Inigo Montoya Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: But they don’t think they have their future qb or they wouldn’t have signed him to a 1 year deal. Fair point, but if they had signed Bridgwater to a franchise QB contract wouldn't that tip their hand that they may not be in the QB market this year? He's under contract right now. What's to stop the Jets from renegotiating his contract after the draft to lock him down for a few more years for starter money. Bridgewater would jump at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Fair point, but if they had signed Bridgwater to a franchise QB contract wouldn't that tip their hand that they may not be in the QB market this year? He's under contract right now. What's to stop the Jets from renegotiating his contract after the draft to lock him down for a few more years for starter money. Bridgewater would jump at that. So they only signed Teddy to a one year deal so they could be sneaky in the draft? ? I realize that we’re talking about the jets but I think you’re overthinking this just a bit 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: So they only signed Teddy to a one year deal so they could be sneaky in the draft? ? I realize that we’re talking about the jets but I think you’re overthinking this just a bit Just playing Devil's Advocate. Odds are that the Jets are going QB........ But why on earth would they come out and admit that fact is beyond me. Makes me wonder if something else is afoot. Maybe they fell in love with Barkley and they just don't think he will make it to 6. Maybe they watch Game of Thrones and are going into full blown Lannister mode to try and get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Fair point, but if they had signed Bridgwater to a franchise QB contract wouldn't that tip their hand that they may not be in the QB market this year? He's under contract right now. What's to stop the Jets from renegotiating his contract after the draft to lock him down for a few more years for starter money. Bridgewater would jump at that. You're delusional. This whole thread is ridiculous. No one is treating Bridgewater as a franchise QB, that's why he signed what is an awful contract by QB standards. If no one else was offering more than 500k for 1 year, he is clearly not the plan and they won't restructure after the draft. Secondly, after making that trade, they won't convince anyone they aren't after a QB. Giants won't trade with them, Browns won't trade 1. They made a decision they are fine with any of their top 3 QB prospects in this draft. The smoke screen isn't about position for them, it's about which QB. The whole premise of your theory is just dumb. Edited March 20, 2018 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Johnny Hammersticks said: Possible, but not likely. As a previous poster suggested, why would they give up so much for anything other than a QB? I agree it makes little sense, but if you’re stupid enough to take a RB at 3, you’re stupid enough to trade up for the privilege, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: Just playing Devil's Advocate. Odds are that the Jets are going QB........ But why on earth would they come out and admit that fact is beyond me. Makes me wonder if something else is afoot. Maybe they fell in love with Barkley and they just don't think he will make it to 6. Maybe they watch Game of Thrones and are going into full blown Lannister mode to try and get him. So this was the basis of your thread? I can't believe I wasted my time. Edited March 20, 2018 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: You're delusional. This whole thread is ridiculous. No one is treating Bridgewater as a franchise QB, that's why he signed what is an awful contract by QB standards. If no one else was offering more than 500k for 1 year, he is clearly not the plan and they won't restructure after the draft. Secondly, after making that trade, they won't convince anyone they aren't after a QB. Giants won't trade with them, Browns won't trade 1. They made a decision they are fine with any of their top 3 QB prospects in this draft. The smoke screen isn't about position for them, it's about which QB. The first two words of this thread's title are, "What if" I'm not saying that they are taking a QB, I'm simply wondering why they would tell everyone that they are taking a QB when it can only hurt them to do so. You say that the Browns and Giants are not trading out of their spots. I haven't heard that anywhere. To the contrary, I've heard the GM for the Giants say on TV that he will listen to any offer. I don't think there is a chance in Hell the Giants would trade picks with the Jets because of their unique relationship, just like we would never trade a draft pick with the Jets or Patriots. I think this thread is fun and posits a credible question. Why would an NFL GM tell the world how they are going to draft? What are the possible reasons for that? In this instance, the possibility that they are targeting Barkley would be one of those reasons. Edited March 20, 2018 by Inigo Montoya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Even the Jets don't mess this up. Rosen in NYC at #3 makes sense. That does mean the Giants take Rosen at #2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ol Dirty B Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: The first two words of this thread's title are, "What if" I'm not saying that they are taking a QB, I'm simply wondering why they would tell everyone that they are taking a QB when it can only hurt them to do so. You say that the Browns and Giants are not trading out of their spots. I haven't heard that anywhere. To the contrary, I've heard the GM for the Giants say on TV that he will listen to any offer. I don't think there is a chance in Hell the Giants would trade picks with the Jets because of their unique relationship, just like we would never trade a draft pick with the Jets or Patriots. I think this thread is fun and posits a credible question. Why would an NFL GM tell the world how they are going to draft? What are the possible reasons for that? In this instance, the possibility that they are targeting Barkley would be one of those reasons. The Browns GM also said to call him about the number 1 pick. I dont think that's happening at all. I also never said the Giants wouldn't trade out. I'd apologize for misrepresenting your sorry excuse for a thread if you didn't do the same in an even worse fashion. I don't find discussing what ifs that are definitely impossibilities as interesting. But their is a whole genre of fan fiction and things like that dedicated to this kind of stuff. So you're clearly not alone. Edited March 20, 2018 by Ol Dirty B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Yes. The Jets master plan is to give up all those picks and pray the Giants don't take Barkley. BTW - Only two first round top five running backs have won the Superbowl with the team that drafted them (Lewis and Bush) since 1980. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: So this was the basis of your thread? I can't believe I wasted my time. 38 minutes ago, Ol Dirty B said: The Browns GM also said to call him about the number 1 pick. I dont think that's happening at all. I also never said the Giants wouldn't trade out. I'd apologize for misrepresenting your sorry excuse for a thread if you didn't do the same in an even worse fashion. I don't find discussing what ifs that are definitely impossibilities as interesting. But their is a whole genre of fan fiction and things like that dedicated to this kind of stuff. So you're clearly not alone. If you don't want to read threads based on what ifs and speculation, then I'm not sure this board is the place you want to be for the next six weeks. This thread is no different than the dozen threads about who the Bills are going to trade up with, who the Bills are going to draft, which QB the Browns are going to draft, which QB falls to the Jets... It's all speculation. No different from my question.... What if the Jets are targeting Barkley? I don't claim to have any insider info. I laid out my reasoning as clearly as I could in my initial post. You can agree with it, disagree with it, ignore it, respond to it, or anything else you like to do. But I am not forcing you to waste your time on it. If I had that kind of power over the universe I would use it on something truly miraculous like making my kids turn off the lights when they walk out of a room or putting down their cell phones for ten seconds. I wouldn't waste it on making people respond to my posts on this message board. At the end of the day I suspect the Jets will draft a QB at 3, but I still come back to my initial point, why in the Hell would they tell people that's what they are going to do? It just makes no sense. One possible explanation is that they are targeting Barkley. Edited March 20, 2018 by Inigo Montoya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 They're drafting a QB, you don't trade all those 2nd for a RB, which they picked up a good one in FA, Isiah Crowell I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 It was Crowell that they picked up and he is a solid pass catching RB. 13 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: They're drafting a QB, you don't trade all those 2nd for a RB, which they picked up a good one in FA, Isiah Crowell I think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smuvtalker Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: The Browns GM also said to call him about the number 1 pick. I dont think that's happening at all. I also never said the Giants wouldn't trade out. I'd apologize for misrepresenting your sorry excuse for a thread if you didn't do the same in an even worse fashion. I don't find discussing what ifs that are definitely impossibilities as interesting. But their is a whole genre of fan fiction and things like that dedicated to this kind of stuff. So you're clearly not alone. "Delusional", "ridiculous", "dumb", "sorry excuse for a thread".... Seriously ODB? I know that this time of year sees way more than it's fair share of unnecessary, frustrating, and sometimes pointless threads. But is there really any need for name-calling and personal insults? I respect your viewpoints and opinions on here, and IMO you are a valued member of this board. I could maybe understand you getting frustrated and replying once. But three separate posts? I don't think there's any need for that on here sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Its over. Theyre taking a QB. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inigo Montoya Posted March 20, 2018 Author Share Posted March 20, 2018 I'm not asking this question in the hopes that it makes it easier for the Bills to move up and snag one of the elite QBs. I think after the Jet's traded up to 3 it is going to be too costly for the Bills to move up. I hope the Bills stay at 12. I would rather the Bills take Rudolph with a later pick and use their draft capital to fill in some holes in their roster with all their picks. Let McCarron, Rudolph, and Peterman battle it out in camp for the starting job. But that's a conversation for a different thread. 24 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Its over. Theyre taking a QB. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 (edited) Tinfoil hats be damned... The only team any of the afc east should be worried about is the Patriots. Yet everything any other afc east team does is a plan to !@#$ the Bills hahahahahaha Edited March 20, 2018 by Boca BIlls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorp83 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Then the Jets are dumber then they look... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Don't see it. Don't see the value in taking a RB way up that high in the draft. Look at the Bills acquisition of McCoy...we bought him for $1.99 in the discount aisle....despite the guy being one of the few elite runners in the game IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburnbillsbacker Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 There are RBs that will be drafted in rounds 2 and 3 that could be as productive at Barkley. In my opinion there is zero chance that they don't draft a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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