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Jets fire GM Mike Maccagnan, name Adam Gase interim GM

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I thought I read that McCanagan forced Gase to accept Bowles' assistants who were still under contract 

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1 hour ago, teef said:

dude, you're just trying too hard now.  

 

Trolls gonna troll. If you want to stop hearing stuff from this guy, just put him on ignore. Hard to troll if no one is listening...

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Possible replacements for Mccagnan: Scott Pioli, who stepped down from Asst GM role in Atlanta today, and Dir of Player Personnel Joe Douglas in Philly who worked with Gase for 1 year in Chicago, 

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5 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

...and Dir of Player Personnel Joe Douglas in Philly who worked with Gase for 1 year in Chicago, 

You’ve got Johnson as the owner, ‘At home with the psycho’ Gase, and the NYC/NJ media and fan base.  Might as well name Joe Dirt to the position.

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49 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

Trolls gonna troll. If you want to stop hearing stuff from this guy, just put him on ignore. Hard to troll if no one is listening...

I like Scotty to much to put him on ignore. It just wouldn’t seem right. 

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7 minutes ago, teef said:

I like Scotty to much to put him on ignore. It just wouldn’t seem right. 

It will keep your BP down.

 

I am OK with an alternate take.  What is tiresome is the constant droning, one note negativity.  Let's disagree but have a positive side on occasion.

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4 hours ago, teef said:

dude, you're just trying too hard now.  

Pegulas intentions are there, but to this point he's demonstrated a whole hell of a lot of cluelessness as owner, much like the Johnsons in NY.

 

What is inaccurate about that statement?

 

Look at the mess that are the Buffalo Sabres. 

5 hours ago, ddaryl said:

 

 

Well in the Jets defense it took us about 20 years to formulate that "clear" plan

 

having the right GM Coach combo is as crucial a finding a franchise QB.  It taking the Pegulas multiple tries with the Sabres and the Bills and they are only hoping their latest Sabres change is the one there. At least they finally go it right for the Bills so I have hope of seeing that eventually repeating with the Sabres.. I am hopeful on Krueger, Boterill worries me though...

 

  

I see the Pegulas as learning as they go. I'm very happy with the state of the Bills moving forward..  I can also see what they are striving for with both franchises and although it hasn't been as smooth as we would like I still strongly believe they will get both franchises firing well. When they get the right combos they'll stick with them and stability / Consistency will follow.

 

No worries at all.. Just patience mnixed in with impatient frustrations but not worried as they will get it right and they will lock it in when they do.

Don't disagree.

 

The Sabres are still trying. They have been a tire fire. 

 

If Allen pans out they'll be fine, even if McBeane can't figure it out someone else will when you have a franchise QB.

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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Possible replacements for Mccagnan: Scott Pioli, who stepped down from Asst GM role in Atlanta today, and Dir of Player Personnel Joe Douglas in Philly who worked with Gase for 1 year in Chicago, 

How does Pioli continue to get new jobs? And they say COACHES get recycled.

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This is strange because the Jets have had an excellent offseason. Looks like a power grab.

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10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

From what I've read it was Peyton Manning calling the Jets to endorse Gase is what got him hired by NY in the first place.

 

Not sure I get the love for the guy by Manning as it couldn't have been too difficult to coach the Broncos offense with Manning at QB. Didn't Denver promote Gase after Mike McCoy was hired to be HC of the Chargers in 2013? Gase worked for two seasons as Denver's OC and then followed Denver's HC John Fox after he was fired to Chicago.

 

That 2015 Bears offense was only ranked at 23rd in PF,  21st in yards. So, I don't get the hiring of Gase as HC of the Miami Dolphins either? I almost wonder if Manning made a call to the Dolphins owner too.  Does Adam Gase have some wild-eyed compromising photos of Manning? :w00t:

 

 

 

I just don't get it! The new HC/GM of the NY Jets he went 23 -25 as HC of the Dolphins. While he does now have an intriguing coaching staff at NY with Gregg Williams at DC and ex-Lions HC Jim Caldwell as OC.  I'd be more inclined to hire Williams or Caldwell as HC over Gase.

 

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14 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Pegulas intentions are there, but to this point he's demonstrated a whole hell of a lot of cluelessness as owner, much like the Johnsons in NY.

 

What is inaccurate about that statement?

 

Look at the mess that are the Buffalo Sabres. 

Don't disagree.

 

The Sabres are still trying. They have been a tire fire. 

 

If Allen pans out they'll be fine, even if McBeane can't figure it out someone else will when you have a franchise QB.

 

Dude you are so confused and damaged right now I don’t know what to say. Lately you’ve been contradicting yourself in almost every post. It’s a comedy of errors. The Bills will be fine if Allen pans out, but who maneuvered to get him? The guy you have no confidence in. The Pegulas are “clueless” but what have they really done besides hiring people and attempting to let them do their jobs, all the while significantly upgrading the facilities to protect and attract players? They made a bad decision to trust Brandon when hiring Rex. Really, that’s the only thing Bills-related one could look back upon and attach the word “clueless” to...and they weren’t the only ones fooled. 

 

Why don’t you give the Bills a break for a while and come back to enjoy the season once it has started. Do you really think folks around here want to hear “I’ll believe it when I see it” and “McBeane hasn’t done anything yet” every time they read a post of yours? It would be great to see you contribute to this forum in some sort of meaningful way. 

