Woodstock 50 at WGI RIP

[Mike in Horseheads]

Pick your poison......     https://www.weny.com/story/40162654/woodstock-50-organizers-release-full-festival-lineup-update

The lineup is as follows:

Day 1 (Friday August 16): The Killers, Miley Cyrus, Santana, The Lumineers, The Raconteurs, Robert Plant, John Fogerty, Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats, Run the Jewels, The Head and the Heart, Maggie Rogers, Michael Franti & Spearhead, Anderson East, Princess Nokia, John Sebastian

Day 2 (Saturday August 17): Dead and Company, Chance the Rapper, Black Keys, Sturgill Simpson, Greta Van Fleet, Portugal. The Man, Leon Bridges, Gary Clark Jr., Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeroes, Dawes, Margo Price, Country Joe and the Fish, Rival Sons, Emily King, Soccer Mommy, Taylor Bennett

Day 3 (Sunday August 18): Jay-Z, Imagine Dragons, Halsey, Cage The Elephant, Brandi Carlile, Janelle Monae, Young The Giant, Courtney Barnett, Common, Vince Staples, Judah and the Lion, Earl Sweatshirt, Boygenius, the Zombies, Canned Heat, Hot Tuna, ***** Riot, Cherry Glazerr

Edited June 11, 2019 by Mike in Horseheads
update

[Mike in Horseheads]

Hotel rooms going fast ....  https://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/lifestyle/entertainment/2019/03/20/woodstock-50-hotels-airbnb/3223111002/

[row_33]

Whatever helps bring the boys home

 

[billsfanmiami(oh)]

Hard pass

[Poleshifter]

They have quite a handful of performers who played at the original Woodstock 50 years ago.

 

I wonder who is in Canned Heat these days.

 

In summer 1969, I had just flunked out of Brockport State. I got my drivers license, quit my job at Twin Fair, and drove my Corvair to the Woodstock Music & Art Fair.

 

Good old days, man.

[Turk71]

1 hour ago, Poleshifter said:

They have quite a handful of performers who played at the original Woodstock 50 years ago.

 

I wonder who is in Canned Heat these days.

 

In summer 1969, I had just flunked out of Brockport State. I got my drivers license, quit my job at Twin Fair, and drove my Corvair to the Woodstock Music & Art Fair.

 

Good old days, man.

I saw Henry Vestine play many times for some years in the early and mid 90s Eugene. Very Cool.

  The old Twin Fair in SB off Seneca?

  

Edited March 25, 2019 by Turk71

[Poleshifter]

1 hour ago, Turk71 said:

I saw Henry Vestine play many times for some years in the early and mid 90s Eugene. Very Cool.

  The old Twin Fair in SB off Seneca?

  

Twin Fair on Elmwood Ave in N Buffalo.

 

Canned Heat played at Gilligan's way back when IIRC.

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

13 hours ago, Poleshifter said:

They have quite a handful of performers who played at the original Woodstock 50 years ago.

 

I wonder who is in Canned Heat these days.

 

In summer 1969, I had just flunked out of Brockport State. I got my drivers license, quit my job at Twin Fair, and drove my Corvair to the Woodstock Music & Art Fair.

 

Good old days, man.

How close did you get to the actual stage? How was the sound from whereever you were?

[T&C]

On 3/19/2019 at 7:35 PM, Mike in Horseheads said:

Pick your poison......     https://www.weny.com/story/40162654/woodstock-50-organizers-release-full-festival-lineup-update

The lineup is as follows:

Day 1 (Friday August 16): The Killers, Miley Cyrus, Santana, The Lumineers, The Raconteurs, Robert Plant, John Fogerty, Nathaniel Rateliff and the Night Sweats, Run the Jewels, The Head and the Heart, Maggie Rogers, Michael Franti & Spearhead, Anderson East, Princess Nokia, John Sebastian

Day 2 (Saturday August 17): Dead and Company, Chance the Rapper, Black Keys, Sturgill Simpson, Greta Van Fleet, Portugal. The Man, Leon Bridges, Gary Clark Jr., Edward Sharpe & The Magnetic Zeroes, Dawes, Margo Price, Country Joe and the Fish, Rival Sons, Emily King, Soccer Mommy, Taylor Bennett

Day 3 (Sunday August 18): Jay-Z, Imagine Dragons, Halsey, Cage The Elephant, Brandi Carlile, Janelle Monae, Young The Giant, Courtney Barnett, Common, Vince Staples, Judah and the Lion, Earl Sweatshirt, Boygenius, the Zombies, Canned Heat, Hot Tuna, ***** Riot, Cherry Glazerr

I've never even heard of most of these groups. Still, Hot Tuna... preferably electric, is worth the price of day 3. Who knows, Grace might pop in unannounced.

