Dont look now but word is Josh Allen is already there

[eball]

14 hours ago, zonabb said:

Who cares? Oh, only those emotional types who so badly want the guy to succeed and thereby roll out tidbit after tidbit as if they have a causal relationship to success. Looks, he did this, this, and this this summer after picking cantaloupes and throwing them 50 yards into bins all day. And the book says if he does them all.... Super Bowl. Lots of QBs work just as hard, come in early, stay late, talk the talk,.... and then suck royally. 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for the pep talk!

[Gugny]

F5!!!!!!!!

 

[Elite Poster]

On 7/18/2018 at 12:27 PM, Sky Diver said:

The other guy is working on a plan to fix the NCAA. How would you rather have your QB spend his time?

 

The other guy signed his contract before the top QBs did because he doesn't want any distractions going into camp. Josh has one more day to sign before things get interesting. 

[Cornette's Commentary]

Just now, Elite Poster said:

 

The other guy signed his contract before the top QBs did because he doesn't want any distractions going into camp. Josh has one more day to sign before things get interesting. 

Here.  Wear it with pride on Sundays: https://www.nflshop.com/Mens_Arizona_Cardinals_Josh_Rosen_NFL_Pro_Line_Cardinal_Player_Jersey/t-25828931+o-0261+d-899300124+f-1978056+z-9-3014010602?_s=ak1944nfl-pla&sku=10945604

[Elite Poster]

Just now, Cornette's Commentary said:

Here.  Wear it with pride on Sundays: https://www.nflshop.com/Mens_Arizona_Cardinals_Josh_Rosen_NFL_Pro_Line_Cardinal_Player_Jersey/t-25828931+o-0261+d-899300124+f-1978056+z-9-3014010602?_s=ak1944nfl-pla&sku=10945604

 

Did I hurt your feelings or something? I'm just stating facts. Allen is my QB. He is still unsigned. That is a negative to me, because I would like my rookie to accept his deal before work starts. No different for any other player. 

[eball]

51 minutes ago, Elite Poster said:

 

Did I hurt your feelings or something? I'm just stating facts. Allen is my QB. He is still unsigned. That is a negative to me, because I would like my rookie to accept his deal before work starts. No different for any other player. 

 

Until Josh Allen misses one day of classroom work or one minute of football practice I don't believe your "negative" is warranted.  And really, I doubt Josh Allen is worried about the contract right now -- he's telling his agent to "get it done" and trusting that any delay is some legalese that will be worked out shortly.

 

This is all going to be quite comical when the contract is announced tonight or tomorrow.

[Elite Poster]

38 minutes ago, eball said:

 

Until Josh Allen misses one day of classroom work or one minute of football practice I don't believe your "negative" is warranted.  And really, I doubt Josh Allen is worried about the contract right now -- he's telling his agent to "get it done" and trusting that any delay is some legalese that will be worked out shortly.

 

This is all going to be quite comical when the contract is announced tonight or tomorrow.

 

Btw his best bud Sammy Darnold is skipping a few days of camp to figure out his contract...

[BuffaLoko]

On 7/18/2018 at 1:43 PM, Luxy312 said:

 

More hyped and picked earlier than Allen include:  Mitch Trubisky, Jameis Winston, Eric Fisher, Robert Griffin, JaMarcus Russell, Ronnie Brown, Charles Rogers, Courtney Brown, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf, Jake Long, Jason Smith.  That's just in the last 20 years.  Allen isn't being "hyped" at all.  Most don't even believe he'll be ready right out of the gates.  Not sure what delusion you're living in.

I can find some non-QBs in your list, so I will go and add a couple more RBs: Cedric Benson and Ricky himself,

Edited July 24, 2018 by BuffaLoko

[Gigs]

On 7/18/2018 at 12:26 PM, Mr. WEO said:

A few years ago, the Bills had a 3rd overall pick who was dedicated to the craft service...

Lol

 

On 7/18/2018 at 12:27 PM, John from Riverside said:

So what?

Every year and every player is differnet

Would you feel better if he was NOT there working?

Wooooooosh

[BillsFan17]

So, he is apparently there, but still had yet to sign?

[JoPar_v2]

Don’t rookies sign some sort of “pre-agreement” or insurance prior to signing their rookie contracts that allows them to do things like mini camps, structured workouts, i.e. all the things Allen has done with the team up to this point? So isn’t it possible he has been around working with the team, even without having signed his contract?

 

Obviously training camp is different, and he needs to sign before he can report to that.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

...guaranteed money and offset language are the two variable lynch pins.......agents are playing chess waiting for Mayfield and Darnold to set the bar(s).......reporting without a contract for any of them makes zero sense and is a huge risk if injured......no protection.....this is Boza II........

[C.Biscuit97]

On 7/20/2018 at 8:20 AM, Sky Diver said:

We don’t actually know how much time he spent developing his plan. 10 - 20 hrs was someone’s assumption.

