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48 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

Here we go!

 

 

 

 

New Orleans could've got that deal back in February.......so much for the new GM doing better..........not having to give up Kyle Kuzma makes it a great deal for the Lakers, IMO.

 

Lakers now the very early Vegas favorite to win it all in 2019.

 

 

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A+ for Lakers ...they get a top 5 player in his prime.  None of the other guys going the other way project as an All Star IMO.  

19 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

New Orleans could've got that deal back in February.......so much for the new GM doing better..........not having to give up Kyle Kuzma makes it a great deal for the Lakers, IMO.

 

Lakers now the very early Vegas favorite to win it all in 2019.

 

 

Only thing I can think of is taking one last whack for Tatum. 

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33 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

New Orleans could've got that deal back in February.......so much for the new GM doing better..........not having to give up Kyle Kuzma makes it a great deal for the Lakers, IMO.

 

Lakers now the very early Vegas favorite to win it all in 2019.

 

 

 

Except there’s a good chance doing in February makes the 4 much worse if AD helps a playoff run and never know if the new blood hurts the pels shot at 1.

 

this thread also isn’t including the ability the swap picks with the Lakers in the seasons they don’t have their 1.

 

not a GREAT haul but given his ability to tank this season and walk in a year, and also his ability to refuse to sign elsewhere.... not a bad trade 

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1 minute ago, NoSaint said:

 

Except there’s a good chance doing in February makes the 4 much worse if AD helps a playoff run and never know if the new blood hurts the pels shot at 1.

 

this thread also isn’t including the ability the swap picks with the Lakers in the seasons they don’t have their 1.

 

not a GREAT haul but given his ability to tank this season and walk in a year, and also his ability to refuse to sign elsewhere.... not a bad trade 

I agree. With one year left on his contract, with AD not wanting to stay with NO... 

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29 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

Except there’s a good chance doing in February makes the 4 much worse if AD helps a playoff run and never know if the new blood hurts the pels shot at 1.

 

this thread also isn’t including the ability the swap picks with the Lakers in the seasons they don’t have their 1.

 

not a GREAT haul but given his ability to tank this season and walk in a year, and also his ability to refuse to sign elsewhere.... not a bad trade 

 

 

Yeah good point about the 2019 draft implications of not making the deal earlier.    The Pelicans getting Zion was just a stroke of luck but I think LA getting the #4 pick worked out better for LA too because then they didn't have to give up Kuzma.    Can't see that deal getting done without Kuzma without the Lakers getting that very high #1 pick in the lottery.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said:

Lonzo and Ingram are ????

 

Lakers are happy to get rid of those bums. 

 

 

 

I think the hope in Nola is spin Lonzo and 4 into a solid player, let Ingram be your boom or bust asset short term and then know you have good draft capital. 

 

I could be wrong but id be a little surprised if lonzo ever sets foot in the pels home locker room.

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Just now, NoSaint said:

 

I think the hope in Nola is spin Lonzo and 4 into a solid player, let Ingram be your boom or bust asset short term and then know you have good draft capital. 

 

I could be wrong but id be a little surprised if lonzo ever sets foot in the pels home locker room.

Because of Holliday or crazy dad?  

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10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

And if you figure LeBron is last legs, and the pels weren’t consistently winning with Davis (and just traded all their high picks and young assets) there’s a chance some of those are decent picks down the line 

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11 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

This isn't quite right.  It is:

 

No. 4 in 2019

2021 pick goes to pels if it is top 8.  If not 2022 goes and is unprotected.

Pick swap in 2023

Unprotected first in 2024 with the right to defer to 2025.  If that happens the pick swap gets pushed to 2026.

 

So the Lakers will still have picks to utilize it will be the pels choice which one they get though.  Barring injury I think the draft capital won't be as great as it appears to be now but this has potential to blow up huge in the Lakers face.

 

I'm a Lakers fan and really happy with the deal.  This is being on the opposite end of the Shaq to the heat deal for me.  We gave up some good players and got a superstar.  Make that deall 100 times out a 100 in the nba.

13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Interesting 

 

I don't buy this for one second.  This is some retroactive protect the locker room propaganda.

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2 minutes ago, section122 said:

This isn't quite right.  It is:

 

No. 4 in 2019

2021 pick goes to pels if it is top 8.  If not 2022 goes and is unprotected.

Pick swap in 2023

Unprotected first in 2024 with the right to defer to 2025.  If that happens the pick swap gets pushed to 2026.

 

So the Lakers will still have picks to utilize it will be the pels choice which one they get though.  Barring injury I think the draft capital won't be as great as it appears to be now but this has potential to blow up huge in the Lakers face.

 

I'm a Lakers fan and really happy with the deal.  This is being on the opposite end of the Shaq to the heat deal for me.  We gave up some good players and got a superstar.  Make that deall 100 times out a 100 in the nba.

I don't buy this for one second.  This is some retroactive protect the locker room propaganda.

IDK, he's the only player discussed with legit All Star upside potential.  If I'm Ainge, I can't risk losing him with Kyrie out the door and AD not going to re-up in 1 year.  