 

Country Joe still looks pretty good for his age, he might be the ringer for day 2.

[T&C]

15 hours ago, Poleshifter said:

They have quite a handful of performers who played at the original Woodstock 50 years ago.

 

I wonder who is in Canned Heat these days.

 

In summer 1969, I had just flunked out of Brockport State. I got my drivers license, quit my job at Twin Fair, and drove my Corvair to the Woodstock Music & Art Fair.

 

Good old days, man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canned_Heat_members

 

Surprised to see Harvey Mandel's name in the current members... they could put on a pretty good show.

[Poleshifter]

11 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

How close did you get to the actual stage? How was the sound from whereever you were?

Maybe a third of the way towards the front. There were no seats (unless you brought chairs), mostly blankets pressed into the mud after the rain.

 

Sound was good, the speakers towers were huge.

9 hours ago, T&C said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canned_Heat_members

 

Surprised to see Harvey Mandel's name in the current members... they could put on a pretty good show.

Fito and The Mole are original (1969 at least) members - on drums and bass, respectively.

 

[row_33]

19 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

How close did you get to the actual stage? How was the sound from whereever you were?

 

glad you got my little joke earlier there, i guess times do change....

 

 

[The Real Buffalo Joe]

8 hours ago, Poleshifter said:

Maybe a third of the way towards the front. There were no seats (unless you brought chairs), mostly blankets pressed into the mud after the rain.

 

Sound was good, the speakers towers were huge.

Fito and The Mole are original (1969 at least) members - on drums and bass, respectively.

 

Only other question I have is whether or not you took the purple acid.

[T&C]

5 hours ago, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Only other question I have is whether or not you took the purple acid.

Purple good... brown bad.

[Just Jack]

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Lang, who co-founded the original Woodstock festival and has organized all its anniversary concerts, spoke exclusively with syracuse.com | The Post-Standard about how the Woodstock 50 lineup was chosen and how his team is working to prevent Watkins Glen from repeating the disasters of Woodstock ’99.

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/entertainment/2019/03/exclusive-how-woodstock-50-lineup-was-chosen-and-how-watkins-glen-wont-repeat-99-disaster.html

[Chef Jim]

There are a few of these threads going but I'll plop this here.  I'm not a big festival guy but for you NY people I'd do this one over Woodstock 50 any day.

 

https://mountainjam.com/

 

And for my fellow Californians

 

http://highsierramusic.com/

 

And this is the only festival I'll go to.  It's a 10 minute Uber from my house and not crazy big.  I'm looking forward to Allman/Betts

 

https://dohenybluesfestival.com/lineup/

Edited March 27, 2019 by Chef Jim

[section122]

14 hours ago, Just Jack said:

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/entertainment/2019/03/exclusive-how-woodstock-50-lineup-was-chosen-and-how-watkins-glen-wont-repeat-99-disaster.html

 

Man ***** this guy.  I was at 99 and it was a mess because it was a clear cash grab.  They didn't have enough port a pottys for everyone, water was $4.00 a bottle, all food was overpriced, there were very few atms to get enough cash to eat, etc.  The fans of Insane Clown Posse and RHCP handing out candles had nothing to do with it.  Musically the festival was awesome.  Organizationally it was an absolute mess.  Saturday was the heaviest night yet the trouble was Sunday night.  People were pissed after a long weekend of being treated like garbage.  The "riots" are overblown as there weren't huge fights too.  Absolutely not forgiving sexual assault (those dirtbags have no excuse) however more security could have helped prevent it.  

 

This lineup is more pop than rock and disappointing to me.  I'm too old to do 3 days of partying anymore but am close enough to drive to Watkins Glen for a day.  I don't see a day worth my money.  If they wanted to have "music for everyone" they should have separated the days.  Something like Friday the bands from the original to kick it off, Saturday the big bands/acts, Sunday the up and comers.  Past/present/future or separate out by type of music.  Miley Cyrus on the same day as John Fogerty and Santana?  How big of a cross section of fans like these acts together?

 

Bleh.  This bothers me more than it should lol.

[Mike in Horseheads]

I was in Watkins Glen for a unrelated meeting today but concert came up. Supposedly tickets are going on sale on 4/22/19. Tickets are 3 day tickets only as in no single day tickets. Once your in the track at WGI you can't leave and get back in. I guess the county and Village are dam determined not to have a reenactment of Summer Jam.

[Just Jack]

3 hours ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Once your in the track at WGI you can't leave and get back in. I guess the county and Village are dam determined not to have a reenactment of Summer Jam.

 

I heard it was if you're camping on site, then you could not leave/re-enter. In Rome, anyone could leave and re-enter. 

[Mike in Horseheads]

2 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

 

I heard it was if you're camping on site, then you could not leave/re-enter. In Rome, anyone could leave and re-enter. 

