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[Incomplete Title] Sabres (21-12-5) & NHL 2018-19 - Game 39 (MSG-B) vs. BOS (20-14-4) at 7 PM ET on 12/29


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10 hours ago, JohnC said:

I'm not inherently against any deal that will make this team better. I just don't see any team giving up good young player/s without getting player/s in return. As I have previously stated I don't see Botterill making an impacting deal until the offseason. What I am strongly against is giving up meaningful assets for a rental player/s. That makes no sense to me. 

Plenzmd can not be muted. He is too loquacious to be silenced. :ph34r:

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teams give up good players all the time! Bad in the room, not going to be able to re-sign the player, desperate team/GM..wives trolling other players and wives, player diddling the GMs wife( yes rumors of that) ...lots of reasons. Who can forget this gem

 

https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/04/03/nashville-predators-troll-capitals-five-year-anniversary-filip-forsberg-trade/

 

Without that maybe Broudeau and McPhee do not get fired, Caps don't win the cup, Vegas sucks without McPhee...who knows?

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1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

teams give up good players all the time! Bad in the room, not going to be able to re-sign the player, desperate team/GM..wives trolling other players and wives, player diddling the GMs wife( yes rumors of that) ...lots of reasons. Who can forget this gem

 

https://russianmachineneverbreaks.com/2018/04/03/nashville-predators-troll-capitals-five-year-anniversary-filip-forsberg-trade/

 

Without that maybe Broudeau and McPhee do not get fired, Caps don't win the cup, Vegas sucks without McPhee...who knows?

Botteril, like every GM in the business, is constantly looking to upgrade their roster for the short and long term. If a proposed deal materializes that he believes will help this team I'm sure he would not hesitate to make a deal. However, It's my opinion that I don't see our astute GM making a beneficial short-term deal at the expense of a longer term benefit. 

 

The Forsberg link that you attached buttresses my argument to stay with your developing young players and not peddle them off. It's very improbable to the point of being non-nonexistent that another team would deal a highly rated prospect for a non-productive sluggish veteran. 

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11 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

I'm on board with a trade. Given my limited knowledge of hockey, seems as if those first round picks generally aren't contributes immediately. Seems like it could be 2-3 years before those potential picks begin to pay off. Why not trade some of the savy older vets with a pick to get in a second line center, or someone who can score some more points behind the Eichel line? 

You have to balance the need for some of those picks to be contributors on cheap contracts right around the time they’ll need to get out the checkbook for Dahlin & possibly Middlestadt/Reinhart. It’s what made Chicago successful in their run. Pay a core group of highly skilled contributors and cycle in overachieving cheap contracts around them. I’m just as excited as the next fan for playoff possibilities (and not completely opposed to moving picks) but man, you can’t miss on those trades (see Lehner, Robin)

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Good read on Rasmus Dahlin. 

 

 

 

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From the other side

Florida coach and former Sabres defenseman Bob Boughner: "You can see after a few months in the league he's already a completely different player, that much more comfortable. You got to the point where you could tell he's a great player, but now we've seen him start to dominate games. He's going to get better and better. You can really see a major difference now from a month or two ago."

 

Reigning Norris Trophy winner Victor Hedman of Tampa Bay: "He's been great. We saw he's so poised with the puck out there, plays big minutes, is physical in his play, has a great playing sense and great shot. I'm very impressed with the way he's played at 18. He's got a bright future ahead, but the thing that's interesting to me is he's a difference maker for them right now. It's a big reason they're having success."

 

* San Jose's Erik Karlsson, a player Dahlin was widely compared to heading into the draft: "It took me a lot longer to find my stride. For him, it's like he's ready to play right now and obviously doing a great job at it. That's something that I didn't have at that age. Comparing the two of us from where he is right now, he's miles ahead. He plays the game the way it's supposed to be played, with a lot of enthusiasm, fun and skill. But he's dedicated to playing the right way. He plays as tough as he can when he needs to and he's not afraid to do things that put himself out of his comfort zone, which is fun to see. For being a young guy like that, to be able to grasp all those aspects of the game is very rare and doesn't come along too often."

 

 

 
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Five out of the playoffs means no hope at this point??

