Tenhigh Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 10 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: I don't eat Cheetos while doing that...the dust is abrasive. You gotta get it wet to make a paste, then you cut a hole in the.....nevermind 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 12 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: QB ratings are as worthless as used toilet paper. The OP is wack, but you are wrong. Traditional passer rating differential is the best predictor of team success and failure that we have, and an individual's individual rating is obviously a big part of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelingOnYouboty Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Wonderlics don't mean much to be honest. Josh Allen doesn't play smart on the field. That insane INT in the endzone v Packers isn't a rookie mistake. He was making those type of decisions at Wyoming. It's built into his fabric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) Does scoring high on a wonderlic really have anything to do with reading/reacting after the snap of a football? The wonderlic is timed and you have no knowledge of the questions ahead of time. I get it, he has the intelligence to understand defenses but the visual/spatial processing that must occur in milliseconds is not something that is demonstrated on a wonderlic test. I mean, if he scored at the bottom that would be one thing but anyone in the top 25% can understand and read defenses, probably even a bigger percentage. Making conclusions about the ability to be a good NFL Qb based on a score of 34 vs 37 is useless. 13 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said: QB ratings are as worthless as used toilet paper. Not true, Sure picking a guy with a 100 rating vs a guy with a 95 rating may not be clear in absolute rankings. But when a guy has a 60 rating, he is no good and the offense sucks 100% of the time. The guy can improve, especially if he is young but you can be assure an offense with a QB who has a rating of 60 is not something you want ever. Edited October 9, 2018 by mattynh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 The OP is a good example of how many folks have absolutely no clue about the proper use of statistics. As for Wonderlich scores, smarter you are the faster you hopefully learn. It doesn't mean you walk into the league knowing everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Threedollabills said: Allen scored highest on the Wonderlic (37) and so has a high intellectual ceiling for reading coverages and changing at the line, etc. BUT OMG HE HAS THE TENTH WORST PASSER RATING IN THE LEAGUE (60.4) WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LAST AMONG STARTERS AND JUST BARELY AHEAD OF TWO OTHER BILLS: PETERMAN (0.0) AND BOJORQUEZ (39.6)! Hilarious stats for fins and pats and jets fans, but utterly embarrassing for us. If his head doesn't crack open like Leaf's did he's got a shot next year with a FA line and N'Keal Harry. Any thoughts on this statistical nightmare? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING ...yup....take a deep breath.......you can exhale on December 30 at 4:04PM.....it's only Tuesday.... Edited October 9, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Gun Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Threedollabills said: Allen scored highest on the Wonderlic (37) and so has a high intellectual ceiling for reading coverages and changing at the line, etc. BUT OMG HE HAS THE TENTH WORST PASSER RATING IN THE LEAGUE (60.4) WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY LAST AMONG STARTERS AND JUST BARELY AHEAD OF TWO OTHER BILLS: PETERMAN (0.0) AND BOJORQUEZ (39.6)! Hilarious stats for fins and pats and jets fans, but utterly embarrassing for us. If his head doesn't crack open like Leaf's did he's got a shot next year with a FA line and N'Keal Harry. Any thoughts on this statistical nightmare? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&season=2018&seasonType=REG&d-447263-n=1&d-447263-o=1&conference=null&d-447263-p=1&statisticCategory=PASSING&d-447263-s=PASSING_PASSER_RATING I know, how dare a rookie QB who has started 4 games act like a rookie QB who has started 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Process Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Only saving grace.....wow.....such small mindedness. I for one enjoy watching Allen even with his temporary flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 7:55 AM, FeelingOnYouboty said: Wonderlics don't mean much to be honest. Josh Allen doesn't play smart on the field. That insane INT in the endzone v Packers isn't a rookie mistake. He was making those type of decisions at Wyoming. It's built into his fabric. the test is used to see if one can sit there and think for a few minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/8/2018 at 7:41 PM, Tolstoy said: Guys, give the OP a break. he is simply pointing out a stat that is a bit discouraging, and asking for your help in finding a brighter side. We have a habit on this board of viciously attacking people who say anything that we don't agree with. So, as some replies have said, it is only four games, and his first four games in the league. Let's give it more time! So, what's new with the Human Race. People love to pile on too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/9/2018 at 7:33 AM, Mr. WEO said: Let's guess OP's Wonderlic! I'll say it never gets above Kelvin Benjamin's..... Travis Henry 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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