IgotBILLStopay Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) Given the price paid by the Jets (which was too much IMHO), just including draft picks from this year is never going to clinch it in a trade-up with the Giants. Clearly the sticking point will be the inclusion of next year's #1. I am wondering if a trade like this will get the job done. Bills trade #12, #22, # 53, #56, next year's #1 and Jerry Hughes for #2, and OBJ. Giants get a replacement for JPP. And anyway, they are shopping OBJ. By trading him to the Bills, they at least keep him out of the NFC. Bills, besides getting their QB of the future (not named Darnold) make up for their loss of extra draft capital by instantly turning their wideout weakness into strength with OBJ. With the abundance of cap space next year, they can easily structure an OBJ extension. And given OBJ's price, it is not like they have a steal going forward with him. It is not like the last four years. It gives them considerable Cap breathing room as well. Edited March 27, 2018 by IgotBILLStopay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I was actually thinking the same thing...but I wouldn't include next year's #1. We'd be taking a big contract off the Giants' hands, and that's worth something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dkollidas Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I’ll get about as creative as not trading for Beckham Jr. I understand he’s an immense talent. But all I see and hear is him talking about himself. The team (nor I personally), want that on my team. They just spent a year ditching most of the guys they felt had that type of attitude, or the injury history that Beckham has as well (see: Dareus, Marcell and Watkins, Sammy). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I love that trade. I can see Bean doing something creative like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I don’t want that dude here. Don’t like his health, attitude, or contract he will want. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan5121 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 (edited) While I’m sure it won’t happen, that would certainly make for an entertaining season. We would likely have a fun offense that would put up a few 300 yard passing games (normal for most teams, rare for us). With that being said, I’m curious if anyone else felt this way last year. We made the playoffs and won 9 games, but was last year perhaps one of the more boring seasons we have had in a while? I feel like the Tampa and Oakland games were the most entertaining (sure we won so that helped), but in 7 other wins, it was just blah. We won so that was great and I always root for wins. But if we had an offense that gave us hope, I almost feel like 6-7 wins will actually be more entertaining than the 9 we had last year. Edited March 27, 2018 by billsfan5121 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherChazz Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Getting to #2 would likely require the 3 #1's, and probably a second or two, so essentially you're just looking to do a straight trade of Jerry for OBJ. I think they'll get better offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Just to complete the thought use our 3rd rounders this year to draft an ILB (say a Darius Leonard or a Malik Jefferson) and an offensive lineman (say Connor Williams / Martinas Rankin). And get a backup RB / CB / STers in the later rounds / UDFAs making it as complete a football lineup as we have seen in recent years. The only cost to this plan is no #1 next year - but I feel it will be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 You going to pay him the 16+ mil a year he wants? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Sounds good. Won’t ever happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Nice idea, but it's not going to happen. The only way OBJ will see New Era Field will be in another team's uniform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 McDermott and Beane would not want him on the team. /thread 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTheTrust Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 They quickly shipped of Sammy because behind the scenes, very quietly, he wasn't in line with their new culture. But OBJ will be? Love the talent, not seeing them contradicting themselves on this one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 trading for OBJ is contingent on him signing a long term deal with your team, otherwise he won't step foot on the field. do you really think he is signing long term to play in BUFFALO with AJ MCCARRON as the QB? get real Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: McDermott and Beane would not want him on the team. /thread Beckham doesn’t have a video half as bad as Zay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Just now, C.Biscuit97 said: Beckham doesn’t have a video half as bad as Zay. Talented, but oft injured with off the field issues. They aren't going to trade for him and spend big dollars on a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 I don't think he's the type of player McDermott wants here. In addition it seems based on what he's said that Beane wants to have a balanced roster with regards to salary cap implications. OBJ wants to be the highest paid receiver in the NFL and he might get it ... but not in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Just now, Virgil said: You going to pay him the 16+ mil a year he wants? gotta break an egg to make an omelette kinda thinking. We will have a few years where we underpay the QB and can afford to pay arguably a top 3 wideout 16 mill a year, no? Heck, Sammy got 16 a year and Robinson 14 a year man. OBJ worth 16 a year easily - just Giants are so capped out partly due to Eli's, Olivier Vernon's and Solder's salaries. 8 minutes ago, ProcessTheTrust said: They quickly shipped of Sammy because behind the scenes, very quietly, he wasn't in line with their new culture. But OBJ will be? Love the talent, not seeing them contradicting themselves on this one though. a little revisionist history, no? I didnt hear anything bad about Sammy's attitude during McBeane's time. The option decline was primarily due to his inability to stay healthy - nothing about attitude man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Creative? Ok Hughes, 22 and 65 to the Giants for Beckham and a 4th/5th. Package Beckham, 12, and our 2 2nds to Cleveland for pick #1 and Josh Gordon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, kdiggz said: trading for OBJ is contingent on him signing a long term deal with your team, otherwise he won't step foot on the field. do you really think he is signing long term to play in BUFFALO with AJ MCCARRON as the QB? get real If you dont believe the #2 will snag you a QB people want to play with, you shdnt even be thinking of a GIants trade no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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