wppete Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 4:00pm EST now .... Its over.... Edited October 30, 2018 by wppete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 13 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: Those are all things you need to weigh. If you have the first pick you probably aren't trading down much further than five. So if you trade down to five, still get an elite talent at a position of need and then add a future 1st round pick as well I think you need to consider it. Basically, do you want Nick Bosa or would you rather have both Greedy Williams and N'Keal Harry? Agreed Personally, I'd rather have the elite prospect than 2 good ones 13 minutes ago, Perry Turtle said: Said Donahoe when he drafted Willis McGahee or Buddy Nix when he drafted CJ Spiller. We're not talking about pick #23 here (or even #9)...the post was about trading down from a top 3 pick--a pick at which you should be getting an elite talent; not a top-10 talent Big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, thurst44 said: If Allen works out, then they really did not. They may have got two elite players in addition to their QB. I get the frustration as Mahomes is looking like an MVP and Watson has looked good at times, but as you said, Allen does remain to be seen, but his ceiling is very high, so to say they blew the '17 draft is premature. I honestly hope you're right. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Perry Turtle said: According to the genius Bills GMs who made those picks, I guess they were. Anyway, those picks were justified as BPA. As for elite pass rushers, if you replace Hughes with a JJ Watt who is in his prime, how many more wins do the Bills have this season with their current offense. How many more years do the Bills have to tank before they add talent to the offense? Anyway, it looks like Hughes is staying, and the defense will likely finish top 10 while the offense falls to 32nd. It'll be interesting to see how Beane decides to build a modern NFL offense next season. And those guys were idiots. I agree that the offense needs to be fixed, but not entirely at the expense of the Defense. You don't overpay for offense just because the defense is okay. You gotta be wise about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, thebandit27 said: Agreed Personally, I'd rather have the elite prospect than 2 good ones We're not talking about pick #23 here (or even #9)...the post was about trading down from a top 3 pick--a pick at which you should be getting an elite talent; not a top-10 talent Big difference So you're talking about a Marcel Dareus, Mike William's, or Sammy Watkins type of talent? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Ian Rappaport just said on NFL Network that he knows the Bills did not make any trades today. So no KB like surprise after the deadline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Maybe they wouldn't let Beane make any trades cause they figured "let's not let this guy do more damage than he's already done" lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Trades are like most good things in life. The more you get, the more you want. *Sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: And those guys were idiots. I agree that the offense needs to be fixed, but not entirely at the expense of the Defense. You don't overpay for offense just because the defense is okay. You gotta be wise about it. But in this case, the defense is actually pretty good, with major investments made in it the last two seasons. The offense has died on the vine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, Perry Turtle said: But in this case, the defense is actually pretty good, with major investments made in it the last two seasons. The offense has died on the vine. Right, and that's why I would rather trade down and use two picks on offense as opposed to the defense. But if the question is would I rather have Jerry Hughes, and an Overdrafted WR (ala Watkins) taken at #3 or Nick Bosa and a third round pick to spend on a receiver, I gotta go with Bosa and the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 5 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Ian Rappaport just said on NFL Network that he knows the Bills did not make any trades today. So no KB like surprise after the deadline. Sad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I have never cared for how the Redskins do business, but getting a good safety in response to your division rivals trading for WR's is a smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Turtle Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 minute ago, whatdrought said: Right, and that's why I would rather trade down and use two picks on offense as opposed to the defense. But if the question is would I rather have Jerry Hughes, and an Overdrafted WR (ala Watkins) taken at #3 or Nick Bosa and a third round pick to spend on a receiver, I gotta go with Bosa and the pick. I think we're in alignment on the first point, but not as much on the second, but that's cool. Thanks for the discussion! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I have never cared for how the Redskins do business, but getting a good safety in response to your division rivals trading for WR's is a smart move. Or maybe it was a move to please half the country so they can say a Clinton is in Washington again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Like I said..... Everything is being pushed to 2019.....Beane didnt want to give up any of his draft picks My only hope here is that Shady is now on the team next year....please do not release him in the offseason if your not going to get what you can for him now. Just keep the same RB's and dont create a new hole. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 why do the Packers throw away their good safeties all of the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Ian Rappaport just said on NFL Network that he knows the Bills did not make any trades today. So no KB like surprise after the deadline. I guess beane thinks the offense is all set and he didn’t need additional reinforcements or draft picks. I am beginning to sour on beane. We gave up Cordy Glenn, picks 12, 53, and 55 for josh. Like I stated over and over- keep the picks, build the lines, draft skill positions, and don’t give up all those picks for 1 player. We would have 3 new starters with those picks. Don’t make the move for a qbunless we are close and certain they are the qb. ***** giving up all those picks! josh Gordon and a 7th for a 5th. Demaryous for a 4th. Good ***** luck finding Demaryous in the 4th Edited October 30, 2018 by Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 DT is old and slow now and really not even an upgrade over Benjamin. Maybe if Benjamins a C Thomas is a C+......maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 49 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: Maybe they wouldn't let Beane make any trades cause they figured "let's not let this guy do more damage than he's already done" lol That's probably not too far off. Just let McD make all the player personnel decisions. Beane is just a puppet. If this team eventually fails it will be on Sean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Remember when Beane got pick 65 for Tyrod and everyone thought he was the best thing ever? A lot can happen here in six months... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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