You might be right. This was people from Watkins yapping. The one thing I heard clear was it was a 3 day ticket, no one day tickets

[Poleshifter]

On 3/26/2019 at 7:38 AM, The Real Buffalo Joe said:

Only other question I have is whether or not you took the purple acid.

No. Neither purple nor brown.

 

That would be the worst kind of environment for doing acid - hanging out with a few hundred thousand people...

 

[The Senator]

On 3/25/2019 at 1:50 AM, Poleshifter said:

They have quite a handful of performers who played at the original Woodstock 50 years ago.

 

I wonder who is in Canned Heat these days.

 

In summer 1969, I had just flunked out of Brockport State. I got my drivers license, quit my job at Twin Fair, and drove my Corvair to the Woodstock Music & Art Fair.

 

Good old days, man.

 

You had a Corvair?  My next door neighbor had one.  You are either older than me, or collect old cars.

 

Isn’t that the vehicle that inspired Ralph Nader’s anti-GM book, “Death at Any Speed”?

.

 

[Gugny]

15 hours ago, The Senator said:

 

You had a Corvair?  My next door neighbor had one.  You are either older than me, or collect old cars.

 

Isn’t that the vehicle that inspired Ralph Nader’s anti-GM book, “Death at Any Speed”?

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My first car was a 1961 Corvair Monza 900.  White on red, automatic.  That was around 1990-1992.  I still have yet to love a car like that one.  Too young/stupid to appreciate it.

[Poleshifter]

On 4/17/2019 at 3:18 PM, The Senator said:

 

You had a Corvair?  My next door neighbor had one.  You are either older than me, or collect old cars.

 

Isn’t that the vehicle that inspired Ralph Nader’s anti-GM book, “Death at Any Speed”?

.

 

Yes, that was Ralph Nader's favorite death car. It was rear engine, so the front end was light.

 

Air-cooled engine (no radiator) so it took a L-O-N-G time to warm up on those winter mornings!

 

On 4/18/2019 at 7:10 AM, Gugny said:

 

My first car was a 1961 Corvair Monza 900.  White on red, automatic.  That was around 1990-1992.  I still have yet to love a car like that one.  Too young/stupid to appreciate it.

Mine was a maroon 1964 Monza, with Tiger Paw tires, I might add. They were brown-wall tires after parking in a cow pasture for a few rainy days at Woodstock.

 

Mine was automatic, too. They had that weird little lever under the dash, not a shifter on the column or floor.

 

[Just Jack]

Cancelled

 

https://www.localsyr.com/news/state-news/report-woodstock-50-music-festival-cancelled/1963609348

[section122]

14 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

Cancelled

 

https://www.localsyr.com/news/state-news/report-woodstock-50-music-festival-cancelled/1963609348

 

Watkins Glen with another not so great look.  After Phish last year and not being able to get DOH to sign off on permits this year I don't think they can be an option going forward for large festivals...

 

That said, good.  This concert was another money grab like 99 was imo.

[coloradobillsfan]

the term "Woodstock Brand name" makes my skin crawl

[Just Jack]

Phish las year was unavoidable due to weather, not the band itself. 

10 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

Watkins Glen with another not so great look.  After Phish last year and not being able to get DOH to sign off on permits this year I don't think they can be an option going forward for large festivals...

 

That said, good.  This concert was another money grab like 99 was imo.

 

[Mike in Horseheads]

27 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

Watkins Glen with another not so great look.  After Phish last year and not being able to get DOH to sign off on permits this year I don't think they can be an option going forward for large festivals...

 

That said, good.  This concert was another money grab like 99 was imo.

Like Jack said last year was the weather, you want to blame someone for this year thank NYS. They kept reducing how big the crowd could be last I heard it was 75k.  Anyway heres the local story....   https://www.weny.com/story/40385175/report-woodstock-50-festival-has-been-canceled

[section122]

19 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

Phish las year was unavoidable due to weather, not the band itself. 

 

 

That is what I am talking about. 

 

If I understand it correctly there was a lack of clean water for Phish and there was no solution if that problem arose again this year which caused the permit denials.  So Watkins Glen had an issue last year that they failed to correct in time for this concert.

 

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2019/04/26/woodstock-50-delay-statement/

 

Organizers, notably Lang, failed to explain why they pushed back sales for the upcoming event.  A separate report revealed that the event had failed to obtain the required mass-gathering permit from the New York Statement Department of Health (DOH).  Without a formal permit, or even a conditional permit, organizers can’t sell tickets.

In a press release, promoters dismissed the delay.

“Woodstock 50 has delayed its on-sale while we refine logistical plans for what we anticipate will be an amazing Festival in August at Watkins Glen, New York.”

In a third (and possibly final) red flag, promoters reportedly filed for the necessary permit much later “than [organizers] would have preferred.”

7 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

Like Jack said last year was the weather, you want to blame someone for this year thank NYS. They kept reducing how big the crowd could be last I heard it was 75k.  Anyway heres the local story....   https://www.weny.com/story/40385175/report-woodstock-50-festival-has-been-canceled

 

Check out my link.  They were late with permits and had no answer for the issue that arose with Phish due to the weather.  

 

I'm probably just still mad about the train wreck that 99 was and the clear cash grab this is.  Don't mind me lol.

[Just Jack]

54 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

That is what I am talking about. 

 

If I understand it correctly there was a lack of clean water for Phish and there was no solution if that problem arose again this year which caused the permit denials.  So Watkins Glen had an issue last year that they failed to correct in time for this concert.

 

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2019/04/26/woodstock-50-delay-statement/

 

Organizers, notably Lang, failed to explain why they pushed back sales for the upcoming event.  A separate report revealed that the event had failed to obtain the required mass-gathering permit from the New York Statement Department of Health (DOH).  Without a formal permit, or even a conditional permit, organizers can’t sell tickets.

In a press release, promoters dismissed the delay.

“Woodstock 50 has delayed its on-sale while we refine logistical plans for what we anticipate will be an amazing Festival in August at Watkins Glen, New York.”

In a third (and possibly final) red flag, promoters reportedly filed for the necessary permit much later “than [organizers] would have preferred.”

 

Check out my link.  They were late with permits and had no answer for the issue that arose with Phish due to the weather.  

 

I'm probably just still mad about the train wreck that 99 was and the clear cash grab this is.  Don't mind me lol.

 

Phish had torrential rain in the few days before the festival, I was working in the area then, and several main roads around Watkins (the town and the track) were closed due to flooding and needing repairs. Your link mentions none of this. The issue with clean water was because water sources were all turned up with mud from the run off. Same thing happens wherever there is torrential rains and flooding, why they will announce not to drink the water or boil it first. 

[Mike in Horseheads]

18 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

 

Phish had torrential rain in the few days before the festival, I was working in the area then, and several main roads around Watkins (the town and the track) were closed due to flooding and needing repairs. Your link mentions none of this. The issue with clean water was because water sources were all turned up with mud from the run off. Same thing happens wherever there is torrential rains and flooding, why they will announce not to drink the water or boil it first. 

We had  around 12 inches of rain that month which was more than Agnes in '72. My sump pump that seldom runs in the summer ran constantly.

...Anyway I believe the water issue plan was approved by the county so I don't know what NYS was holding up the permit for. Que one of those NYS is open for business commercials LOL.

[Gugny]

So glad this craptastic event isn't happening.  Who would be dumb enough to pony up $450 to see that garbage they had lined up?  Have you stupid hip hop festival all you want ... just don't call it Woodstock.

[Mike in Horseheads]

Presser from Schuyler County....   https://www.mytwintiers.com/news/local-news/woodstock-50-presser-full_20190429194140/1964012647

 

[T&C]

Willing to bet that Bethel now sees more people show up than they ever imagined... kind of like the original.

[Gugny]

1 hour ago, T&C said:

Willing to bet that Bethel now sees more people show up than they ever imagined... kind of like the original.

 

And Jay Z won't be there.

[T&C]

21 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

And Jay Z won't be there.

Who?

[Just Jack]

Cancelled? Not so fast says Michael Lang...

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/concerts/2019/04/woodstock-50-not-canceled-organizer-insists-its-going-to-be-a-blast.html

 

Quote

 

“We are committed to ensuring that the 50th Anniversary of Woodstock is marked with a festival deserving of its iconic name and place in American history and culture," Lang said in a statement via Woodstock Ventures. "Although our financial partner is withdrawing, we will of course be continuing with the planning of the festival and intend to bring on new partners. We would like to acknowledge the State of New York and Schuyler County for all of their hard work and support.

"The bottom line is, there is going to be a Woodstock 50th Anniversary Festival, as there must be, and it’s going to be a blast.”

 

 

[Mike in Horseheads]

7 minutes ago, Just Jack said:

Cancelled? Not so fast says Michael Lang...

 

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/concerts/2019/04/woodstock-50-not-canceled-organizer-insists-its-going-to-be-a-blast.html

 

 

I saw that on our morning news, guess I'll edit the topic again smh

[Just Jack]

1 hour ago, Mike in Horseheads said:

I saw that on our morning news, guess I'll edit the topic again smh

 

He has three months to pull this together.  Is it possible? Maybe if all the artists have been paid up front as reported. After that it’s all permits. And we know NY is not known for speeding through permits unless there’s some cash slipped under the table.