shrader Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 The fun thing about those proposals is that they completely ignore a pesky little thing called the salary cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 Anyone have any interest in a separate NHL playoff thread? Or should we just discuss it here? Im kind of thinking just discuss it here, as we seem to have a somewhat small group of hockey fans that post here. Anyone watching the Columbus vs Tampa game? I thought Columbus would get killed. Tampa came out real strong in the 1st and just swarmed Columbus. Bobrovsky looked like his usually shaky playoff self and Tampa was up 3-1. Columbus is now up 4-3 with 3minutes left! Bobrovsky has looked like a different goalie since that awful 1st and CBus has really turned it up. We need at at least one of Columbus, Colorado, Vegas or Dallas to make it to the conference finals (along with the Blues losing before that) so the STL pick gets pushed down to #19 and goes to Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 I think this is at least the 3rd or 4th different day/time we’ve interviewed McLellan, if you go by twitter... lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 22 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: yea that ain't happenin..the Great Ones never get traded The team you are talking about has done it before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 22 hours ago, Taro T said: Not a chancein Hades the Eulers would settle for that. Eichel heads to Alberta in any trade they'd make with the Sabres. As to your question: Botterill answers before it rings. The Sabres' trade there would result in edmonton getting burned to the ground a little less than the other 2 proposals. Yes. Eichel for McDavid would be the structure with some more going edmonton's way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 I’d make that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 7:56 PM, ChevyVanMiller said: This column speculates on the possibility of Connor McDavid being traded and three teams that could pull off a deal for him. One is the Sabres. Take a look at what they have the Sabres offering and tell me how quickly you think Jason Botterill would jump through the telephone to make this deal happen. https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2019/04/if-connor-mcdavid-gets-traded-here-are.html?m=1 Make it so, number one. 9 hours ago, May Day 10 said: The Sabres' trade there would result in edmonton getting burned to the ground a little less than the other 2 proposals. Yes. Eichel for McDavid would be the structure with some more going edmonton's way. I'd do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 7:56 PM, ChevyVanMiller said: This column speculates on the possibility of Connor McDavid being traded and three teams that could pull off a deal for him. One is the Sabres. Take a look at what they have the Sabres offering and tell me how quickly you think Jason Botterill would jump through the telephone to make this deal happen. https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2019/04/if-connor-mcdavid-gets-traded-here-are.html?m=1 hope it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) Heard he’s interested more in a front office role than coaching, but this is a guy I’d love to have behind the bench. Botterill actually tried to interview him the first time around, but he wasn’t ready to leave Southampton yet. Seems to fit what we need. Super high energy. Super positive. Excellent motivator (he’s actually also a motivational speaker and even wrote a best selling self help book). He’s a believer in implementing analytics. Adapts his system to his team. Consistently gets the most out of lesser talented teams/players. Mike Babcock has even used him as a special advisor... We’d definitely be a very hard working team under Krueger, and I feel like he may be able to help fix the fragile mindset of this team. Here an an article on him. I can’t find the article i’m looking for. If I find it, I’ll post it here. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nhl/2016/09/28/ralph-krueger-world-cup-southampton-football-club/91240876/ love this quote on why after a lifetime in hockey he took a job turning around a soccer/football club - Quote The reason for that is my hunger to grow as a leader,” he said. “After 25 years of head coaching it was another level [but] it happened to be football-slash-soccer. It was a really difficult challenge, just as this is. I had no goal to get into football. I just like to do difficult projects.” Edited April 12, 2019 by BillsFan4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 i listened to GR in the car this morning, they were talking speculation possibly a trade for Beudreau. That would be interesting. I know him better than McClennan, so i like him better. Pretty poor reason for liking him I admit, but still. They were also talking about this list of RFAs coming up..holy mol;y is there a ton of talent there. https://www.nhl.com/news/2019-fantasy-hockey-rfa-preview-list/c-299419564 Would you rather have Duchene at $12 per, age 29 -36 or Point at $11per, give up 4 firsts, age 24-31. I want Point!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsFan4 Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: i listened to GR in the car this morning, they were talking speculation possibly a trade for Beudreau. That would be interesting. I know him better than McClennan, so i like him better. Pretty poor reason for liking him I admit, but still. They were also talking about this list of RFAs coming up..holy mol;y is there a ton of talent there. https://www.nhl.com/news/2019-fantasy-hockey-rfa-preview-list/c-299419564 Would you rather have Duchene at $12 per, age 29 -36 or Point at $11per, give up 4 firsts, age 24-31. I want Point!!!!! I would be absolutely thrilled with Boudreau. His teams always get better under him, and seem to get worse when he leaves. I believes he’s made the playoffs 11 of his 13 NHL seasons. And there’s this - I see people saying “I don’t want BB. He can’t get far enough in the playoffs” and I just have to shake my head! lol Let’s make the playoffs for the first time in 8+ years first, and then let’s consistently make them every year before we worry about a coach that can get us over the playoff hump. And