So Bills fans want Eli Manning

[racketmaster]

The best player comparison for Josh Rosen is Eli Manning. We are just talking on field play here. Pro ready, plug and play type player. He will throw for a bunch of yards and touchdowns. Rosen Will also get sacked a lot and throw a bunch of picks. If you build a solid offensive line and very good defense you can win, maybe even a Super Bowl with some luck. If you have holes, your team will win 6-7 games. 

 

If we get Rosen, we are not getting one the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Why? Mobility. He lacks mobility but still has a gunslinger mentality and he has a propensity to stick throws in dangerous areas or up for grabs when pressured. The NFL game has changed and mobility is important. A qb does not have to have Tyrod Taylor like mobility but a player with at least Alex Smith/Aaron Rodgers is preferred. The ability to escape danger to make a play downfield is often needed. So, from a football perspective I have concerns about buying into a quarterback with limited mobility in a changing NFL. You may counter with, what about Brady. In order to think that will happen, i have to think that Rosen will develop into a precision passer who works the shorter routes. He would have to repress his gunslinger mentality, which is who Rosen is. This is unlikely to happen. 

 

And we have not talked about the possible character issues and more importantly the durability issues. Both of which Eli did not have and Rosen does. In the end, Rosen is a tough evaluation. His lack of mobility goes against a changing NFL game but he should still be pretty good like Eli, provided he stays healthy. 

 

I would not trade up for this type of player but I would take him if he fell to 12. Maybe move up to 10. Rosen, like Eli Manning, will not be able to carry a team and he will need as many good players around him to have success. We need those draft picks to turn into good players. 

 

 

[Bobby Hooks]

Heck yeah, I’ll take two Super Bowls. Thanks! 

[ChanticleerBillsFan]

Seen more comparisons to Matt Ryan.  Obviously comparisons don’t really matter but really haven’t seen any say Eli. Just saying, and I would take Matt Ryan

[DFT]

There’s some pretty heavy-handed and baseless opinions here, so I’ll just say I disagree with your entire perspective and move along.

 

Josh Rosen has more similarities to Peyton, than Eli.   The best comparison I’ve seen is a more pro-ready Matt Ryan.   But again...   whatevs.

Edited April 26, 2018 by DFT

[Behindenemylines]

Honestly don't see the comparison at all. And I think its easy to confuse character issues with confidence-which obviously Rosen has.  Eli comes across as just goofy but confident, no.

[billsfan60]

3 minutes ago, racketmaster said:

The best player comparison for Josh Rosen is Eli Manning. We are just talking on field play here. Pro ready, plug and play type player. He will throw for a bunch of yards and touchdowns. Rosen Will also get sacked a lot and throw a bunch of picks. If you build a solid offensive line and very good defense you can win, maybe even a Super Bowl with some luck. If you have holes, your team will win 6-7 games. 

 

If we get Rosen, we are not getting one the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Why? Mobility. He lacks mobility but still has a gunslinger mentality and he has a propensity to stick throws in dangerous areas or up for grabs when pressured. The NFL game has changed and mobility is important. A qb does not have to have Tyrod Taylor like mobility but a player with at least Alex Smith/Aaron Rodgers is preferred. The ability to escape danger to make a play downfield is often needed. So, from a football perspective I have concerns about buying into a quarterback with limited mobility in a changing NFL. You may counter with, what about Brady. In order to think that will happen, i have to think that Rosen will develop into a precision passer who works the shorter routes. He would have to repress his gunslinger mentality, which is who Rosen is. This is unlikely to happen. 

 

And we have not talked about the possible character issues and more importantly the durability issues. Both of which Eli did not have and Rosen does. In the end, Rosen is a tough evaluation. His lack of mobility goes against a changing NFL game but he should still be pretty good like Eli, provided he stays healthy. 

 

I would not trade up for this type of player but I would take him if he fell to 12. Maybe move up to 10. Rosen, like Eli Manning, will not be able to carry a team and he will need as many good players around him to have success. We need those draft picks to turn into good players. 

 

 

Soooo... whatchagonnado???? Darnold gone 1st, all the rest have equal or worse warts than Rosen and we are sitting with McCarron and Peterman.

[KDIGGZ]

Won 2 super bowls, Super bowl MVP, future HOF

 

/End thread and delete your account this is embarrassing

[Green Lightning]

So if Rosen = 2 Super Bowls while being a Patriot killer, I think I can deal with his lack of mobility. 

Edited April 26, 2018 by Green Lightning

[{::'KayCeeS::}]

ELI MANNING HAS WON TWO SUPERBOWLS.

 

honestly.

[oldmanfan]

The character thing has been debunked by his teammates and his college coach.  Enough already.

[Seanbillsfan2206]

Comparisons are stupid. But yes I’d love to have Eli Manning. Go back to bed and try again. You can do better than this 

[aristocrat]

Two rings are starts every game for 15 years z ok

[elltrain22]

Rosen would be AMAZING!!!! I'd be happy for a million reasons!! All I am going to do today is hope for that!!

 

If we draft Allen, I'll be happy about that too. Glad we won't have to wait much longer!

[twoandfourteen]

15 minutes ago, racketmaster said:

The best player comparison for Josh Rosen is Eli Manning. We are just talking on field play here. Pro ready, plug and play type player. He will throw for a bunch of yards and touchdowns. Rosen Will also get sacked a lot and throw a bunch of picks. If you build a solid offensive line and very good defense you can win, maybe even a Super Bowl with some luck. If you have holes, your team will win 6-7 games. 

 

If we get Rosen, we are not getting one the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Why? Mobility. He lacks mobility but still has a gunslinger mentality and he has a propensity to stick throws in dangerous areas or up for grabs when pressured. The NFL game has changed and mobility is important. A qb does not have to have Tyrod Taylor like mobility but a player with at least Alex Smith/Aaron Rodgers is preferred. The ability to escape danger to make a play downfield is often needed. So, from a football perspective I have concerns about buying into a quarterback with limited mobility in a changing NFL. You may counter with, what about Brady. In order to think that will happen, i have to think that Rosen will develop into a precision passer who works the shorter routes. He would have to repress his gunslinger mentality, which is who Rosen is. This is unlikely to happen. 

 

And we have not talked about the possible character issues and more importantly the durability issues. Both of which Eli did not have and Rosen does. In the end, Rosen is a tough evaluation. His lack of mobility goes against a changing NFL game but he should still be pretty good like Eli, provided he stays healthy. 

 

I would not trade up for this type of player but I would take him if he fell to 12. Maybe move up to 10. Rosen, like Eli Manning, will not be able to carry a team and he will need as many good players around him to have success. We need those draft picks to turn into good players. 

 

 

 

Tom Brady is basically Randall Cunningham out there. 

 

Matt Ryan looks like Barry Sanders in the pocket. 

 

Peyton Manning could have been a punt returner with the wheels he had. 

 

You have a bad take here and you should feel bad. 

[racketmaster]

1 minute ago, billsfan60 said:

Soooo... whatchagonnado???? Darnold gone 1st, all the rest have equal or worse warts than Rosen and we are sitting with McCarron and Peterman.

First, I offer as much as I can to get Darnold. I think Darnold will be an elite player down the road and is more in line with the mobility the NFL is looking for from their quarterbacks. 

 

If if there are no takers, then I wait. Darnold will be off the board to Cleveland. Jets get Mayfield. Nobody else takes a qb until Miami unless a team trades up. That leaves Allen and Rosen. Allen has a higher upside than Rosen. If he hits his ceiling then you have a Big Ben. Of course he could also bust at a higher rate. There are 3 teams (MIA, ARZ, BUF)  seemingly desperate for a qb. 2 of the 4 remain and a game of chicken begins. I would wait to see if one of those two falls to 12. Monitor the teams and when there is only one left then consider a move up a few slots. 

 

If we lose out, we can always draft Rudolph or Falk.  I think those are similar style players with lesser arms. 

[McNubbins]

Get it done OBD.

[BillsFan17]

So I want a player i like, but someone compared him to another player, so forget everything i like about that player because apparently hes the next so and so.

[racketmaster]

1 minute ago, twoandfourteen said:

 

Tom Brady is basically Randall Cunningham out there. 

 

Matt Ryan looks like Barry Sanders in the pocket. 

 

Peyton Manning could have been a punt returner with the wheels he had. 

 

You have a bad take here and you should feel bad. 

It’s an honest opinion. And I am comparing Rosen to Eli not Matt Ryan or Peyton. Rosen’s play is more reckless, like Eli. It is 4 tds and 3ints. It’s taking sacks because he is trying to hold onto the ball to make a play. 

 

I just get the sense that many fans think they are getting Aaron Rodgers with Rosen because they may have similar personalities. But Rosen is nothing like Rodgers as far as style of play. Eli has won 2 Superbowls, but he had a lot of help and some luck along the way. Duplicating that may be difficult. 

 

If Rosen was Eli as far as durability and character, I say go for it and trade up. But the added risk concerns me and I would be more cautious in trading up for him. 

[Bobby Hooks]

6 minutes ago, racketmaster said:

It’s an honest opinion. And I am comparing Rosen to Eli not Matt Ryan or Peyton. Rosen’s play is more reckless, like Eli. It is 4 tds and 3ints. It’s taking sacks because he is trying to hold onto the ball to make a play. 

 

I just get the sense that many fans think they are getting Aaron Rodgers with Rosen because they may have similar personalities. But Rosen is nothing like Rodgers as far as style of play. Eli has won 2 Superbowls, but he had a lot of help and some luck along the way. Duplicating that may be difficult. 

 

If Rosen was Eli as far as durability and character, I say go for it and trade up. But the added risk concerns me and I would be more cautious in trading up for him. 

Oh Eli needed help to play football? Weird. Most qbs play all of the positions themselves. 

 

And what do you think will happen when the Bills have 90 mil to spend in free agency next year? Pocket it? 

 

 

Edited April 26, 2018 by Bobby Hooks

[BillsFan17]

6 minutes ago, racketmaster said:

It’s an honest opinion. And I am comparing Rosen to Eli not Matt Ryan or Peyton. Rosen’s play is more reckless, like Eli. It is 4 tds and 3ints. It’s taking sacks because he is trying to hold onto the ball to make a play. 

 

I just get the sense that many fans think they are getting Aaron Rodgers with Rosen because they may have similar personalities. But Rosen is nothing like Rodgers as far as style of play. Eli has won 2 Superbowls, but he had a lot of help and some luck along the way. Duplicating that may be difficult. 

 

If Rosen was Eli as far as durability and character, I say go for it and trade up. But the added risk concerns me and I would be more cautious in trading up for him. 

In regards to their college numbers, Rosen would fall in the middle of Eli and Rodgers in terms of INTs per attempt. So, I fail to see how that makes him more "reckless."