All_Pro_Bills Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, LeviF said: Oh, I have a question! Why is it considered an "LGBTQ right" to speak to kindergartners about sex? Because supporting LGBTQ is the easiest path for whites, specifically white heterosexual males, to move out of the identity politics classification and definition of oppressor and onto the other side of the ledger into the supporting the oppressed category as defined by the woke hierarchy and pyramid. So its quite popular with your typical socially conscious neo-liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: Hey Freak.....are you a trained educator? I think not...or at least I hope not. Please leave this to the professional educators. Hey, you called anyone not heterosexual freaks - own it deek! Just like DR said gays are pedophiles - own it DR And Jim won't even touch the subject because he thinks sex ed is actually taught in K-3 and he is obsessed with "genital mutilation" but can't tell us where that is happening to minors in the United States... and no circumcision does not count. ---- What happens when a kid asks an innocent question as to why Kenneth has two Moms or Ann has two Dads? How do teachers address that question in front of all kids without making the kid asking the question feel bad or alienating the kids in question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, BillStime said: Hey, you called anyone not heterosexual freaks - own it deek! Just like DR said gays are pedophiles - own it DR And Jim won't even touch the subject because he thinks sex ed is actually taught in K-3 and he is obsessed with "genital mutilation" but can't tell us where that is happening to minors in the United States... and no circumcision does not count. ---- What happens when a kid asks an innocent question as to why Kenneth has two Moms or Ann has two Dads? How do teachers address that question in front of all kids without making the kid asking the question feel bad or alienating the kids in question? They are allowed to respond to that question no issues at all. Why don't you ackowledge you're wrong about the school having to out the student to the parents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 40 minutes ago, BillStime said: Nothing is stopping kids from discussing amongst themselves but if the teacher or administrator overhears the conversation - they are required to call the parents and tell them. This bill is meant to bully and force kids to be ashamed of themselves... Can anyone point to an education syllabus where classrooms in kindergarten, first, second and third grade are discussing sex education? And what happens when a kid asks an innocent question as to why Kenneth has two Moms or Ann has two dads? How do teachers address that question in front of all kids without making the kid asking the question feel bad or alienating the kids in question? This bill in not meant to force kids to be ashamed of themselves. That's your interpretation of it. Regarding your last question. Is the kid asking about HIS sexuality or the parents of a friend? THIS is the big difference You're a ***** mess. Edited March 9, 2022 by Chef Jim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, BillStime said: And Jim won't even touch the subject because he thinks sex ed is actually taught in K-3 and he is obsessed with "genital mutilation" but can't tell us where that is happening to minors in the United States... and no circumcision does not count. What in the world is this nonsense? I have my fingerprints ALL over this subject. Where have I stated sex ed is being taught in K-3? Where have I stated that any of this is happening in the US? I'll save you the time and effort. I have NOT. I'm just making sure it's NOT ever taught or done which this Bill is mostly about. You are hysterically attacking us all and don't even know what our arguments are. You are an embarrassment. Have you ever stopped to think why there is no one here defending you? Not even our liberal friends. They won't even touch you. I want you to slow down and just ponder that for a minute. Let us know what you come up with. Oh and one last point. You're talking to DR as if he was here. He's not. He's long gone. This is CLASSIC psychopathic behavior. Get help ok? Edited March 9, 2022 by Chef Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, BillStime said: DR, who does this bill prioritize? What is it in these bills that you specifically object to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: What is it in these bills that you specifically object to? He has no idea what's in the bill. As I pointed out he is repeating things removed from the bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: What is it in these bills that you specifically object to? Based on the tweet he posted I'm assuming he believes this bill infringes on LGBTQ rights. Which again begs the question that has yet to be answered, why is talking to kindergartners about sex in the category of "LGBTQ rights?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 52 minutes ago, BillStime said: Hey, you called anyone not heterosexual freaks - own it deek! Just like DR said gays are pedophiles - own it DR And Jim won't even touch the subject because he thinks sex ed is actually taught in K-3 and he is obsessed with "genital mutilation" but can't tell us where that is happening to minors in the United States... and no circumcision does not count. ---- What happens when a kid asks an innocent question as to why Kenneth has two Moms or Ann has two Dads? How do teachers address that question in front of all kids without making the kid asking the question feel bad or alienating the kids in question? Nice try Your disgusting hate is showing. Own it, you loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Don't let BillSy off the hook. He quickly went to calling everyone in support of this legislation a "freak". It should have showed you all how he really feels. True diversity hatred on full display. This thread should have ended right there! This thread should have ended four years ago but of course, the insecure cult - aka freaks - can't control their hate. 14 minutes ago, LeviF said: Based on the tweet he posted I'm assuming he believes this bill infringes on LGBTQ rights. Which again begs the question that has yet to be answered, why is talking to kindergartners about sex in the category of "LGBTQ rights?" Um, sorry - but you have yet to exhibit where these actual discussions are happening in those grades that requires this bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, BillStime said: This thread should have ended four years ago but of course, the insecure cult - aka freaks - can't control their hate. Um, sorry - but you have yet to exhibit where these actual discussions are happening in those grades that requires this bill. What’s next? You want to start throwing the N word around in a race relations thread? You’ve been exposed as a disgusting hate filled clown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 hours ago, BillStime said: Exactly Thanks but...I have no joy playing translator for your idiocy. 5 hours ago, Chef Jim said: That’s not what the Bill is intended to do in my mind. Not stop these things from happening but to make sure they never do and if they do those involved are punished to the full extent of the law. Gender affirmation treatment can be a real slippery slope to children. Again, I don't disagree with the law. The point that can be made critiquing it is the same: Is this actually happening at some scale that it needs to be legislated and trumpeted like it's a big win? To hear the pride on the right, you'd think these surgeries are happening all the time. 5 hours ago, Chef Jim said: For ***** sake NAMBLA is a real thing. Kind of. That's an inflated bogeyman and guess what, pedophilia is still a crime. Heck, we had a convicted pedo posting here forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 hour ago, BillStime said: Hey, you called anyone not heterosexual freaks - own it deek! Just like DR said gays are pedophiles - own it DR Why do you keep bringing up the pied piper of lunatics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, aristocrat said: He has no idea what's in the bill. As I pointed out he is repeating things removed from the bill Oh really? Can you post the exact version of the bill in question and where parental notification is stricken? 