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I approve of the Celtics draft picks. That is all. 

 

Brad Stevens reaching deep into the state of Indiana - ok with me. I watch a ton of Big 10 b-ball and Edwards and Langford are ballers. 

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22 minutes ago, CommonCents said:

Ditto. I didn’t watch nearly as many Celts game as I normally do. I’d be energized if they do land Kemba.

I’d like to see Ainge move some of those future 1s for another impact player if possible

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7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

I’d like to see Ainge move some of those future 1s for another impact player if possible

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Gordon

 

You’d be moving the picks for a bigger body? That scares me because the good ones aren’t available and the middle tier guys are overvalued. I’d be excited if they could find a fit though.

3 minutes ago, GETTOTHE50 said:

I don’t have a team, but I would love to see Kawhi team up with Bron and AD, just to see the warriors fans cry 

The Miami experience wasn’t enough for yah? 

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3 hours ago, CommonCents said:

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Gordon

 

You’d be moving the picks for a bigger body? That scares me because the good ones aren’t available and the middle tier guys are overvalued. I’d be excited if they could find a fit though.

The Miami experience wasn’t enough for yah? 

Yes, but not sure who.

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On 6/28/2019 at 6:41 PM, GETTOTHE50 said:

I don’t have a team, but I would love to see Kawhi team up with Bron and AD, just to see the warriors fans cry 

The Warriors lost the championship... There are no more Warriors fans.

 

They probably already took the bandwagon down the coast to LA.

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11 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

As a Nets fan this sucks. Why you'd let a younger player like DLO go for this cancer is unreal. I thought Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson knew what they were doing.

I think a lot of Nets fans feel that way, and as someone who lived through the Kyrie experience not once but twice (living around cavs fans/media and then as a Celtics fan myself) I can’t really blame them. DLO, I think, wants to go back to LA so I wonder if they think he will not re-sign with them anyway when he becomes a UFA  and taking the opportunity to lock up Kyrie while they can. 

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1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think a lot of Nets fans feel that way, and as someone who lived through the Kyrie experience not once but twice (living around cavs fans/media and then as a Celtics fan myself) I can’t really blame them. DLO, I think, wants to go back to LA so I wonder if they think he will not re-sign with them anyway when he becomes a UFA next year and taking the opportunity to lock up Kyrie while they can. 

Nets should have picked up the option and didn't , but in their defense he had a breakoiut year

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4 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Nets should have picked up the option and didn't , but in their defense he had a breakoiut year

I agree. I’ve followed DLO since his Buckeye days of course, I think he was a little raw to go to the NBA, wasn’t considered a 1 and done type entering college, but can’t blame him for leaving. Always thought he would need a couple years. That Lakers situation he went to wasn’t great for him (replacing Kobe). Also not sure he was ready to live in LA. Anyway, the talent was always there but I can see why they weren’t sure about him. 

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

I agree. I’ve followed DLO since his Buckeye days of course, I think he was a little raw to go to the NBA, wasn’t considered a 1 and done type entering college, but can’t blame him for leaving. Always thought he would need a couple years. That Lakers situation he went to wasn’t great for him (replacing Kobe). Also not sure he was ready to live in LA. Anyway, the talent was always there but I can see why they weren’t sure about him. 

He gave a lot of credit for his breakout season to Kenny Atkinson. Kenny really worked with him and told he needed to improve. Dlo then stayed in Brooklyn in the off season and worked with the Nets coachs (to his credit). I wish him the best.

 

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17 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

As a Nets fan this sucks. Why you'd let a younger player like DLO go for this cancer is unreal. I thought Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson knew what they were doing.

As a nets fan you should be pumped.  Kyrie and kd are a pair.  Woj is now reporting kd to the nets will happen tonight.

 

Speaking of woj his credibility has taken a huge hit recently.  Reminiscent of schefter with his pumping up marrone, woj has nothing but good things to say about the clippers and has linked everyone to them.

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1 minute ago, section122 said:

As a nets fan you should be pumped.  Kyrie and kd are a pair.  Woj is now reporting kd to the nets will happen tonight.

 

Speaking of woj his credibility has taken a huge hit recently.  Reminiscent of schefter with his pumping up marrone, woj has nothing but good things to say about the clippers and has linked everyone to them.

Yah they (sheffy and woj) sometimes go over board and get burned.

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21 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

I think a lot of Nets fans feel that way, and as someone who lived through the Kyrie experience not once but twice (living around cavs fans/media and then as a Celtics fan myself) I can’t really blame them. DLO, I think, wants to go back to LA so I wonder if they think he will not re-sign with them anyway when he becomes a UFA  and taking the opportunity to lock up Kyrie while they can.

The Nets prefer Kyrie over DLO. They held up on signing DLO until they knew they had Kyrie under contract. If DLO goes to LA or wherever it is because he was let go by his own team. Also, it was because the Nets signed Irving that they were also able to sign Durant. That wouldn't have been the case if DLO was signed instead of Irving. 

 

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