dollars 2 donuts Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) Change up here before the draft. I have stated elsewhere on TSW that I badly want Shady to stay a Bill for at least the last two years of his deal to hit the 12,000 yard mark, a milestone no Bill has ever hit. I have grown to love this guy as a back on this team and to me, and I believe to many of you, he IS a Buffalo Bill and even the face of the Buffalo Bills, therefore I really hope to have him stretch his achievements in the red, white and blue as much as possible. When you start to look at his numbers as a Bill they really are impressive. Even with the injuries in year 1 and missing the last game in year two he has 3,300 yards rushing and 1,096 yards receiving (141 receptions) for 27 TDs, with an average of 102 yards rushing and receiving in each of his 43 games. Are they mind blowing? No. However, think of the Bills teams he's played on and how important he is to their offense and their overall success. He is currently the Bills 8th all time leading rusher and with an average season of 1,150 yards he will be fourth. If he can maintain his average from the last two years he will pass Freddy for 3rd all time on the Bills rushing list at the end of 2019. I hope he can at least get to the end of his contract with the Bills with at least, 5,700 yards rushing, 250 receptions (1,800 yards receiving?) and maybe 50 TDs and (please) another playoff appearance with his first playoff victory. I think he has shown a fondness for Western New York and I would like his time here to continue to be memorable. What say you? ...Oh, and 8 days and counting. EDIT: BTW, given the numbers I've stated above I think he gets into not only the Bills WoF, but the NFL HoF as I believe that 12,000 yards rushing is the new sort of standard for entry into the Hall (and I know guys have gotten in with less, but I am just saying). Edited April 19, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Honestly, our wall of fame seems almost too easy to get on. It should only be reserved for all time Bills greats. Shady wouldn’t be here long enough for that consideration imo. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honestly, our wall of fame seems almost too easy to get on. It should only be reserved for all time Bills greats. Shady wouldn’t be here long enough for that consideration imo. Biscuit, that is an honest opinion. Seriously, thank you man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I think he needs probably 2 more seasons of solid production and 3 here total plus another playoff berth to make it. He is a sublime talent and great player/leader just need more to get up there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP's Voice Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 For me, it isn't as much of his statistics as it is his impact to the organization (i.e. not just production on the field). Shady is borderline HOFer if he plays another 3-5 years, but I would throw Freddy on the wall before Shady. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 As a RB, I think he will have to murder at least 3 people at the same time to get on there..... 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Probably would need to have either at least 3 more 1000 rushing yard seasons or lead us to a historic Playoff victory with him as the unquestioned team offensive MVP of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 If he's here another 2-3 years he will be remembered as one of the best Bills running backs ever. Just not immortalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: As a RB, I think he will have to murder at least 3 people at the same time to get on there..... Sheesh dude.....SMFH..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, JP's Voice said: For me, it isn't as much of his statistics as it is his impact to the organization (i.e. not just production on the field). Shady is borderline HOFer if he plays another 3-5 years, but I would throw Freddy on the wall before Shady. He'll probably cement his HOF status this season. As for WOF, that's iffy. He's only been with the team for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: As a RB, I think he will have to murder at least 3 people at the same time to get on there..... Ya know what, I really want to hear more peoples' opinions, but WEO may have just broken the thread right there. Brilliant, Sir. Brilliant. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Honestly, our wall of fame seems almost too easy to get on. It should only be reserved for all time Bills greats. Shady wouldn’t be here long enough for that consideration imo. Agreed. A lot of people want Fred Jackson but truthfully he isn't even in the Top 5 RB's the team has had at this point. I get he is loved community wise but doesn't his name up their discredit the accomplishments of guys like Thurman, Cookie, and yes OJ (football field accomplishments)? If Shady stays another 3 years and stays around his current pace shouldn't he be up there before Fred? In general I know the drought provided very few high points and we like to romanticize the 90s teams to an unhealthy point because of it, but I would like to see a little higher standard for excellence. The only two players I really think from the last two decades that even deserve a chance to be up would by Kyle Williams and Eric Wood because they played at a pro bowl caliber level and both are in the talks to be top 3-4 ever for their position team wise. Additionally on good teams like the 1990s Bills those guys would've received far more media attention for their excellence. BUT if you said neither I wouldn't have an issue with the standard being higher either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) A solid 2-3 more years with the team should do it. But at the end of his career, I think he'll still consider himself an Eagle. So, maybe not. Edited April 18, 2018 by LeGOATski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 Additionally, to some of you do you feel Freddy should go up over Shady even if Shady passes him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 about 5 more years #1 - thomas -11,938 yards #2 - simpson - 10,183 #3 - fred - 5,646 #9 - shady - 3,300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 6 minutes ago, JP's Voice said: For me, it isn't as much of his statistics as it is his impact to the organization (i.e. not just production on the field). Shady is borderline HOFer if he plays another 3-5 years, but I would throw Freddy on the wall before Shady. But if you compare Fred to the rest of the players on the WOF his career fails in comparison even with the community aspect. I think he is romanticized because he represented the fans during the drought which is great, but the WOF is for playing excellence IMO not being a great guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Just now, corta765 said: But if you compare Fred to the rest of the players on the WOF his career fails in comparison even with the community aspect. I think he is romanticized because he represented the fans during the drought which is great, but the WOF is for playing excellence IMO not being a great guy. I agree. Good player and great guy, but not a WOF'er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Nothing....he shouldn't be. I think Shady has been absolutely the best Offensive player since he arrived. And despite a little bit of a rough start to his public persona in Buffalo, which is understandable considering he was blindsided by the trade, he's been a terrific community member as well. The whole "incident" aside, he's been a good dude for the team. But IMHO, the WOF players are reserved for guys like Bruce, Tasker, Jimbo, Thurman and the others, who played nearly their entire career in Buffalo and made significant contributions to the team and community for many years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Additionally, to some of you do you feel Freddy should go up over Shady even if Shady passes him? If Shady has two more 1000 yd years and is here for 3 years mixed with another playoff berth then Shady goes on the WOF. People I think understate how freakin good and important Shady was last year to killing the drought and had we beat JAX his performance while injured would've been legendary. Otherwise neither should be on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FappyTheClown Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Spend more time helping elderly women cross the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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