NoHuddleKelly12 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, PearlHowardman said: It starts at the very top - the Pegulas. The Pegulas are gery good business people but aren't good professional sports team owners. And they never will be. 8-8 forever! Except that Wilson post-99 perfected acceptance of the many heroic marches to 7-9, 8-8 for so many years before Pegula...I do give him credit for the Polian/Butler eras putting together our SB teams, but outside of that window of time, your statement would probably better fit on that shoe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, nucci said: we are 2-5 . about to go 2-6.....not bad enough for you? one fan on another thread is confident the Bills can run the table after tonight...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Ramza86 said: Everyone but Barkley is tradeable. They have packed it in. The firesale has started....at least they can admit and embrace the tank. We cant even tank properly. Really we want to be the team that drafted a RB instead of a QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: I think that's on the owner. Mara still believed in Eli. That's fine---even better, draft his replacement and park him on the bench for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ramza86 said: Everyone but Barkley is tradeable. They have packed it in. The firesale has started....at least they can admit and embrace the tank. We cant even tank properly. Beane did a "firesale" in 2017 and is still getting ripped by fans for it. You would've rather been the Giants this season? The team that told their fan-base, "We can compete this year. We're a piece or two away. We're going to take this talented young RB and he's gonna be that missing link we need!" They went into "win now" mode with an all-new coaching staff, a QB who's been in decline for four or five years now, a slow, overpriced defense (aside from Landon Collins) and an OL on par with the Bills. Now that they're 1-6, it's firesale time. That's not really the best way to go about a rebuild. Once the season is over, they're gonna can Shurmur and have to go through hiring an all new coaching staff again, and maybe even new front office executives. The front office has referenced that they're mostly done trimming the roster. They'll make tweaks here and there but it seems they've laid the foundation and are ready to build the house. Edited October 29, 2018 by blacklabel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'd switch divisions the last 19 years with them. Let any other team come into this division and deal with the Patriots and see how they're thought of. We'd have multiple playoff appearances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, 416BillsFan said: Our shelves are empty after the 2017 firesale. Yeah, aside from McCoy we don't have any veteran assets left to trade. Our lack of players with trade value is a real indictment on the state of the franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 We are like the Giants, we stole their process manual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, PearlHowardman said: It starts at the very top - the Pegulas. The Pegulas are gery good business people but aren't good professional sports team owners. And they never will be. 8-8 forever! I think there is enough evidence with both Sabres and Bills now to suggest that they have been bad sports franchise owners so far. However, they are learning as they go and I think/hope they get better as time rolls forward. Not sure it's fair to suggest they will never be good owners. As a caveat, I would suggest that Terry Pegula is the "wrong" kind of sports fan to become a good owner. He seems like a very low information sports fan, kind of naive. Loves cheering for his teams but doesn't really get the finer points of what makes winning organizations tick. Doesn't mean he can't learn though and improve as time goes forward. 19 minutes ago, White Linen said: I'd switch divisions the last 19 years with them. Let any other team come into this division and deal with the Patriots and see how they're thought of. We'd have multiple playoff appearances. If you're suggesting the Bills' problems over the last 19 years stem from having NE in our division, your'e wrong. That hasn't helped, of course, but our issues have run a hell of a lot deeper than who is in our division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Barkeley? I was never a big fan even when he was quarterbacking the Trojans! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheElectricCompany Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, billspro said: Really we want to be the team that drafted a RB instead of a QB? Barkley is on pace for 2000 yards from scrimmage. He looks as good as advertised. NYG may have an Eli problem, but they have two elite playmakers that will be a big help to the new QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 "The Bills front office is totally incompetent. They have failed to provide any kind of offensive weapons to their rookie Quarterback, to help aid in his development." (A FEW WEEKS LATER....) "The Bills front office is totally incompetent. They haven't traded away their only remaining offensive weapons for additional draft picks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, PearlHowardman said: It starts at the very top - the Pegulas. The Pegulas are gery good business people but aren't good professional sports team owners. And they never will be. 8-8 forever! Just stop. Cripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 hours ago, Fadingpain said: If you're suggesting the Bills' problems over the last 19 years stem from having NE in our division, your'e wrong. That hasn't helped, of course, but our issues have run a hell of a lot deeper than who is in our division. I'm suggesting if you take any organization besides maybe 2 in the NFL and put them in the Patriots division - you think of them largely how the Bills have been viewed. "Hasn't helped" doesn't even come close to how incredibly unlucky it's been to be in the division with them. The Bills, Jets and Dolphins are playing for a wild card the last 15 years except once. That's friggin nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 hours ago, TheElectricCompany said: Barkley is on pace for 2000 yards from scrimmage. He looks as good as advertised. NYG may have an Eli problem, but they have two elite playmakers that will be a big help to the new QB. Barkley is probably good enough to knock them out of QB1 territory in the next draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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