 

He’s such a brainiac maybe he hatched the plan while he was having breakfast eating his granola and drinking a double latte.

Holy crap!  You are obsessed with Rosen.  It’s creepy.  You bring him up in every thread and try to trash him because he called out Bama for being a joke academic school.  Move on.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

20 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Holy crap!  You are obsessed with Rosen.  It’s creepy.  You bring him up in every thread and try to trash him because he called out Bama for being a joke academic school.  Move on.

 

...Rosen has proven the same as Allen at the NFL LEVEL............ditto for Mayfield & Darnold...so to mitigate epidemics of "blu bawls", "knotted nylons", "sandy jockey shorts" and "testosterone gone wild", how 'bout if they ALL grade out as INCOMPLETE at the NFL level?.....just a dopey unfathomable proposal from OTAG because the TBD "pundnuts" will assuredly tell me "NO"..they know best.....SMH...........

Edited July 24, 2018 by OldTimeAFLGuy

[Sky Diver]

1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Holy crap!  You are obsessed with Rosen.  It’s creepy.  You bring him up in every thread and try to trash him because he called out Bama for being a joke academic school.  Move on.

 

Do you get mad at people poking fun at Brady too?

[Bing Bong]

Starting to get annoyed at Cornett's Commentary, criticism at people having fun running scenarios about Shady and other topics "OH YOU THINK SHADY'S A CRIMINAL, WHAT KIND OF BILLS FAN ARE YOU"

"nah I just like talking about running backs??"

On 7/23/2018 at 7:52 PM, Bills Pimpin' said:

Yeah. That's not hard at all.

Feeling the /s. It's probably hard undoubtedly I understand. I just hate the NCAA and want to see some beaurocratic function to cut their BS. Cause every coach and player under the system thinks it's bullcrap. 

 

They also are the ruin of American soccer. "Student athletes can't play so many games." Our farm system pales to serious countries that give 18 year olds 100+ games. But that's my personal vendettas.

 

My argument is it's not hard if they get a few people in power with a modicum of ethics. But I am quite naive I suppose. There's only so much South Park can do to bring it to attention.

 

You feel me big pimp?

 

 

Edited July 25, 2018 by PetermanThrew5Picks

[eball]

I'll be damned, NOW I'm going to look.

[Bills Pimpin']

2 hours ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

Starting to get annoyed at Cornett's Commentary, criticism at people having fun running scenarios about Shady and other topics "OH YOU THINK SHADY'S A CRIMINAL, WHAT KIND OF BILLS FAN ARE YOU"

"nah I just like talking about running backs??"

Feeling the /s. It's probably hard undoubtedly I understand. I just hate the NCAA and want to see some beaurocratic function to cut their BS. Cause every coach and player under the system thinks it's bullcrap. 

 

They also are the ruin of American soccer. "Student athletes can't play so many games." Our farm system pales to serious countries that give 18 year olds 100+ games. But that's my personal vendettas.

 

My argument is it's not hard if they get a few people in power with a modicum of ethics. But I am quite naive I suppose. There's only so much South Park can do to bring it to attention.

 

You feel me big pimp?

 

 

I feel ya but the dollars are too big for rational thought IMO. I honestly believe the only way to change it is if the fans stop from making it a 2 billion dollar industry by not giving them their hard earned dollars or the players have another way to play AND make money. There is no reason for them to change their model if their model is a monopoly and that Monopoly is making them money. I don't think Josh Allen can handle that. I'm not sure The Donald can. (Although he did help to get the boys in the NFL to stand during That time Anthem)?

[Bing Bong]

5 hours ago, Bills Pimpin' said:

I feel ya but the dollars are too big for rational thought IMO. I honestly believe the only way to change it is if the fans stop from making it a 2 billion dollar industry by not giving them their hard earned dollars or the players have another way to play AND make money. There is no reason for them to change their model if their model is a monopoly and that Monopoly is making them money. I don't think Josh Allen can handle that. I'm not sure The Donald can. (Although he did help to get the boys in the NFL to stand during That time Anthem)?

We need big baller brand JBL for football

[John from Riverside]

On 7/24/2018 at 9:49 AM, Elite Poster said:

 

Did I hurt your feelings or something? I'm just stating facts. Allen is my QB. He is still unsigned. That is a negative to me, because I would like my rookie to accept his deal before work starts. No different for any other player. 

What a difference a day makes

[Thurman#1]

On 7/20/2018 at 8:14 PM, Bills Pimpin' said:

The problem with Rosen is that he actually thinks he can fix the NCAA in 10-20 hours. He also probably thinks he can solve world hunger,  cure cancer and of course fix the Arizona offense in 10-20 hours. Rosens downfall won't be his talent, it will be his mental makeup. By all reports the guy is very douchy, entitled and thinks he's smarter than everyone in the room. Not great characteristics for the locker room or the film room. (Jay Cutler anyone?) And telling the world he can fix the NCAA is proof of that. I will take Allen's demeanor any day and I'll take his talents as well.

Should be an interesting comparison for a few years for sure, but as of today I feel pretty good about the choice Beane made..

 

 

 

All reports are he's douchy? Absolute nonsense. Perhaps all the reports you're reading, because you're choosing the headlines that criticize him and only reading those. There's not a single teammate who's criticized the guy and plenty who've given him unqualified support. Lots of reports on Rosen have been very positive. Enough so that he got picked at #10 despite injury concerns.

 

There's plenty of reports out there that Rosen is a good guy with interests that piss off people with very old-school views. 

 

And your argument that he thinks he can fix the NCAA in 10 - 20 hours is ridiculous on many levels. First, he clearly doesn't think he's fixed the problem. What he and the guys working with him have done is to present an interesting alternative, stimulating discussion and perhaps being part of the start of some real changes in a corrupt system. Second, great ideas spelled out in time periods in the neighborhood of 10 - 20 hours have been responsible for massive changes throughout history. 

 

It didn't take longer than that for Lincoln to write the Gettyburg address, or for Luther to think out the message on the church doors. And before people come up with the idiocy, no I'm not comparing his idea to Lincoln's or Luther's. I'm simply pointing out that plenty of ideas responsible for big changes have been started in no more time than Rosen probably spent.

 

You wanna take Allen's demeanor over Rosen's? Fine. As is the opposite. In terms of talent, I'd have taken Rosen in a millisecond. He's far more developed. And developing is not always problem-free. Just the opposite. I'm hoping both succeed. I've always like Arizona.

[Bills Pimpin']

23 hours ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

All reports are he's douchy? Absolute nonsense. Perhaps all the reports you're reading, because you're choosing the headlines that criticize him and only reading those. There's not a single teammate who's criticized the guy and plenty who've given him unqualified support. Lots of reports on Rosen have been very positive. Enough so that he got picked at #10 despite injury concerns.

 

There's plenty of reports out there that Rosen is a good guy with interests that piss off people with very old-school views. 

 

And your argument that he thinks he can fix the NCAA in 10 - 20 hours is ridiculous on many levels. First, he clearly doesn't think he's fixed the problem. What he and the guys working with him have done is to present an interesting alternative, stimulating discussion and perhaps being part of the start of some real changes in a corrupt system. Second, great ideas spelled out in time periods in the neighborhood of 10 - 20 hours have been responsible for massive changes throughout history. 

 

It didn't take longer than that for Lincoln to write the Gettyburg address, or for Luther to think out the message on the church doors. And before people come up with the idiocy, no I'm not comparing his idea to Lincoln's or Luther's. I'm simply pointing out that plenty of ideas responsible for big changes have been started in no more time than Rosen probably spent.

 

You wanna take Allen's demeanor over Rosen's? Fine. As is the opposite. In terms of talent, I'd have taken Rosen in a millisecond. He's far more developed. And developing is not always problem-free. Just the opposite. I'm hoping both succeed. I've always like Arizona.

To your first point, I apologize for using the word all, I should have used the word many when describing the reports about Rosens demeanor. But the fact is there are such reports, that is not untrue. There have no such reports about Allen that I have read.

Secondly, my argument of Rosen thinking he can fix the NCAA is no more ridiculous, in fact less ridiculous, than you thinking Lincoln or Luther came up with their country altering ideas in 10 to 20 hours. It's more like a lifetime of experiences to lead them to the words and actions to change a country.

 

Besides all of that, the point I was trying to make was that the way Rosen acts and talks during his "stimulating discussions" about this subject as well as some public interviews comes off as a smug, I am better than thou attitude and that demeanor, IMO, will not go over well with some teammates and some coaches. I don't know the dude and I don't know Allen, but I do have eyes and ears and I can form an opinion from what I see and hear from both players about how they will fit into a locker room culture and I would rather have Allen. 

 

As far as taking Rosens talent over Allen's in a "millisecond"? I could argue that as well. More polished? Yes. More developed? Possibly. More talented? I don't think so, but I don't equate either of the first 2 to talent. IMO Allen has more raw talent. Where we do agree is on the development of the talent is certainly no sure thing, in fact, it's probably less than 50/50, but I think the upside is significantly higher. 

 

[Bing Bong]

On 7/18/2018 at 11:29 AM, Sky Diver said:

 

Let me know when he cures cancer or solves world hunger.

His mission is to end Alabama. That's all he's aiming for

 

Quite an admirable cause Really

[Sky Diver]

54 minutes ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:

His mission is to end Alabama. That's all he's aiming for

 

Quite an admirable cause Really

 

Solving world hunger will be an easier task.

[North Buffalo]

11 minutes ago, Sky Diver said:

 

Solving world hunger will be an easier task.

Nah it could all end in a millisecond ?