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5 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

The similarities are their between Pegula and Johnson.

Two indecisive owners who aren't the most knowledgeable and competent sports guys in the world. 

I think Pegula wanted to keep Whaley aboard and then changed his mind after the hire of McDermott. 

Typically franchise hires their GM before their HC. 😅

 

You may think that, but guys with some inside gouge (namely, one John Wawrow) have flat out said about the Rex post-firing presser:

"Before that press conference, Whaley had a future in the (Bills) organization.  After that press conference, he didn't"

 

(paraphrased, I can't find the post, but pretty durn close to what Wawrow actually wrote)

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Jets are still only half the mess that is the Arizona Cardinals

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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

You may think that, but guys with some inside gouge (namely, one John Wawrow) have flat out said about the Rex post-firing presser:

"Before that press conference, Whaley had a future in the (Bills) organization.  After that press conference, he didn't"

remind me what happened?

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5 hours ago, teef said:

dude, you're just trying too hard now.  

 

LMAO.....he makes trolls look friendly...bet he hates his mail man and garbage collector.......

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7 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

remind me what happened?

 

Seriously?  OK.

 

Whaley held a press conference after Rex Ryan's firing where he 1) came across very badly 2) embarrassed the Pegulas and basically threw them under the bus.  He said things that strained credulity - claimed to have not discussed Ryan's firing with the Pegulas (maybe)and hadn't thought about it/didn't ask about it (really?).  He was asked questions about why should we (the media) trust that the next head coaching search was going to be different than the previous 2, and he really didn't have good answers - said stuff like "because I'll be leading it" which didn't give confidence at the time.

 

He was widely excoriated in the media afterwards, and whilst I think they did a bit of the media feeding frenzy thing, a lot of it was deserved.

 

Here's one story I found with a quick search but there are many and worse:

https://buffalonews.com/2017/01/02/10-head-scratching-moments-doug-whaleys-press-conference/

 

There were a number of clues during the subsequent coaching search that it wasn't necessarily going in the direction Whaley might have driven it.

During McDermott's introductory presser, there were also a number of indications that Whaley was probably a lame duck, including McDermott's careful answers to questions about how he felt about working with Doug Whaley (something to the effect of "the Pegulas have made sure I'm comfortable with the organization and I appreciate that")

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26 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Dude you are so confused and damaged right now I don’t know what to say. Lately you’ve been contradicting yourself in almost every post. It’s a comedy of errors. The Bills will be fine if Allen pans out, but who maneuvered to get him? The guy you have no confidence in. The Pegulas are “clueless” but what have they really done besides hiring people and attempting to let them do their jobs, all the while significantly upgrading the facilities to protect and attract players? They made a bad decision to trust Brandon when hiring Rex. Really, that’s the only thing Bills-related one could look back upon and attach the word “clueless” to...and they weren’t the only ones fooled. 

 

Why don’t you give the Bills a break for a while and come back to enjoy the season once it has started. Do you really think folks around here want to hear “I’ll believe it when I see it” and “McBeane hasn’t done anything yet” every time they read a post of yours? It would be great to see you contribute to this forum in some sort of meaningful way. 

You take this ***** way too personal.

 

What makes you think Brandon was the one who pushed them to hire Rex? That was all the Pegulas. 

 

It's a message board and a differing opinion. It's friendly discussion. Don't get so bent out of shape over it. If my posts bother you that much just hit ignore or maybe you should be the one that takes a break. 

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

Jets are still only half the mess that is the Arizona Cardinals

Oh, I don’t know about that...roll both teams downhill in a barrel, a clown show always ends up on top.  🤡😁

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5 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

The similarities are their between Pegula and Johnson.

 

Two indecisive owners who aren't the most knowledgeable and competent sports guys in the world. 

 

I think Pegula wanted to keep Whaley aboard and then changed his mind after the hire of McDermott

 

Typically franchise hires their GM before their HC. 😅

I don't know where you get this stuff from.

 

NY Jets CEO Chris Johnson is the brother of Woody Johnson who owns the NY Jets and he is the bumbling bumkin who couldn't keep his hands off the team's football side. 

 

(NY Jets owner, Woody Johnson is currently the US ambassador to the UK who was nominated by Trump in 2017)

 

From what I see in Buffalo is completely different from the Jets. In that, the Pegula's listened to Russ Brandon/Doug Whaley in the hiring of Rex Ryan and once they realized that they had hired a buffoon, they fired him! After that, they realized that both Whaley, Brandon weren't very good at running an NFL Team. Then went on to fire Whaley and make a move to ensure Russ Brandon was away from the football side of the Org. 

 

From what I've come to understand is that the Pegula's hired Bills GM Brandon Beane after consulting with many, many NFL people. It wasn't just McD's hire. Knowing that I'd have to think the Pegula's quietly did the very same thing before they hired Sean McDermott. These new Bills owners are very "Hands Off" from what I see! Which is such a refreshing change from the old ownership. 

 

Looking over what has transpired since the 2017 NFL season It certainly looks to me like these new Buffalo Bills owners did their homework in hiring McD/Beane! I know I haven't felt this good about this franchise since Marv Levy hired Ex-Colts HC Ted Marchibroda after the 1988 season. 

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