Just Joshin' Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 38 minutes ago, EmotionallyUnstable said: Damn you raiders, I wanted Devin White at 9 for the Bengals If the Raiders had not picked him, I am sure he would not have gotten past TB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 22 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: If the Raiders had not picked him, I am sure he would not have gotten past TB. Or Denver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I had TB in mock drat #1 and selected White. He is off the board but Williams is available. Williams by many is considered the best player in the draft so I am interested in the decision and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Just Joshin' said: I had TB in mock drat #1 and selected White. He is off the board but Williams is available. Williams by many is considered the best player in the draft so I am interested in the decision and why. Because Bowl Cut Davis wanted to be funny and throw a strange twist in so the bills would trade up for Quinnen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 so if bucs dont make there pick do we move onto the giants at 6? or do we make a pick, i know the time frame of 4 hours has to be getting pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: Because Bowl Cut Davis wanted to be funny and throw a strange twist in so the bills would trade up for Quinnen. It’s not entirely implausible that Williams drops to 5. I think 2 QB’s could be gone by now and defensive schemes play a factor. There’s honestly been so little activity and pre-draft ties, I don’t think anyone has a clue about the top 10 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: Because Bowl Cut Davis wanted to be funny and throw a strange twist in so the bills would trade up for Quinnen. It must be nice to have all the answers. I made the choice that I made because it was a good value and because I didn't want Williams. I like Mo Hurst and Bj Hill, two guys that we drafted just last year. I also didn't feel that Sweat nor Burns were worth a top 5 pick as a player, but I felt that White was. More to the point, White gives me a stud in the middle of my Defense that helps all three layers of my D and I can find better value later in the draft to fill other needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 Just now, bkep32 said: so if bucs dont make there pick do we move onto the giants at 6? or do we make a pick, i know the time frame of 4 hours has to be getting pretty close. He’ll get there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, whatdrought said: It must be nice to have all the answers. I made the choice that I made because it was a good value and because I didn't want Williams. I like Mo Hurst and Bj Hill, two guys that we drafted just last year. I also didn't feel that Sweat nor Burns were worth a top 5 pick as a player, but I felt that White was. More to the point, White gives me a stud in the middle of my Defense that helps all three layers of my D and I can find better value later in the draft to fill other needs. I agree that Burns is not a top 10 pick. Round 1 yes, but after pick 20. It feels like I am a minority in this belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 57 minutes ago, whatdrought said: It must be nice to have all the answers. I made the choice that I made because it was a good value and because I didn't want Williams. I like Mo Hurst and Bj Hill, two guys that we drafted just last year. I also didn't feel that Sweat nor Burns were worth a top 5 pick as a player, but I felt that White was. More to the point, White gives me a stud in the middle of my Defense that helps all three layers of my D and I can find better value later in the draft to fill other needs. I don’t have all the answers but I know that Pj Hall would be slapping you upside your head for calling him Bj hill. You must really like him. i love Devin White. He’s a stud for sure. I just don’t see the raiders taking him over Quinnen Williams. Maybe because he’s my #1 guy and can help the raiders inept pass rush and run d, but I knew there would be a curve ball there. Very like the raiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Dibs on next draft pleaseeeeee... As Raiders!!!!! Need to show my GM skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Dibs on next draft pleaseeeeee... As Raiders!!!!! Need to show my GM skills Stayed tuned to this one in case someone flakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, NewEra said: I don’t have all the answers but I know that Pj Hall would be slapping you upside your head for calling him Bj hill. You must really like him. i love Devin White. He’s a stud for sure. I just don’t see the raiders taking him over Quinnen Williams. Maybe because he’s my #1 guy and can help the raiders inept pass rush and run d, but I knew there would be a curve ball there. Very like the raiders lol. Fair enough. Well, they were similar players with similar names in the same draft. I just think that interior does not represent as big a need for us and that White is an equal value to Williams in that regard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Virgil said: Stayed tuned to this one in case someone flakes Looks like we have a runner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 zzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Sorry guys, family time. I PM'd you my answer to your trade Virgil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 ***Trade Alert*** The Buffalo Bills have traded the 1st, 2nd, and 4th pick for the Tampa Bat Bucaneers #5 overall pick. With that pick, the Bills select Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama The Giants are now on the clock @BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 With the 6th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, the New York Giants select Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan. @NewEra and the Jacksonville Jaguars are on the clock. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkep32 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 yikes, like the player but our offensive will need help bad and i think we could use that 2nd and that 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Jags war room: While our defense didn’t play up to expectations last year, it was our offense that kept us out of the playoffs. While we added nick foles, our playmakers are still somewhat lacking. The weakest unit on either side of the ball is the Tight End room. Nick loved working with Zach Ertz and it’s time to address the TE. With the 7th pick, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Tj Hockenson, tight end, Iowa. @Just Joshin'and the lions are on the clock Edited April 15, 2019 by NewEra 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 10 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: With the 6th pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, the New York Giants select Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan. @NewEra and the Jacksonville Jaguars are on the clock. Curious - concerned about lack of production? Why did Michigan not scheme him better or did they know about an issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Please continue