it’s not like the guy forgets how to coach once the playoffs roll around. There are a lot of things that go into winning a series. Sometimes it’s just bad luck hitting a super hot team. I mean, look at Trotz. Never made it past the 2nd round his first what, 20yrs in the league? As for Point for four #1’s... I’d love him but I couldn’t do that. The Sabres just don’t have anywhere close to the team depth needed to make that trade, and they haven’t been too great about finding good players outside of the 1st round. Plus, they have drafted top 8 for the last 7 years straight, 3 of those years being top 2. I would be fine with trying to trade for Point though. There was a rumor of Ristolainen + Mittelstadt as the base for a Point trade. I’d be more willing to do something like that rather than give up four 1sts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: 4 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: i listened to GR in the car this morning, they were talking speculation possibly a trade for Beudreau. That would be interesting. I know him better than McClennan, so i like him better. Pretty poor reason for liking him I admit, but still. They were also talking about this list of RFAs coming up..holy mol;y is there a ton of talent there. https://www.nhl.com/news/2019-fantasy-hockey-rfa-preview-list/c-299419564 Would you rather have Duchene at $12 per, age 29 -36 or Point at $11per, give up 4 firsts, age 24-31. I want Point!!!!! I wouldn't give up four first round picks for Point. That is not to say that he isn't a terrific player who will get even better. In a cap system extended success is predicated on having a steady stream of young players added to the roster who are on their cheaper rookie deals. Mortgaging the future is a risky proposition for one player in an injury plagued sport. Those first round draft picks are also assets that can be used in trades. The acquisition of Montour is a good example of that. What the Sabres need is an infusion of talent to broaden out this thin roster. There needs to be additions on the second line and also in the defensive corps. If you weigh this roster down with a few heavy duty contracts at the expense of bulking up the rest of the roster you are limiting your options. I would also be hesitant to sign Duchene for $12 per year on an extended contract. Under your scenario if he was signed for the term you cited what happens with the Skinner deal? And then what happens in the not too distant future when Rehinhart and Dahlin contracts need to be addressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I would have been happy with TM but he wasn’t my first choice. Too many parallels between buffalo and Edmonton, where he just failed. That’s also why I was a bit surprised TM was interested in Buffalo. I am still hoping for AV, or Ralph Krueger or a trade for Bruce Boudreau (though I think the latter two are unlikely). Theres some other interesting candidates out there, too. Hopefully Botterill gets it right this time. He should have a much better idea of what this specific group of players need out of a coach, so that should help. He may may not get another chance at a coaching hire, so he better get it right! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 43 minutes ago, JohnC said: I wouldn't give up four first round picks for Point. That is not to say that he isn't a terrific player who will get even better. In a cap system extended success is predicated on having a steady stream of young players added to the roster who are on their cheaper rookie deals. Mortgaging the future is a risky proposition for one player in an injury plagued sport. Those first round draft picks are also assets that can be used in trades. The acquisition of Montour is a good example of that. What the Sabres need is an infusion of talent to broaden out this thin roster. There needs to be additions on the second line and also in the defensive corps. If you weigh this roster down with a few heavy duty contracts at the expense of bulking up the rest of the roster you are limiting your options. I would also be hesitant to sign Duchene for $12 per year on an extended contract. Under your scenario if he was signed for the term you cited what happens with the Skinner deal? And then what happens in the not too distant future when Rehinhart and Dahlin contracts need to be addressed? I think you can have a core of 4..Jack, Rasmus, Sam, Duchene/Point. I think Skinner is out of here...if he wanted to stay he would be signed by now. I get Stamkos did the same thing and re-signed...just something about the way this whole year went and Skinner not signing soon after the deadline when the 8 years could kick in. Hope I am wrong. In terms of 4 key guys...Leafs are going to be paying 4 guys..Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, and Marner...Chicago did it with Kane, Toews, Seabrook and Keith..Penquins are Syd, Malkin, Kessel, Latang...seems to me it is a doable thing. And in terms of the draft picks...just do not see them as valuable in the NHL if they are past the top 3-5 picks. Guys on GR made the point today Pens have had like 5 guys from the last 7drafts see the NHL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) Boudreau has coached a team to the playoffs in 10 of his 12 years coaching in the NHL and has the 4th highest winning % in NHL history for coaches over 100 games. He did it with 3 different teams. This past season was the first in 7 years to not make the playoffs. I would be psyched if the Sabres got him. Edited April 12, 2019 by Turk71 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 What's with all the talk about Boudreau? He's not leaving Minnesota. Fenton just confirmed that at a recent PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: What's with all the talk about Boudreau? He's not leaving Minnesota. Fenton just confirmed that at a recent PC. Does t mean they won’t trade him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 On 4/10/2019 at 6:50 PM, BillsFan4 said: That really wasn't much fun, at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, bbb said: That really wasn't much fun, at all. Hehe, he said balls. There, that’s my best attempt at making that one fun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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