Mr. WEO Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 19 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha, it’s just so stupid the nfl and fans care more about fake patriotism than sexual predators! Can’t wait to draft Winston and Joe Mixon next year in fantasy! Did you read the Sharper story? It’s freaking nuts. Dude was all over the US knocking women out, even his girlfriends. So crazy. He was a fantasy bust last year. Take him. In between his two known sexual assaults, what has he shown you on the football field that would force you (see what I did there?) to conclude he has the makings of one the all time great NFL QBs? n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Haha, it’s just so stupid the nfl and fans care more about fake patriotism than sexual predators! Can’t wait to draft Winston and Joe Mixon next year in fantasy! Did you read the Sharper story? It’s freaking nuts. Dude was all over the US knocking women out, even his girlfriends. So crazy. ..that my friend is NOTHING short of speechless......sure as hell hope WInston NEVER gets THERE.....good Lord............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Bucs GM was in an easy spot and screwed it up. Eat that L Tampa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 18 hours ago, Fadingpain said: This odd habit of the NFL playing the role of a quasi-judicial body has to stop. Did Winston commit a crime? Then let the authorities put him in jail. If he did not, let him play. Who the F is the NFL to be handing out determinations on people's conduct one way or the other? What is this, some S. American banana republic? I get that a certain percentage of NFL players, at all times, are thugs, and this creates image problems that impedes the NFL's cash flow...but let the court system function on its own! There are many industries that hold their employees to a code of public conduct. But, this issue especially speaks to how much the NFL is, by and large, a part of the entertainment industry. And, if there's any confusion as to why conduct would be held accountable in the workplace, just ask Kevin Spacey, or Louis CK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 18 hours ago, Limeaid said: There were two rides. First ride with three passengers and second with "drunk" mr touchy-feely. Sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 18 hours ago, Fadingpain said: This odd habit of the NFL playing the role of a quasi-judicial body has to stop. Did Winston commit a crime? Then let the authorities put him in jail. If he did not, let him play. Who the F is the NFL to be handing out determinations on people's conduct one way or the other? What is this, some S. American banana republic? I get that a certain percentage of NFL players, at all times, are thugs, and this creates image problems that impedes the NFL's cash flow...but let the court system function on its own! The NFL wouldn't have to act as a judicial body if the teams felt obligated to do their own investigations and punishments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 18 hours ago, Fadingpain said: What is this, some S. American banana republic? Starting to look that way, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 listening to Greg Landry's podcast these incidents are no surprise to those who scouted him. There are more incidents than those that have reached media attention. This guy is an entitled thug whose parents and coaches have enabled him all his life. Nick Saban refused to sign him for these reasons. Not a good human being. Not long for this league 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 On 6/26/2018 at 5:32 AM, SouthNYfan said: Gotcha. I remembered seeing something a few years back linking NASA to that place in Alabama. I knew there was a NASA connection:) As is the HQ for Missile Defense Agency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: There are many industries that hold their employees to a code of public conduct. But, this issue especially speaks to how much the NFL is, by and large, a part of the entertainment industry. And, if there's any confusion as to why conduct would be held accountable in the workplace, just ask Kevin Spacey, or Louis CK. Agree. While I should not be, I am amazed at how people do not understand the difference between business and government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 22 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Say what? He has a LONG way to go before he catches up to the likes of Darren Sharper.. damn. That Sir is a keen wit you holster 5 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: The NFL wouldn't have to act as a judicial body if the teams felt obligated to do their own investigations and punishments. very good point. Culture of winning ??? 2 hours ago, Dalton said: Agree. While I should not be, I am amazed at how people do not understand the difference between business and government. I am not sure how to take this. But I laughed out loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: damn. That Sir is a keen wit you holster very good point. Culture of winning ??? Sort of. It's actually really good business. If the Bucs are the ones who suspend Jamies, they get the negative PR associated with ANY suspension short of a season, AND they look like the bad guy to Jameis' camp. By empowering the shield to make the call, the Bucs (their owner mostly) can say, "hey, it wasn't our decision." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 5 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: The NFL wouldn't have to act as a judicial body if the teams felt obligated to do their own investigations and punishments. ...think that some have been and are moving in that direction versus facing "Judge-Jury-Executioner" Goodell.....maybe I'm wrong, but recent arrests seem to be followed by immediate release(s)...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted July 1, 2018 Share Posted July 1, 2018 On June 30, 2018 at 2:25 PM, Fadingpain said: This odd habit of the NFL playing the role of a quasi-judicial body has to stop. Did Winston commit a crime? Then let the authorities put him in jail. If he did not, let him play. Who the F is the NFL to be handing out determinations on people's conduct one way or the other? What is this, some S. American banana republic? I get that a certain percentage of NFL players, at all times, are thugs, and this creates image problems that impedes the NFL's cash flow...but let the court system function on its own! 1. Every employer does the same thing pretty much everywhere. 2. This "odd habit" was negotiated INTO the CBA and agreed upon by the owner and the players. 3. employees can be penalized for behavior that is not in and of itself criminal. Did you not really already understand this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) On 6/26/2018 at 1:17 AM, Limeaid said: Dangle P5t5erson instead. There DBs could use practice catching balls. Sounds more of a resume for the Phish.... Maybe he could get job as counselor on Alabama staff. Take a look at how many long throws he has made. Yes has to put his whole body into it but he can burn teams deep. That is if you are interested in FACTS. Given that your interested in facts, I will clarify what I meant. The deep out route is when a reciever runs deep along the sideline and breaks out toward the sideline, not in towards the center of field. You can still burn teams deep on a variety of passes that aren't deep outs, so when I said deep out I did not mean deep passes in general, or else I would have said that he can't burn teams deep. Being able to hit a deep out is important if you want a qb who can keep the defense honest because the pattern is hard to defend in 1 on 1 coverage, so it can force teams to keep safties deep on passing downs (which opens up alot of opportinities for the offense. That is what I was talking about.Fitz's deep out is abysmal, which allows defenses to cheat by bringing safeties closer to the line of scrimmage. Teams can still be burnt deep when they do this, but the negative effect of sucking at a deep out is primarly felt on short and intermediate throws. Payton Manning did not have a very strong arm when he was in his prime, but his deep out was crazy consistent, and that consistency fed alot of his success as it opened up easy throws for him underneath. So the problem with Fitz sucking at the deep out isn't necessarily directly related to throwing deep down the field. When coordinators know that a qb sucks at a particular throw, that qb is easier, overall, to defend. There were lots of great threads on Fitz this board diagnosing the problem correctly when he was playing, btw, and that is what I was referring to. Edited July 2, 2018 by MURPHD6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 8 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: curiouser and curiouser this fellow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 ....VERY sadly, stories like this will NEVER go away......these collegians are educated with a degree (COUGH), sign their mega millions deal with and "X", get weighted down with an overstuffed wallet at 22 and don't get IT......didn't Vince Young blow through 26 mil in a few short years?.....all time classic was Latrell Spreewell turning down $14 mil a year calling it an "insult"..."I have a family to feed".....and went belly up losing everything......go figure...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: curiouser and curiouser this fellow The move had been in the works already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 that's one comment about it. Came out after folks were questioning the timing i thought ? Two Baseball Agents representing him. Wonder how much longer this story will carry on . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 And if the Bucs knew this was coming (and they should have) why did not they use this as leverage on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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