making picks. I’m on a plane and my service sucks. I’ll catch up when I land Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 51 minutes ago, Virgil said: ***Trade Alert*** The Buffalo Bills have traded the 1st, 2nd, and 4th pick for the Tampa Bat Bucaneers #5 overall pick. With that pick, the Bills select Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama The Giants are now on the clock @BuffaloHokie13 It is nice to get one of the best guys in the draft but I would be a little disappointed we won’t be able to add anyone to help out Allen. If we don’t develop Allen properly the Williams pick will be a waste. I do hope we trade up on draft day though, hopefully it’s for an additional 2nd or 3rd and not to move up in round 1. Trading up in round 1 for a non QB backfires more often than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 56 minutes ago, Virgil said: ***Trade Alert*** The Buffalo Bills have traded the 1st, 2nd, and 4th pick for the Tampa Bat Bucaneers #5 overall pick. With that pick, the Bills select Quinnen Williams, DT, Alabama The Giants are now on the clock @BuffaloHokie13 So close to Bosa:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 hours ago, NewEra said: Because Bowl Cut Davis wanted to be funny and throw a strange twist in so the bills would trade up for Quinnen. DTs tend to fall out of the top five in recent history. That is because of positional value imo. 3 hours ago, whatdrought said: It must be nice to have all the answers. I made the choice that I made because it was a good value and because I didn't want Williams. I like Mo Hurst and Bj Hill, two guys that we drafted just last year. I also didn't feel that Sweat nor Burns were worth a top 5 pick as a player, but I felt that White was. More to the point, White gives me a stud in the middle of my Defense that helps all three layers of my D and I can find better value later in the draft to fill other needs. You made the right call, White is special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, billspro said: DTs tend to fall out of the top five in recent history. That is because of positional value imo. You made the right call, White is special. Williams was close to being the pick, it really was about the positional need. I really liked Mo Hurst last year and wanted him for the Bills. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 To be honest: Not a fan of the trade up for the Bills. There is just no reason to spend so much to trade up from 9 this year. Premium player is going to be on board at 9, so IMO we just unnecessarily wasted a second and fourth rounder. Love getting Quennin, but I do not think he is so much better than who we can get at 9 that it’s worth it to spend the extra 2nd and 4th to get him. That 2nd is too valuable this year. I also think we most likely won’t trade up from 9 and way more likely we trade up from 40 to get back into the first or up earlier in the 2nd. Just my 2 cents. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 55 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Curious - concerned about lack of production? Why did Michigan not scheme him better or did they know about an issue? We believe they used him out of position, to an extent, but also failed to motivate him overall. We are bringing him in to a rich history of Giants defensive lineman and the mold he is closest to is Jason Pierre Paul. We trusted our scouts then and it paid off, and they see similar traits here. Based on our interactions with this young man, we believe he is ready to step up to that challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Updated. @Just Joshin'is on the clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 8 hours ago, Virgil said: @ndirish1978 is on the clock. The Bills are offering you their 1st, 2nd, and 4th for this pick. Please let us know I would be monumentally pissed if Beane did this... Like...Massively pissed...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, KOKBILLS said: I would be monumentally pissed if Beane did this... Like...Massively pissed...? According to a majority of peers, it’s the right choice. But I agree with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Detroit Lions options for pick #8: QB: Stafford is a good, great at times QB. Not sure he will ever lead them to a SB. Will Matt P want his own QB? Considering Haskins as he is the best QB on the board. DL: Lions can always use more playmakers to pair with Flowers. Options here include Oliver, Wilkens or Sweat. LB: Local college playmaker Bush is available as the second rated LB with White off the board. Borderline high for him but good potential. CB: Slay is strong but they need help on the opposite side. Strong corners make for a better D but no CB is rated high enough for #8. OL: As with many teams, always a need. Williams, Taylor, Ford and Dillard are all still on the board. Interesting that no OL has been picked yet. Value and need intersect with the DL. With the 8th pick in the 2019 draft, the Lions select Montez Sweat, Edge, Mississippi State. The TB Bucs led by GM @ndirish1978 are on the clock. Will a Notre Dame player be the pick - most likely not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, Virgil said: According to a majority of peers, it’s the right choice. They probably loved the Sammy trade too...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Not a fan of the trade......but a great player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Augie said: Not a fan of the trade......but a great player. Is Oliver + 2 picks better than Williams? I think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: Is Oliver + 2 picks better than Williams? I think so. You have to expect that 2nd round pick to start. So if I gave up a starting RT, OLB, TE for the difference between Oliver and him PLUS that? I don’t know that I’m a fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 I will say this, if we get to 9 and the big 3 are gone along with Hock, I definitely was to trade back. We could still get a starting OT and then use the picks to trade back into the top 3 rounds I don’t care how it happens, but I want a starting RT, DT, and TE from this draft. Plus, a developmental DE and RB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) With the 9th pick in the 2019 draft, the Bucs select Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State. The Denver Broncos and their GM @Alphadawg7 are on the clock Edited April 15, 2019 by ndirish1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said: With the 9th pick in the 2019 draft, the Bucs select Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State. The Denver Broncos and their GM @Alphadawg7 are on the clock While I don’t think it’s a bad move, I doubt Arians would sign off on that, leaving you and him at odds. Winston is the main reason Arians went to Tampa. He loves the guy. They MAY move on from him at the end of the year if he doesn’t improve but I expect improvement and a long term deal based on the couch that I’m on Edited April 15, 2019 by NewEra 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Arians is not the GM. He will work with what he's given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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