ColoradoBills Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 11:16 AM, billykay said: It may have been his second season, but it was still his first few games that we are talking about. They won two of those games and would have probably won the Playoff game had not his RB fumbled while trying to use clock near the end of the game. From what I remember, the Pittsburgh pass rush was all over him the whole game. Tough position for a kid in his first playoff game. No need to be snarky re: my mentioning of Peyton Manning. I was just trying to show an analagous situation regarding even future Hall of Fame QBs. Of course, I thing that you knew that. Just to add a detail about AJ's season loss. Game was played against the Denver Broncos (who went on to win the SB) in Denver. Bengals loss in OT 17-20. AJ had a pretty good stat line, 22 of 35 (63%) for 200 yards, 1-TD 0-INT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: Just to add a detail about AJ's season loss. Game was played against the Denver Broncos (who went on to win the SB) in Denver. Bengals loss in OT 17-20. AJ had a pretty good stat line, 22 of 35 (63%) for 200 yards, 1-TD 0-INT. Why do you suppose the demand for his services was so low once he hit the market as a free agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Who knows...no way of knowing how he fits Daboll's offense, no way of knowing exactly how good he is over the course of a whole season because he has never started a whole season. There is no way of knowing. Chances are it's probably not very likely but we just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Why do you suppose the demand for his services was so low once he hit the market as a free agent? That's a good question. I think a lot of things. First, most important is his limited play. I know Jimmy G. got paid but I believe that is different from AJ. Second, the QB market for these type of QB's got out of control $ wise the last few years and a lot of teams got burned. Third, after Elway blinked following the Bill's trade up and signed Keenum (knowing he wasn't getting Cousins), that started a FA QB frenzy which started the most experienced guys going first. The wave got capped off with the Jets signing 2 of the FA's. Fourth, this is my "speculation" but I think AJ and his agent started out asking for more than teams were willing to pay after what has happened recently with some of these signing. I think this caused the Bill's to be in the right spot at the right time to sign him cheap. I don't know how he will "pan out" but it will make for an interesting camp and preseason. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 ...kid was a steady Eddie game manager at 'Bama, nothing flashy but a cerebral and available in the 5th ...forget the hindsight crap about where he is now.......supporting cast and coaching are key elements.....we passed on Wilson in the 3rd......or even the Dalton kid in the 2nd who had a decent career at TCU......why are draft(s) seemingly centered around much greater needs than the QB spot seeing we've done so well post Kelly (COUGH)?....why not a late flyer on a QB who could be welcomed into the "OBD Mecca of QB Development"?....could there possibly be a better training ground??............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Depends if he can do what Tyrod did... if he can just manage the game...& the defense is good...yea we're a playoffs team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Who knows...no way of knowing how he fits Daboll's offense, no way of knowing exactly how good he is over the course of a whole season because he has never started a whole season. There is no way of knowing. Chances are it's probably not very likely but we just don't know. sure you know. Bills picked him up and dumped TT. Bills have faith the kid can play ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills757 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 On 3/31/2018 at 2:10 PM, The Red King said: Tough question to answer. My gut is telling me we're looking at 9-7 again...but what I'm really unsure of is if it will be enough to get in. I...I'm going to say 'yes', and rather then backing in, I have a hunch a key Week 17 victory, perhaps an upset, gets them in. Last year's team overachieved, yes. But let's not overlook the positives of that. Be it coaching, heart, or a combination of the two, they did more then looked possible on paper. Nothing saying with the same coach and changing culture that doesn't happen again and this team pulls a few more surprises. Tyrod is an anomoly, the ultimate baseline. He is a die that only rolls '3' or '4'. He kept some games close, but when the game neared the end if we were behind he couldn't give us the high rolls we needed. He took us as far as be could, and will do well in Cleveland, where 8-8 would be adored. We hit TT's ceiling, and when Cleveland finally does, their rookie should be ready. That being said, we don't know what AJ will bring. There is a very limited body of work to go by, and it doesn't include Bills' players, coaches, or schemes. What he does give is a chance to be better then TT and the risk of being worse. If nothing else, I'm hoping he's willing to throw deep. Keep in mind McCoy was running uphill. Having a star running back and a QB that only throws short makes defense easier. You put eleven players, a couple cheerleaders and an assistant coach in the box and dare TT to throw deep. Hopefully AJ, if he's playing, will at least stretch out the D and make the offense less predictable. For every game we barely won thanks to turnovers or such, there were games we barely lost, such as the Panthers and Bengels. I think we're going to gain and lose ground in equal measure this year, but our long-term outlook will look better. And, if nothing else, I think it will be entertaining. Your comments regarding Taylor’s inability to throw deep is laughable. When he had guys that could actually stretch the field, he threw one of the nicest deep balls in the league. Who on this team is the deep threat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) On 4/1/2018 at 6:08 PM, Bills757 said: Your comments regarding Taylor’s inability to throw deep is laughable. When he had guys that could actually stretch the field, he threw one of the nicest deep balls in the league. Who on this team is the deep threat? in 2017 it’s not that he couldn’t, it’s that he didn’t from the pocket. He’d scramble around “keeping the play alive”. Edited April 3, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, Bills757 said: Your comments regarding Taylor’s inability to throw deep is laughable. When he had guys that could actually stretch the field, he threw one of the nicest deep balls in the league. Who on this team is the deep threat? Tyrod Taylor had one of the best long throws in the NFL during his career... