PIZ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) Little old, but interesting discussion. Darnold first QB taken. Then Allen. Darhorse is Lamar Jackson. Does not like Josh Rosen. Likes him as a passer, doesn't mind his personality, but doesn't think he can protect himself in the pocket. Compares Rosen in the pocket (injuries) to Sam Bradford. https://vokalnow.com/audio/1575 Edited March 25, 2018 by PIZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) It's what I dislike about Rosen the most. Statuesque. Edited March 25, 2018 by Boatdrinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It's what I dislike about Rosen the most. Statuesque. Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, and Tom Brady are three of the least athletic, most "statuesque" passers I can ever remember. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It's what I dislike about Rosen the most. Statuesque. They said that about Brady too and Rosen is 10x the athlete Brady is. Would have been a pro tennis player if he wanted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It's what I dislike about Rosen the most. Statuesque. A lot of those “statuesque” QBs are the best of all time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 "Statuesque" qbs can still sometimes be good in the pocket...a step up here, a shimmy there, good peripheral vision. Hopefully Rosen can improve in that area (if he's a bill). Rob Johnson was terrible at moving in the pocket and sensing pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Logic said: Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, and Tom Brady are three of the least athletic, most "statuesque" passers I can ever remember. Marino had an unbelievably quick release, even with his " all over the place" mechanics. Brady is slow , but has worked on it and improved throughout his career. It's not that I think Rosen doesn't have a chance to be successful in the NFL. He does It's just the part of his game i dislike the most. Compared to the highly rated QBs in this draft, hes not very mobile. The discussion was about Rosen, not other QBs that lacked mobility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 I loved Mike Mayock initially on NFL networks. Through the years, either his plate has gotten too full or he doesn't grind watching tape like he used too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 6 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: A lot of those “statuesque” QBs are the best of all time. That's not what was being discussed. As stated, it's just my least favorite part of Rosen's game, and a consideration. Drew Bledsoe was statuesque and the game passed him by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Concussions with Rosen scare me more than a little. The film looks good, Rich Eisen interview was nice, but two concussions just last year? Injuries happen, but concussions are at another level for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Marino had an unbelievably quick release, even with his " all over the place" mechanics. Brady is slow , but has worked on it and improved throughout his career. It's not that I think Rosen doesn't have a chance to be successful in the NFL. He does It's just the part of his game i dislike the most. Compared to the highly rated QBs in this draft, hes not very mobile. The discussion was about Rosen, not other QBs that lacked mobility. Even though he is taller than Drew Brees. Rosen's ability to process information, make all the throws, and threaten the whole field vertically and horizontally reminds me of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, NickelCity said: "Statuesque" qbs can still sometimes be good in the pocket...a step up here, a shimmy there, good peripheral vision. Hopefully Rosen can improve in that area (if he's a bill). Rob Johnson was terrible at moving in the pocket and sensing pressure. Exactly, And Johnson was a good athlete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Irwin James..is NFL.com for real with this garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bag of Milk said: I loved Mike Mayock initially on NFL networks. Through the years, either his plate has gotten too full or he doesn't grind watching tape like he used too. He sounds like a company man now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 1 minute ago, horned dogs said: Exactly, And Johnson was a good athlete. He was. Just played the game a half step slow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Augie said: Concussions with Rosen scare me more than a little. The film looks good, Rich Eisen interview was nice, but two concussions just last year? Injuries happen, but concussions are at another level for me. Scare the crap out of me. It has to be a significant factor in evaluating him...If you move up to take him you have to view it as a 10-year investment in a player. Rosen's concussions make it like a bitcoin investment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 he comes from a wealthy family. He doesn't have the financial urgency to keep playing if he gets more concussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rad Likes The Bills Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 LAMAR JACKSON AT 12! MAYFIELD AT 6! ROSEN AT 2! Its really that simple. Just depends on where we end up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 Darnold, Mayfield, or Jackson. These are the 3 QBs I believe we should target. The fact that Mayock likes Allen so much is a bit disconcerting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 25, 2018 Share Posted March 25, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, jr1 said: he comes from a wealthy family. He doesn't have the financial urgency to keep playing if he gets more concussions Honestly, I hope you don’t take this wrong, but because his father is a surgeon does not mean he doesn’t have to work for the rest of his life or have any personal drive. He’s not a trust fund billionaire as far as we know. Daddy is a doctor. Johnny Football had his own oil money trust as I recall, but he was also an addict and a different person. My wife came from a “well off” family, and she may be the hardest working person I know. People seem to resent successful people sometimes. Peyton and Eli were not out of the ghetto. It’s about the individual and their personal drive. Sorry, mini-rant over. EDIT: If he DOES have concussion issues, I would hope he stops playing regardless of his families financial status. Edited March 25, 2018 by Augie 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts