KD in CA Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 7 hours ago, bbb said: Could Trump be a winner in all this, since everybody is so pissed off. You know this Jussie idiot will come up if Cammie starts working her way through the crowd next spring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 20 hours ago, bbb said: Could Trump be a winner in all this, since everybody is so pissed off. According to Rahm this whole fiasco is Trumps fault anyway. https://www.thewrap.com/chicago-mayor-rahm-emanuel-blames-trump-toxic-environment-for-jussie-smollett-hoax-video/ Edited March 29, 2019 by RaoulDuke79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 43 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: According to Rahm this whole fiasco is Trumps fault anyway. https://www.thewrap.com/chicago-mayor-rahm-emanuel-blames-trump-toxic-environment-for-jussie-smollett-hoax-video/ Do you want to know what else is Trump's fault? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdutton Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 I shared this in the PPP thread too... http://www.ilpba.org/announcements/7249825 Quote The Illinois Prosecutors Bar Association serves as the voice for nearly 1,000 front line prosecutors across the State who work tirelessly towards the pursuit of justice. The events of the past few days regarding the Cook County State’s Attorney’s handling of the Jussie Smollett case is not condoned by the IPBA, nor is it representative of the honest ethical work prosecutors provide to the citizens of the State of Illinois on a daily basis. The manner in which this case was dismissed was abnormal and unfamiliar to those who practice law in criminal courthouses across the State. Prosecutors, defense attorneys, and judges alike do not recognize the arrangement Mr. Smollett received. Even more problematic, the State’s Attorney and her representatives have fundamentally misled the public on the law and circumstances surrounding the dismissal. The public has the right to know the truth, and we set out to do that here. Much more in the link. SA got slammed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, bdutton said: I shared this in the PPP thread too... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Chris Rock, despite being told not to talk about him, took Smollett to task as the NAACP awards Saturday night. Good for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 3/27/2019 at 10:01 AM, apuszczalowski said: Theres a town around here that's thinking of playing Manilow music in the downtown area to stop some of the issues they have been having with people causing trouble. Its said to work that playing classical or other forms of music keep the 'riff raff' away and less issues happen....... What did people expect in this case? Even if it went to court and tied up the court system, along with a media circus, he most likely would have walked away with some fines and community service anyway. The only reason people want more is because the media blew it up because it was a somewhat 'celebrity' who did it so the media continued to run with it. Had this been a nobody claiming this happened to them, you would have heard nothing about it after the first day outside of local news stations. Nobody would care if the person was ever charged or faced any punishment. Theres now a pretty good chance he wont get another Hollywood acting gig after this as no one will want to be associated with him, and in about another year we wont hear about it anymore. Your post is well stated and reasoned. However, I disagree with it. This was a hoax. No doubt about it. But let's put this incident in context. It was done at a time when police and community relations were at a tinder box level. It was done at a time where the inner city murder rate was escalating and seemed to be uncontrollable. Much of it due to retaliatory gang violence. The local police are struggling with a lack of the credibility from a large segment of the communitybut also national credibility. What Smallette did with his staged event is created an incident with a dangerous volatility that might not have been easily contained. There is a big difference between lighting a match in the playground and lighting a match near a gas line. I agree with your assessment that this case would have become a circus if it went to trial with the final outcome maybe resulting in a insignificant sentence. So what! Some cases are easy to bring to trial without much commotion and simple cases. On the other hand its not surprising that a high profile case can turn into a very rambunctious and loud event. Ask Martha Stewart how her trivial charge turned into a world event? Inconvenience in adjudicating shouldn't be the standard as to why someone is not tried. Although this case turned out to be a circus it should have gone to trial if the defendant wasn't willing to plead guilty and acknowledge the facts of this case. Whether the outcome would have been a conviction, non-conviction or hung jury at least the law would have been equally and rightfully applied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 I just don't get why someone would call in a favor to save this guy, if that is in fact what happened. Why would you waste any capital to save such a small fish? It would be like me calling in a favor with one of the mods to save that kid who used to post reviews of the Smurf movies from a ban. A complete and utter waste of a favor. I think I know exactly where responses to this question will go, but it should be interesting to hear them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, shrader said: I just don't get why someone would call in a favor to save this guy, if that is in fact what happened. Why would you waste any capital to save such a small fish? It would be like me calling in a favor with one of the mods to save that kid who used to post reviews of the Smurf movies from a ban. A complete and utter waste of a favor. I think I know exactly where responses to this question will go, but it should be interesting to hear them. I wondered the same thing. There seems to be evidence that this was done, but why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I wondered the same thing. There seems to be evidence that this was done, but why? Compromising photos/info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Just now, Doc said: Compromising photos/info? That is as good a guess as any. I wonder if we will ever know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 5 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I wondered the same thing. There seems to be evidence that this was done, but why? The alleged incident happened at the same time K. Harris and C.Booker were promoting their anti-lynching bill. Coincidence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 1, 2019 Share Posted April 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Uncle Joe said: The alleged incident happened at the same time K. Harris and C.Booker were promoting their anti-lynching bill. Coincidence? And not long after that MAGA hat-wearing kid went face-to-face with that native American dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 Too funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 20 hours ago, Uncle Joe said: The alleged incident happened at the same time K. Harris and C.Booker were promoting their anti-lynching bill. Coincidence? there is no law against lynching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 2, 2019 Share Posted April 2, 2019 3 hours ago, row_33 said: there is no law against lynching? Nope. Perfectly legal. Good thing Booker and Harris are on the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 10 hours ago, row_33 said: there is no law against lynching? Yes when they were told that lynching falls under murder or attempted murder their response was "wait......what??" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, row_33 said: there is no law against lynching? Yes. (Or was for a long time until just last year). "Subsequent bills followed but the United States Congress never outlawed lynching due to powerful opposition from Southern Senators. It was not until 2018 that the Senate would pass (unanimously) anti-lynching legislation, the Justice for Victims of Lynching Act." https://www.ajc.com/news/local/georgia-lynch-mobs-devised-flimsy-reasons-for-taking-lives/DPNqpcG72DpJFUV6FLQnlI/ "...The perception is that a lynching always involved a certain means of death — whether by hanging or shooting or burning. “It’s not the method in which a person is killed, it’s the context in which they are killed,” said Hill, a professor of African and African-American studies at the University of Oklahoma. “That context is when the person is summarily, lethally and brutally punished for an alleged crime and denied due process of law. That cocktail of things is what we call a lynching. It’s less about being hung, shot or dragged to death. ...” Edited April 3, 2019 by ExiledInIllinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 9 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: <snip> That cocktail of things is what we call a lynching. It’s less about being hung, shot or dragged to death. ...” Makes me wonder now where Molotov fits in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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