10 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: What’s next? You want to start throwing the N word around in a race relations thread? You’ve been exposed as a disgusting hate filled clown! Keep digging your grave Deek... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: Oh really? Can you post the exact version of the bill in question and where parental notification is stricken? https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022/02/23/amendment-to-dont-say-gay-bill-to-out-lgbtq-students-withdrawn/ There ya go bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, aristocrat said: https://www.washingtonblade.com/2022/02/23/amendment-to-dont-say-gay-bill-to-out-lgbtq-students-withdrawn/ There ya go bud So you didn't read the bill? Got it. Sure, they "removed" the information that outright said schools districts MUST OUT kids to their parents BUT purposely used vague language that can be interpreted in MANY different directions. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/e1/PDF An act relating to parental rights in education; amending s. 1001.42, F.S.; requiring district school boards to adopt procedures that comport with certain provisions of law for notifying a student's parent of specified information; requiring such procedures to reinforce the fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children in a specified manner; prohibiting the procedures from prohibiting a parent from accessing certain records; providing construction; prohibiting a school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that prohibit school district personnel from notifying a parent about specified information or that encourage or have the effect of encouraging a student to withhold from a parent such information; decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children in a specified manner; prohibiting the procedures from prohibiting a parent from accessing certain records; providing construction; prohibiting a school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that prohibit school district personnel from notifying a parent about specified information or that encourage or have the effect of encouraging a student to withhold from a parent such information; and so on... What kind of information? Why is this so vague? Edited March 9, 2022 by BillStime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, BillStime said: So you didn't read the bill? Got it. Sure, they "removed" the information that outright said schools districts MUST notify parents BUT purposely used vague language that can be interpreted in MANY different directions. https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2022/1557/BillText/e1/PDF An act relating to parental rights in education; amending s. 1001.42, F.S.; requiring district school boards to adopt procedures that comport with certain provisions of law for notifying a student's parent of specified information; requiring such procedures to reinforce the fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children in a specified manner; prohibiting the procedures from prohibiting a parent from accessing certain records; providing construction; prohibiting a school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that prohibit school district personnel from notifying a parent about specified information or that encourage or have the effect of encouraging a student to withhold from a parent such information; decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children in a specified manner; prohibiting the procedures from prohibiting a parent from accessing certain records; providing construction; prohibiting a school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that prohibit school district personnel from notifying a parent about specified information or that encourage or have the effect of encouraging a student to withhold from a parent such information; and so on... What kind of information? Why is this so vague? The language you mentioned earlier is not what's in the bill is it? Now you're bringing up something different. But good try Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, aristocrat said: The language you mentioned earlier is not what's in the bill is it? Now you're bringing up something different. But good try Are you kidding me? Why are you afraid to address what they LEFT in the bill? How can one NOT interpret SPECIFID INFORMATION, CERTAIN RECORDS, it as outing a kid? An act relating to parental rights in education; amending s. 1001.42, F.S.; requiring district school boards to adopt procedures that comport with certain provisions of law for notifying a student's parent of specified information; requiring such procedures to reinforce the fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children in a specified manner; prohibiting the procedures from prohibiting a parent from accessing certain records; providing construction; prohibiting a school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that prohibit school district personnel from notifying a parent about specified information or that encourage or have the effect of encouraging a student to withhold from a parent such information; decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children in a specified manner; prohibiting the procedures from prohibiting a parent from accessing certain records; providing construction; prohibiting a school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that prohibit school district personnel from notifying a parent about specified information or that encourage or have the effect of encouraging a student to withhold from a parent such information; You can't defend this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, BillStime said: Keep digging your grave Deek... Nice try Freak You went into your vast dictionary and painted everyone who supports this legislation with the one epithet that’s universally used to describe those in the greater LGBTQ community. Nice work hater! Again…you’ve been exposed. Not so easy when the hate speech is coming out of your sexist pie hole is it BillSy? Get lost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillStime said: Are you kidding me? Why are you afraid to address what they LEFT in the bill? How can one NOT interpret SPECIFID INFORMATION, CERTAIN RECORDS, it as outing a kid? An act relating to parental rights in education; amending s. 1001.42, F.S.; requiring district school boards to adopt procedures that comport with certain provisions of law for notifying a student's parent of specified information; requiring such procedures to reinforce the fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children in a specified manner; prohibiting the procedures from prohibiting a parent from accessing certain records; providing construction; prohibiting a school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that prohibit school district personnel from notifying a parent about specified information or that encourage or have the effect of encouraging a student to withhold from a parent such information; decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children in a specified manner; prohibiting the procedures from prohibiting a parent from accessing certain records; providing construction; prohibiting a school district from adopting procedures or student support forms that prohibit school district personnel from notifying a parent about specified information or that encourage or have the effect of encouraging a student to withhold from a parent such information; You can't defend this... Lol just to be clear. The language you have speaking about was removed. Now they have replaced it with different language that up until your last post you hadn't mentioned and I'm the one who was wrong? Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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