could send 2 teams because that conference doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt looking at their last 2 playoff appearances. Edited October 14, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 Probably true, have to see how other conferences pan out as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) On 10/13/2019 at 11:35 AM, Bill from NYC said: My years of watching college football have taught me that teams with a great offensive or defensive line are very hard to defeat. Georgia is said to have the very best OL in the NCAA. I watched South Carolina play against Bama and they are good. Should Georgia have lost that game? No freaking way. Fromm? He is a very smart game manager. He doesn't have Josh Allen talent but you can win with guys like Fromm in college. I'm not going to kick Georgia while they are down. As you well know, good teams can have bad games. Georgia lost to a team that they should have beaten. Let's see what happens down the road. They might be OK. I don't think that many teams outside the SEC could beat Georgia. Do you? I guess that this is where we may not agree. I think about 10 teams can beat them. 2 of them are in the SEC (Bama and LSU). They are better than UF and Auburn (at least I think that they are). They are not better than Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Wisconsin and may not be better than Penn State. They absolutely, 100% have to run the table to get into the playoff. With a loss like that they aren’t getting in over a 1 loss conference champ. That means Ohio State, Wisconsin, Clemson, Penn State and Oklahoma all have a clearer path at the moment. Edited October 14, 2019 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: I guess that this is where we may not agree. I think about 10 teams can beat them. 2 of them are in the SEC (Bama and LSU). They are better than UF and Auburn (at least I think that they are). They are not better than Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Wisconsin and may not be better than Penn State. They absolutely, 100% have to run the table to get into the playoff. With a loss like that they aren’t getting in over a 1 loss conference champ. That means Ohio State, Wisconsin, Clemson, Penn State and Oklahoma all have a clearer path at the moment. I also think Texas could beat them. They may have 2 losses but they are to two top 5 teams and the Horns are a really good team Edited October 14, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I also think Texas could beat them. They may have 2 losses but they are to two top 5 teams and the Horns are a really good team A decent ND team outplayed them at home. UGA is no better than a decent team this year and has major flaws. They picked the wrong QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: A decent ND team outplayed them at home. UGA is no better than a decent team this year and has major flaws. They picked the wrong QB. The AP ranking ND, a team they beat, 2 spots above them this week was eye opening to how bad of a loss that was in the eyes of the National media Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 14, 2019 Share Posted October 14, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: The AP ranking ND, a team they beat, 2 spots above them this week was eye opening to how bad of a loss that was in the eyes of the National media shows the obscene bias of the media for ND or that many don’t even bother thinking when they vote or both 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 25 minutes ago, row_33 said: shows the obscene bias of the media for ND or that many don’t even bother thinking when they vote or both I thought it was a bit of an overcorrection for UGA being too high to begin with. I would have put UGA at 9 and ND at 10. Edited October 15, 2019 by YoloinOhio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 14 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: I also think Texas could beat them. They may have 2 losses but they are to two top 5 teams and the Horns are a really good team I don't think so at all. In fact, it appears to me that Alabama exposed the Big 12 last year when they clobbered Oklahoma who at the time had a clearly superior QB to Hurts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 15 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: I guess that this is where we may not agree. I think about 10 teams can beat them. 2 of them are in the SEC (Bama and LSU). They are better than UF and Auburn (at least I think that they are). They are not better than Clemson, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Wisconsin and may not be better than Penn State. They absolutely, 100% have to run the table to get into the playoff. With a loss like that they aren’t getting in over a 1 loss conference champ. That means Ohio State, Wisconsin, Clemson, Penn State and Oklahoma all have a clearer path at the moment. You make sense and unlike some of the teams listed above, Georgia has a tough schedule. The hardest teams for me to rate at this point are the Big 10. Who have Wisc. and OSU played to this point that are any good? Michigan State? Please. I am NOT saying that OSU and Wisc. are not fine teams. I am saying that a clearer picture will emerge when they start to play against good teams. I suppose that the same could be said about Alabama, although Texas A&M is much better than most would probably rank them. They have what is probably the toughest schedule in the NCAA and are starting to get hit with injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: You make sense and unlike some of the teams listed above, Georgia has a tough schedule. The hardest teams for me to rate at this point are the Big 10. Who have Wisc. and OSU played to this point that are any good? Michigan State? Please. I am NOT saying that OSU and Wisc. are not fine teams. I am saying that a clearer picture will emerge when they start to play against good teams. I suppose that the same could be said about Alabama, although Texas A&M is much better than most would probably rank them. They have what is probably the toughest schedule in the NCAA and