 

so..... eliminated from the playoffs are...

 

NYR

CAR

NJ

PHIL

DET

FLOR

OTT

CHi

STL

ARIZ

L.A.

 

see if any of them can make it despite the horrible way the NHL dishes out a third point in a game and most games within the conference.....

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1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said:

Good read on Rasmus Dahlin. 

 

 

 

 

 

Great article. And he would be that much better if our clueless head coach wouldn’t insist on playing him on the right side. Sure, unlike many Dmen, he can play his off side if called upon, but he’s simply not nearly as good. On the left side, he is elite; on the right he’s below average. 

 

And he he should be as far from paired with Scandella as possible. 

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A few thoughts from the first period: 

 

- this team can be tough to watch at times. There is just no consistency with controlling the puck. Every possession is eratic and they seem frantic with the puck

 

-BOS seems to be clearly the better team 

 

-I get the hype on Dahlin, but he has had a number of costly turnovers in their own zone this season 

 

-Marchand has a very punchable face

 

-Go Sabres

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The Sabres were thoroughly beaten by the better and stronger team. We never had a chance. They toyed with us. 

Without Jack we are impotent. 

 

I liked the play of Ullmark and Pilut. 

 

Skinner seemed to be our only scoring threat. 

 

Dahlin is still learning and periodically struggles. Sometimes the opposing men school the young prodigy. 

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The defense and goal tending is solid this year more times than not..

 

The lines need major reworking.

 

Try Poms back up at front when eichel is back.

 

Put sheary with reinhart and thompson.

 

the 3rd line should be girgs-larson-erod

 

4th line should be sobotka-middlestadt-okposo

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11 hours ago, JohnC said:

The Sabres were thoroughly beaten by the better and stronger team. We never had a chance. They toyed with us. 

Without Jack we are impotent. 

 

I liked the play of Ullmark and Pilut. 

 

Skinner seemed to be our only scoring threat. 

 

Dahlin is still learning and periodically struggles. Sometimes the opposing men school the young prodigy. 

It was apparent from puck drop. Canadians lost, still in 8th. 

 

But season rapidly fading. Maybe a good hockey trade would make sense !

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7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

It was apparent from puck drop. Canadians lost, still in 8th. 

 

But season rapidly fading. Maybe a good hockey trade would make sense !

You are a recalcitrant! :)

 

No one is against a trade. I just don't see a deal coming to fruition that will be a difference maker. I have confidence in our GM who has a sense of what the Sabres currently are and what he wants them to be. His priority is in what he wants them to be. Striving for mediocrity is cowardly. 

 

The Sabres are going to be fighting for the last wild-card playoff spot. That's what we are and that's exactly where we are at. Don't falter. Trust the process. 

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I knew Risto had a hard shot, but not 107.5 mph hard.  That's right up there with about as fast as anyone can shoot (with modern sticks that is).

 

 

 

 

18 hours ago, JohnC said:

You are a recalcitrant! :)

 

No one is against a trade. I just don't see a deal coming to fruition that will be a difference maker. I have confidence in our GM who has a sense of what the Sabres currently are and what he wants them to be. His priority is in what he wants them to be. Striving for mediocrity is cowardly. 

 

The Sabres are going to be fighting for the last wild-card playoff spot. That's what we are and that's exactly where we are at. Don't falter. Trust the process. 

I am in favor of any move Botterill can make to help us get into the playoffs this year, as it's been a long time and I'd love to see a Sabres playoff game again.

 

But I agree the future must be the priority and I do not want to see any move that could compromise the long term vision of the organization. 

 

GMTM set us back several years with that sort of thinking.

 

We have endured a lot of pain, going back to Lindy Ruff's last couple years as HC.

 

We can suffer a little bit more, so to speak.

 

The team has zero secondary scoring and is still several key players away from being where we want to be; those players aren't going to get here in a trade deadline move anyway.

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

okay boys..roll call fro Carolina!!! I know @shrader and @eball will be there, as will son and I..anyone else? Be great to meet up for a pre-game soda if possible..have to see if my son can bail on practice first before I know whattime we can get there. 

 

I will be there, and for once perhaps we will actually meet up!  Section 105 -- you have my cell.

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