17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) It's nice to do stuff that is even better or the same as Brady, Marino, Farve and Rogers. real measurables only the greats have Now i'm excited. Ready for all the winning https://youtu.be/QWtRQMtLkWs https://youtu.be/1HC6Rmxl3Q0 Edited April 27, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 This short be a short post..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Right now , there aren't many things Allen does better than HOF NFL QBs so not sure I get the reason for this thread. Maybe he throws the football farther? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Bills Fan Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Really informative videos. I love the pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Did you watch the video they named a few and these are indisputably. These are measured things he does better or as good as those QB’s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOSH HUFF Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: It's nice to do stuff that is even better or the same as Brady, Marino, Farve and Rogers. real measurables only the greats have Now i'm excited. Ready for all the winning https://youtu.be/QWtRQMtLkWs https://youtu.be/1HC6Rmxl3Q0 ABSOLUTELY!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, JOSH HUFF said: ABSOLUTELY!! I think Bean and the Boys know what there doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) As of right now, absolutely nothing. It'd be crazy to say otherwise. Whether you like the pick or not, the premise is nonsense. Edited April 27, 2018 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 it moved. Jerry! it moved! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) So you did not watch the video because they are not highlights. That’s fine keep your self in the dark about are QB. Edited April 27, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: Did you watch the video they named a few and these are indisputably. These are measured things he does better or as good as those QB’s Just give it a rest. Kids garbage as a top end 1st rounder. Needs 2 years on the bench on a team that.....wait for it... HAS NO HISTORY OF DEVELOPING PROJECT QBs. Epic fail for us last nite. We need a new QB again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, FearLess Price said: Just give it a rest. Kids garbage as a top end 1st rounder. Needs 2 years on the bench on a team that.....wait for it... HAS NO HISTORY OF DEVELOPING PROJECT QBs. Epic fail for us last nite. We need a new QB again. Really the guy that had a draft grade of Top 15, The guy that was number 1 on many QB draft boards. The guy who was reported to be in the running for 1st over all pick in the draft. You mean that guy or are you talking about Josh Rosen the 4th QB taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: it moved. Jerry! it moved! one of my favorite Seinfeld episodes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Just give it a rest. Kids garbage as a top end 1st rounder. Needs 2 years on the bench on a team that.....wait for it... HAS NO HISTORY OF DEVELOPING PROJECT QBs. Epic fail for us last nite. We need a new QB again. Wwaahh! Epic! WAAAAHHHHHH!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Did anyone listen to Howard Simon this morning? He hates the pick. Thinks they should have taken Rosen. I don't necessarily agree with him, but those two quarterbacks will be measured against each other here in Buffalo for quite a while. I think Rosen is ahead of Allen at this point but Allen has a big upside. I like what Beane is doing, so my opinion is to trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, blacklabel said: Wwaahh! Epic! WAAAAHHHHHH!!! Do you have statistical information proving me wrong? Swiftly find the closest broom and sit and spin on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, first_and_ten said: Did anyone listen to Howard Simon this morning? He hates the pick. Thinks they should have taken Rosen. I don't necessarily agree with him, but those two quarterbacks will be measured against each other here in Buffalo for quite a while. I think Rosen is ahead of Allen at this point but Allen has a big upside. I like what Beane is doing, so my opinion is to trust the process. Who was the most NFL ready in the Rogers draft. Alex Smith was and Togers slipped. We all know Rogers had a higher ceiling. Who was reported to be the most pro ready last year. I heard it time and time again it was Buffalo’s Peterman. I will take Allen every day every time over Rosen because Allen has the highest of high ceiling that you can have. Bean drafted the QB that he had been describing the entire off season. This should not be any secret or gasp’s when he did what he said he would do. But it will be fun to compare over the next 10 years or so. But for me Allen is my guy and my number rated QB for me. I’m a very happy Bills fan today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 17 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Just give it a rest. Kids garbage as a top end 1st rounder. Needs 2 years on the bench on a team that.....wait for it... HAS NO HISTORY OF DEVELOPING PROJECT QBs. Epic fail for us last nite. We need a new QB again. Agreed, QB purgatory continues, and McBeane just lost their jobs, they just don't know it yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Rosen-not-Chosen said: Agreed, QB purgatory continues, and McBeane just lost their jobs, they just don't know it yet. please take the off ramp now you will be much happier enjoy your new team Rosen-Not-Chosen http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/forums/arizona-cardinals.4/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: Agreed, QB purgatory continues, and McBeane just lost their jobs, they just don't know it yet. Facts my ninja. 4 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: please take the off ramp now you will be much happier enjoy your new team Rosen-Not-Chosen http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/forums/arizona-cardinals.4/ Actually the Browns look to be a fun team to watch. Im dead serious too. If Haley can get that offense humming their defense is solid. Im def gonna be a 3rd teir Browns fan this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Just give it a rest. Kids garbage as a top end 1st rounder. Needs 2 years on the bench on a team that.....wait for it... HAS NO HISTORY OF DEVELOPING PROJECT QBs. Epic fail for us last nite. We need a new QB again. you do know grasshopper that the easiest way to get rest from a discussion is to stop replying to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: please take the off ramp now you will be much happier enjoy your new team Rosen-Not-Chosen http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/forum/forums/arizona-cardinals.4/ I'm a Bills fan. I have to like everything they do? Since when? And are you going to make me or something? Have you liked everything the franchise has done the last 20+ years, really? If so, that's quite sad, is it not? Edited April 27, 2018 by Rosen-not-Chosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Those are compelling videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: Really the guy that had a draft grade of Top 15, The guy that was number 1 on many QB draft boards. The guy who was reported to be in the running for 1st over all pick in the draft. You mean that guy or are you talking about Josh Rosen the 4th QB taken. Have you watched them play football? Cmon bro. Rosen is clearly better. Allen couldnt even light up the Bush leagues. Rosen has been lighting up NFL circles since the end of high school. Again in ncaa with a decent team vs better defenses that would have Allen shtting bricks. In no world is Allen better than Rosen. None. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, Rosen-not-Chosen said: I'm a Bills fan dumbass. I have to like everything they do? Since when? And are you going to make me or something? You don’t act like one you never say anything good about them. You want them fired ( coach & GM ) after getting them into the playoffs for the first time in 17 years. Just grow up and act reasonable dude. I know you did not get your Rosen but you really need to check your self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: You don’t act like one you never say anything good about them. You want them fired ( coach & GM ) after getting them into the playoffs for the first time in 17 years. Just grow up and act reasonable dude. I know you did not get your Rosen but you really need to check your self. Plz stop with the "got them into the playoff's" My goodness... They are a perennial loser franchise, what good has there been to say exactly? Edited April 27, 2018 by Rosen-not-Chosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 33 minutes ago, BillsRdue said: it moved. Jerry! it moved! To be fair that could be said about a fair amount of the Rosen crowd here. Give Allen a chance at this point. I was not really in love with any of them anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Have you watched them play football? Cmon bro. Rosen is clearly better. Allen couldnt even light up the Bush leagues. Rosen has been lighting up NFL circles since the end of high school. Again in ncaa with a decent team vs better defenses that would have Allen shtting bricks. In no world is Allen better than Rosen. None. It’s not about who’s better now, it’s who will be better In the Future. Hence Alex Smith Vs Rodgers. Smith was the most pro ready but Rogers had the highest ceiling. Hence Rosen is Smith and Allen is Rogers. Now maybe that light bulb ? just went on for you. 7 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: Plz stop with the "got them into the playoff's" My goodness... They are a perennial loser franchise, what good has there been to say exactly? That’s right until the new coach and GM showed up. So what your saying does not hold water. I’m guessing you were a rex ryan and wealey fan. Edited April 27, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 love the videos-- I am 50/50 on the pick but I will trust that the GMs and coaches know more then we do in evaluating talent. I will give him a chance. to say it was a bad pick less then 24 hours after the pick is ignorant people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, 4thandGoal said: love the videos-- I am 50/50 on the pick but I will trust that the GMs and coaches know more then we do in evaluating talent. I will give him a chance. to say it was a bad pick less then 24 hours after the pick is ignorant people. Now here is a fan that is reasonable and makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: It’s not about who’s better now, it’s who will be better In the Future. Hence Alex Smith Vs Rodgers. Smith was the most pro ready but Rogers had the highest ceiling. Hence Rosen is Smith and Allen is Rogers. Now maybe that light bulb ? just went on for you. That’s right until the new coach and GM showed up. So what your saying does not hold water. Mom guessing you were a rex ryan and wealey fan. I'm a Bills fan, that's where it stops. I'm only going to be a Pegula, McDermott, Beane, yadda fan when they can prove to me they are not inept. As it stands right now, they are inept, this pick shows that. Once again, an arrogant smarter than all other FO's group, is in charge of the Bills crapping their pants on draft day. Edited April 27, 2018 by Rosen-not-Chosen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17 Josh Allen Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: I'm a Bills fan, that's where it stops. I'm only going to be a Pegula, McDermott, Beane, yadda fan when they can prove to me they are not inept. As it stands right now, they are inept, this pick shows that. Once again, an arrogant smarter than all other FO's group, is in charge of the Bills crapping their pants on draft day. Yet again! They did prove it, 1st year In the playoffs. While all others failed during the last 17 years. You just don’t like Allen, I get it but don’t say the New GM and Coach are bad for this team and town because 90 percent of the other fans will tell you there not. Edited April 27, 2018 by Thurmanator 12074 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Thurmanator 12074 said: 90 percent of the other fans will tell you there not Ah, the 'ol pull percentages out of your ass on the internet, nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 hours ago, FearLess Price said: Do you have statistical information proving me wrong? Swiftly find the closest broom and sit and spin on it. Come off the stats. They aren't the be all end all metric. It's not what scouts, coaches and GMs focus on. They look at what a player can do, how they can reach them to best coach them, how to maximize their strengths, what can be done to adjust flaws, and how the players skills project to the NFL level. There's a place for numbers but teams don't emphasize them as much as some fans do. Looking at Allen, they're gambling that he can reach his full potential, and if he does, he's a franchise QB capable of making throws only a handful of QBs right now can make. Can't remember who said it on here last night but they said there will be so many people on this board waiting to strike whenever the kid displays anything that would reinforce their negative outlook on him instead of getting behind the team and trusting that this group of executives and coaches can build and coach this team into consistent contention. And I checked, I don't have any brooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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