are starting to get hit with injuries. nice of them to send Sparty to Columbus and Madison back to back.... Then Penn State, a cupcake and then at Michigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, row_33 said: nice of them to send Sparty to Columbus and Madison back to back.... Is MSU any good? It would appear not but I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: You make sense and unlike some of the teams listed above, Georgia has a tough schedule. The hardest teams for me to rate at this point are the Big 10. Who have Wisc. and OSU played to this point that are any good? Michigan State? Please. I am NOT saying that OSU and Wisc. are not fine teams. I am saying that a clearer picture will emerge when they start to play against good teams. I suppose that the same could be said about Alabama, although Texas A&M is much better than most would probably rank them. They have what is probably the toughest schedule in the NCAA and are starting to get hit with injuries. Ohio State has to play Wisconsin (most likely twice) who is 6 in the country, Penn State who is 7. They go to Ann Arbor and while UM isn’t great they are 16. If Ohio State runs the table they will have 6 wins against ranked teams and 3 against the top 10. That’s every bit as impressive as UGA. Even one loss would be the same. I know that you are an SEC guy and living in Louisiana I’m surrounded by the SEC bias. With that being said, the conference isn’t elite like it once was. LSU and Bama are elite. UGA, Auburn and UF are good. Those teams are no better though than the second tier of the Big 10. In fact there are 2 second tier big 10 teams currently ranked ahead of them. The bottom of the SEC is a disgrace and that’s the other thing that people down here don’t want to talk about. The only “okay” SEC teams are A&M, South Carolina and Missouri. UT, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Vandy and Miss. St. are bad football teams. So while you play tough games (like every other conference) there are a lot of cupcakes along the way (like every other league). When the SEC was elite that wasn’t the case. The reality is only 1 SEC team is going this year and that’s the conference champ. They all have holes (like every good team does). UGA has to run the table or they’re out. Clemson hasn’t looked good but their path is clear. OU has looked good and has a pretty clear path as well. Ohio State and Wisconsin have looked great but will have to play each other twice. Penn State hasn’t lost yet and has some opportunities (like last week) for a good resume. At the end of the day, it’s going to be: - Alabama/LSU - Clemson - OU - OSU/Wisconsin Edited October 15, 2019 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Is MSU any good? It would appear not but I don't know. probably a 2nd tier team in the Big Ten, they have been crucified by the schedule with 3 tough road games and another top game stacked upon them 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: At the end of the day, it’s going to be: - Alabama/LSU - Clemson - OU - OSU/Wisconsin what will they do for the Big Ten, ASSUMING.... tOSU/Wisky goes to home team tOSU. but Wisky takes the Conf title game at the neutral site? pretend the first game doesn't matter? lean towards tOSU as it has more pull (easily)? 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Ohio State has to play Wisconsin (most likely twice) who is 6 in the country, Penn State who is 7. They go to Ann Arbor and while UM isn’t great they are 16. If Ohio State runs the table they will have 6 wins against ranked teams and 3 against the top 10. That’s every bit as impressive as UGA. Even one loss would be the same. don't worry too much about the fake rankings before anyone has to play anyone in conference games. the rankings are extra fake this year due to the dearth of out-of-conference solid clashes a few years back the Big East (or whatever this conference was at the time) had 4 undefeated teams into November and clogged the top 10 fake rankings because they hadn't played anybody good even into November. Edited October 15, 2019 by row_33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, row_33 said: probably a 2nd tier team in the Big Ten, they have been crucified by the schedule with 3 tough road games and another top game stacked upon them what will they do for the Big Ten, ASSUMING.... tOSU/Wisky goes to home team tOSU. but Wisky takes the Conf title game at the neutral site? pretend the first game doesn't matter? lean towards tOSU as it has more pull (easily)? don't worry too much about the fake rankings before anyone has to play anyone in conference games. the rankings are extra fake this year due to the dearth of out-of-conference solid clashes a few years back the Big East (or whatever this conference was at the time) had 4 undefeated teams into November and clogged the top 10 fake rankings because they hadn't played anybody good even into November. If Wisconsin wins the conference title on a neutral field they go. They would have one loss, at a 1 loss Ohio State. They would have the best loss in the country (with the exception of LSU at Alabama but they couldn’t win the conference title in that scenario). Edited October 15, 2019 by Kirby Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: If Wisconsin wins the conference title on a neutral field they go. They would have one loss, at a 1 loss Ohio State. They would have the best loss in the country (with the exception of LSU at Alabama but they couldn’t win the conference title in that scenario). bring them both? a few years ago a rematch of Michigan and tOSU for the championship game was floated with some seriousness, but maybe that was just Mark May talking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, row_33 said: bring them both? a few years ago a rematch of Michigan and tOSU for the championship game was floated with some seriousness, but maybe that was just Mark May talking I don’t see it. Clemson, OU, and SEC champ should all be 1 loss conference champs (at worst). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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