billsfan1959 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said: No need to be flip or rude, buddy. You are right, there is no need to be rude. My apologies. I need to follow my own advice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I opened the thread out of curiosity. It doesn't bother me to read somebody's thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: When the talent on the team is terrible the special teams will be awful. Crossman was not the issue. Special teams are overvalued anyways. Its no where near a third of the game as people point out. My take on STs is don't give up a blocked kick and cut down on the penalties. Not much else matters. The year crossman excelled was because we kept lesser talented players for teams. Otherwise mostly agree. Good kicker, decent coverage, no penalties. Not gamechanging positive just no negative plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Finally dumping Crossman and picking up Roberts alone will improve our ST dramatically. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulful Soul Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, NoSaint said: If his reply was that of a sociopath I’m scared to ask what yours is One from a person who loathes rude and believes in two things: The Golden Rule, and not turning the other cheek. I won't apologize. . .well, I will. I'm sorry their words and actions made me act in a way that is how I normally act. They really need to work on that.I l I wonder how people back home in the States teach their children manners, civility, and tact, when, from what I see living overseas and what I get online, there isn't any anymore. I'm glad I'm live in a place where there is still shame. If my thread is something you don't like, just ignore it. A simple "yeah, you're right" was all that was warranted, not snide responses. One more thing. . .don't give me "it's just the internet." There is a pathology in behavior like this. They know they are safe behind a computer screen. If they said or acted this way in public, they'd probably get a fist in the teeth. Edited March 23, 2019 by Seoulful Soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 29 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said: Haven't seen someone so butthurt over people not being in awe over an uninspired thread with no real insight (i.e. should just be a post in an existing thread) in a long time. Its his lifes work.? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Seoulful Soul said: The team seems to be hosting and signing things to plug up that hole. Remember, everyone wanted Crossman's head. The ST last year was BRUTAL! You do realize these days special teams is the majority of the 2nd and 3rd tier players on D and O right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulful Soul Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, fansince88 said: You do realize these days special teams is the majority of the 2nd and 3rd tier players on D and O right? Yes I do. But I also know that ST normal has that. And giving up huge returns and stupid flags on ST plays is completely inexcusable. I was on shoutcast here during games. People on this site were screaming for Crossman's head with good reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Seoulful Soul said: No need to be flip or rude, buddy. Commenting how positive signings to help one of our weakest areas is fail. Okay then. More flippant internet responses because people are locked safely behind a computer screen. Yes. . .because that's what a message board is for. Sorry it doesn't rise to your level of brilliance, but I left my Hooked on Phonics and Crayons back in second grade. Care to do the same and respond with maturity closer to your age and not your shoe size? LAMP = YOU. You don’t even in other peoples threads. Looking at your profile, in which I can only see the first page of posts, you haven’t posted in one thread other than the ones you have created. Not to say that you haven’t, but you only have 54 posts. Can’t be too many others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Seoulful Soul said: The team seems to be hosting and signing things to plug up that hole. Remember, everyone wanted Crossman's head. The ST last year was BRUTAL! The STs were brutal because the overall talent on the team was so poor, particularly on the offensive side. STers are rarely starters on either side of the ball. A team that doesn't have a lot of quality starters seldom has good STs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 18 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said: Yes I do. But I also know that ST normal has that. And giving up huge returns and stupid flags on ST plays is completely inexcusable. I was on shoutcast here during games. People on this site were screaming for Crossman's head with good reason. I think we agree. Just thought you may have been missing the fact that we are bringingin ST players when we address the WR and CB and the like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seoulful Soul Posted March 23, 2019 Author Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 minute ago, fansince88 said: I think we agree. Just thought you may have been missing the fact that we are bringingin ST players when we address the WR and CB and the like. Everything weak needs to be addressed. I'm glad ODB isn't neglecting this part of the game in pursuit of higher WR and OL talent. I like bringing in ST proficient people. They can help train technique as well to the talent McD and the staff have pegged solely as ST players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 t 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: The secret reached McBeane... https://amp.democratandchronicle.com/amp/2475588002 Yeah, blame Crossman for not being able to turn crap into gold and fire his ass. McBeane did the same with Castillo the OL coach. McBeane seem to be really good at using scapegoats to disguise their own shortcomings in evaluating personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_with_it Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Cards, Bengals & Bucs sent WR coaches to @UMassFootball pro day yesterday, and Lions, Bills, Jets sent their ST coaches, all to see WR Andy Isabella, who had good workout, caught the ball well and was quick out of breaks. He'll return punts in NFL, too. Stood on combine numbers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, Seoulful Soul said: One from a person who loathes rude and believes in two things: The Golden Rule, and not turning the other cheek. I won't apologize. . .well, I will. I'm sorry their words and actions made me act in a way that is how I normally act. They really need to work on that.I l I wonder how people back home in the States teach their children manners, civility, and tact, when, from what I see living overseas and what I get online, there isn't any anymore. I'm glad I'm live in a place where there is still shame. If my thread is something you don't like, just ignore it. A simple "yeah, you're right" was all that was warranted, not snide responses. One more thing. . .don't give me "it's just the internet." There is a pathology in behavior like this. They know they are safe behind a computer screen. If they said or acted this way in public, they'd probably get a fist in the teeth. Do you have any idea what you’re even talking about? Multiple people responded to you stupid thread by calling it stupid. You respond by saying it’s a message board.......then you say that if we we were having a conversation......and we replied to one of you statements by saying it was stupid, you would probably punch my teeth out. bwhahahahahahaha. Make sure to start posting in everyone else’s threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, SoTier said: t Yeah, blame Crossman for not being able to turn crap into gold and fire his ass. McBeane did the same with Castillo the OL coach. McBeane seem to be really good at using scapegoats to disguise their own shortcomings in evaluating personnel. To be fair, crossman has a pretty long history of turning gold into crap, and crap into crappier crap. That they kept him initially raises far more questions than firing him does. Hopefully some of these early regime issues get fixed and don’t end up recurring like a Chan gailey defensive hire. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, SoTier said: The STs were brutal because the overall talent on the team was so poor, particularly on the offensive side. STers are rarely starters on either side of the ball. A team that doesn't have a lot of quality starters seldom has good STs. This is a good post from you and it is def true If the players playing the special teams would be better they would be on the field for more snaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: This is a good post from you and it is def true If the players playing the special teams would be better they would be on the field for more snaps Its not a great post and is far from true. Guys like boobie and Easley were great teamers that were bad at their actual jobs as examples. Plenty of good players wouldn’t be particularly good special teamers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Just now, NoSaint said: Its not a great post and is far from true. Guys like boobie and Easley were great teamers that were bad at their actual jobs as examples. Plenty of good players wouldn’t be particularly good special teamers. I am talking about overall special teams talent not one or two players.......I do understand what you are saying though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Obviously the Alexander and Roberts signingshelp in that regard, but there is definitely more work to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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