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: sure you know. Bills picked him up and dumped TT. Bills have faith the kid can play ball. Who cares what they think. The only thing that matters is the result on the field. I think I just won Powerball the other day, does that mean they owe me $540 million? Edited April 1, 2018 by matter2003 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Who cares what they think. The only thing that matters is the result on the field. I think I just won Powerball the other day, does that mean they owe me $540 million? If true, it means we're related... "Where 'av ya been all mi life, dah????" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills757 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: It’s not that he couldn’t, it’s that he didn’t from the pocket. He’d scramble around “keeping the play alive”. Revisionist history at its best. Hopefully we can strike gold with the draft because AJ isn’t the answer in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 3 hours ago, ShadyBillsFan said: It’s not that he couldn’t, it’s that he didn’t from the pocket. He’d scramble around “keeping the play alive”. Like this? Or this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eWID8spG3P4 Or this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FmrPrqqTiHw Or my personal favorite? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-cTNqwZ5gkY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABuffaloFan Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 3/29/2018 at 9:39 AM, Looper said: Assuming we don't get one of the big 4 QBs, are we a playoff team with A.J. ? Or are we the 2017 Browns and the #1 seed to get Drew Luck, Jacob Eason, or Jarrett Stidham next year ? Is it worth even using a draft pick on Rudolph or Jackson ? Yes to McCarron, already a 2 time NCAA champ, already kept Cincy in a playoff race and almost won the playoff game. Yes Bills draft Falk and Lauletta to compete as backup with Peterman. On March 12, 2015, Taylor signed a three-year, $3.35 million contract with the Buffalo Bills. He was signed to be the starter. McCarron, 2 years for 10 million and people calling him a backup. He signed the type of contract that a QB with 4 games experience in NFL get that is expected to become the starter. That is not a bad payday. When he does succeed Buffalo will have new contract in hand. 3 hours ago, matter2003 said: Who cares what they think. The only thing that matters is the result on the field. I think I just won Powerball the other day, does that mean they owe me $540 million? Same can be said for any QB drafted. At least McCarron hs 36-4 record, 2 Championships, 2-1 NFL record with a playoff start he almost won and 4 NFL training camps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, reddogblitz said: Like this? Or this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eWID8spG3P4 Or this? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FmrPrqqTiHw Or my personal favorite? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-cTNqwZ5gkY FTR - I was referring to 2017. You found 3 instances where he did it over 3 full seasons Where the ones where he didn’t?? For example - the Thompson play where Thompson was wide open - and with a catch a TD could have been had? Edited April 2, 2018 by ShadyBillsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 If Buffalo can fill some holes with upgrades at linebacker and WR, I think it's very possible to make the playoffs with AJ McCarron. I don't know that they can be significantly better than last season however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 1 hour ago, TigerJ said: If Buffalo can fill some holes with upgrades at linebacker and WR, I think it's very possible to make the playoffs with AJ McCarron. I don't know that they can be significantly better than last season however. My expectations of McCarron are high, but it would not surprise me If the thought process behind bringing A J into Buffalo is much how you just described it in my humble opinion. Carefully calculated with a possible upside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I think they just tried to get the best FA QB they could afford, while expecting to draft the best guy they can get access to in the draft. I don't think there needs to be deep analysis behind the decision by the Bills, or about the decision, by the fans. It was the obvious way to proceed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamboBill Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 On 3/29/2018 at 8:39 PM, Looper said: Assuming we don't get one of the big 4 QBs, are we a playoff team with A.J. ? Or are we the 2017 Browns and the #1 seed to get Drew Luck, Jacob Eason, or Jarrett Stidham next year ? Is it worth even using a draft pick on Rudolph or Jackson ? Obviously it is too early to tell, but I predict we will be some place around 5-11 or 6-10. Nothing against A,J, he will open the passing game bit, but I see him as not being strong armed and could likely be turnover prone. Turnover differential (TD) was our biggest advantage last year, the rest of our statS were rather abysmal. Say what you want about Tyrol but he protected the football. Take (TD) away and we lose a lot more games. Add to that we have holes all over our roster and no depth at our most productive position (RB). I don't mean to sound negative but I think 2018 is a step back year, 2019 we will see better the vision for team, and if all goes well, serious contender by 2020. Thus, this is the perfect time to draft a QB for development .... one with a high ceiling. I prefer Darnold but that is unlikely to happen. so I hope we rake a high ceiling guy like J. Allen or Lamar Jackson ...we do 't need NFL ready ... that is what AJ is for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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