aceman_16 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 5 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...so then NFL players don't come with AKC papers??....just askin'... Not in THIS current CBA..... although they can still be tagged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, DefenseWins said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/24/another-great-wide-receiver-from-antonio-browns-family/ Yet another example of a player coming from a family of former and current players... Several others come to mind both current and in the past. The Bills currently have one half of the Edmunds Brothers. Chad Beebe (Don Beebe's son) is a current player with the Vikings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_family_relations_in_American_football The list above is huge... The AFL league in Oz has a ‘Father Son’ draft. If a player makes 100 club games his child may be drafted by that club when elligible. Began in the 1940’s when a club wanted to draft a son of a player killed in WW2 as an honour for the family. Each draft pick is assigned a value (with No. 1 starting at 3000 points, declining exponentially until No. 74 which has no value), which is regressed from historical player salary data. During the draft, any club may bid for a father–son eligible player with any draft pick. The father's club, if it wishes to select the son, must then use its next one or more draft picks until the total points value of the surrendered picks adds up to the value of the draft pick used by the bidding, less a discount – which is either 20% of the bid value or 197 points (equivalent to pick No. 56), whichever is greater. Any points left over after reaching the bid value result in the draft pick being shuffled down the order. The club which originally made the bid then has the next selection in the draft. I’m now at an age where I’m watching the kids of the stars of my childhood. There’s definitely a ‘legacy’ connection that’s strong with the fan bases that’s great. Collingwood for example has about 5 players with dad’s being club legends. List of 40. Edited November 24, 2018 by Shamrock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 8 hours ago, DefenseWins said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/24/another-great-wide-receiver-from-antonio-browns-family/ Yet another example of a player coming from a family of former and current players... Several others come to mind both current and in the past. The Bills currently have one half of the Edmunds Brothers. Chad Beebe (Don Beebe's son) is a current player with the Vikings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_family_relations_in_American_football The list above is huge... it helps , it's like breeding horses. If Hitler wasn't foiled we could have super players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 What about the kids whose parents weren't very good athletes but loved a particular sport or recognized that their children had exceptional talent, and made every effort, sometimes at considerable sacrifice, to see their children succeed in that sport? I think two very notable cases of this were Tiger Woods and the Williams sisters, Serena and Venus. I think that this is a much more common phenomenon than top athletes producing children who are also top athletes in the same sport. I think the relative rarity of the sons of ex-NFL players becoming NFL players themselves is the reason that we comment on this apparent "genetic" advantage. The reality is that the overwhelming majority of NFL players aren't the sons ex-NFL players. Moreover, the phenomenon of brothers becoming NFL players may very well also be a product of nurture moreso than nature as most were raised in the same environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Mango said: Physiology is genetic. It is no surprise. Chances are if your dad and/or mom was an Olympian, you have what it takes to be one too. Your parents are idiots. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 hours ago, DC Tom said: Your parents are idiots. I get it, some typos in my original response. Fat fingers. But what am I wrong about? It’s true. There’s are more guys out there with the drive to be elite, than there are guys with elite physiology. Physiology wins 99/100 compared to the rest of the population. And it wins 85/100 at the Olympic/professional level. Or is it that everybody on this message board could have been elite at a sport if only they “wanted to” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Doug Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 12 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Genes.... they do stuff I’m not so sure it’s a simple as that. When we mate, we produce offspring that has roughly 50% of the genetic make-up of the parents. Any desirable traits (football IQ gene??) one parent holds has a 50% chance of being inherited. That’s basically a coin flip. What is much, much more likely to influence an offsprings future achievements is being raised in a household that will bestow the values of the parents. This could include having you kid hang out at the stadium all the time, parental insight, positive experiences, with a healthy serving of connections and favors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 12 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: As an owner of five dogs, I take exception to this notion. ? Well, just imagine five horses. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Oh yea been proven since forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Mango said: I get it, some typos in my original response. Fat fingers. But what am I wrong about? That Olympic success is inheritable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Yes!! And I'll gladly take Hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Bloodlines do not gauarantee success but you would think it helps increase the chances due to both genetics and influence/upbringing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 8 hours ago, DC Tom said: That Olympic success is inheritable. It is to a certain extent. If your parents are olympians, then you’re much more likely to be an Olympian than a child from two parents who are accountants and English teachers. Does it make anything gauranteed, no, but it does mean you have a significant genetic advanatage over the rest of the population. Nobody wins the Olympics with just hard work. Can’t be done without inheriting elite physiology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Mango said: It is to a certain extent. If your parents are olympians, then you’re much more likely to be an Olympian than a child from two parents who are accountants and English teachers. How much more likely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 I wonder if Olympian Jordan Burroughs still posts here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/24/2018 at 9:47 AM, Thurman#1 said: This. Kids from that background have a huge advantage in reaching the 10,000 hours to achieve mastery. There's also plenty of athletes coached by their Dad Joe Schmo at varsity HS level and grow up to idolize and live and breath the sport. Possible get even more exposure when their.. "bloodline" isn't working in the NFL. I think a lot of players come through that way. Now genetically? sure.. but Mommy better be a D1 college basketball or volleyball player and daddy a football player / coach. Tom Brady and Giselle and any of these athletes and models are just passing down good lookin genes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 ...should we try transfusions?..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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