I think we are in great shape

[Fetou]

2 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

If I’m ok using it for ALL QBs, it’s not a contrivance. If someone is saying what he’s saying, it is.

I'm sure you would love if your workplace performance was judged by things that were out of your control.

 

WR drop % by QB. If your eyes get tired going down the list, Jackson is #53.

 

Edited March 18, 2018 by Fetou

[Tcali]

3 minutes ago, Real McCoy said:

You need to go and do some more research and stop listening to what the so called "experts say" or Polian

OK--i will research what some nerd says--not what i have witnessed with my own eyes for 50 plus yrs.

Just now, Fetou said:

I'm sure you would love if your workplace performance was judged by things that were out of your control.

 

you do make a good point. altho WRs live under that shadow constantly.worst position in the league cuz of that.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Fetou said:

I'm sure you would love if your workplace performance was judged by things that were out of your control.

 

 

I can’t believe anyone seriously believes this guy is nfl capable. Hey, whatever floats your boat.

[CaptnCoke11]

2 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

Tremaine Edmunds?

Is he a middle linebacker?  Cause that’s what they need.  

[Real McClappy]

4 minutes ago, Tcali said:

OK--i will research what some nerd says--not what i have witnessed with my own eyes for 50 plus yrs.

you do make a good point. altho WRs live under that shadow constantly.worst position in the league cuz of that.

Then you know who Randall Cunningham is? It's the closest resemblance I can come up with.

[Fetou]

4 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

I can’t believe anyone seriously believes this guy is nfl capable. Hey, whatever floats your boat.

Brandon Beane:

 

"He is a special athlete. He really is. I understand why people say (he should switch to wide receiver) because they’ve seen guys convert that are special athletes. I still think he’s going to get a chance to prove that he can play quarterback. I think he’s earned that right. He won the Heisman doing that. I think he’s going to get every chance to prove that before he ever looks at a position change. I refer to Cam (Newton) because it’s so recent. Those were the things a lot of people said about Cam. ‘It’s a simple offense, he can’t learn it, everything he’s done has been run first, pass second.’ Look at what Cam has done in this league. He’s done a lot of good things. You have to give Lamar Jackson that due diligence to prove what he can do mentally, physically, all of those things. What his intangibles are. I haven’t gotten to meet the young man yet. I’ve heard great things about him and I’m looking forward to getting to know him between now and the draft.”

 

I'm sure he will be fully considered and given a fair shake. 

Edited March 18, 2018 by Fetou

[Real McClappy]

6 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

I can’t believe anyone seriously believes this guy is nfl capable. Hey, whatever floats your boat.

For the record I'm Rosen or Mayfield guy. That does not appear to happening so why not have a sane conversation about next options? Everyone gets so pissy or heated over any conversation about the QB position, it's crazy.

Edited March 18, 2018 by Real McCoy

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 minute ago, Fetou said:

Brandon Beane:

 

"He is a special athlete. He really is. I understand why people say (he should switch to wide receiver) because they’ve seen guys convert that are special athletes. I still think he’s going to get a chance to prove that he can play quarterback. I think he’s earned that right. He won the Heisman doing that. I think he’s going to get every chance to prove that before he ever looks at a position change. I refer to Cam (Newton) because it’s so recent. Those were the things a lot of people said about Cam. ‘It’s a simple offense, he can’t learn it, everything he’s done has been run first, pass second.’ Look at what Cam has done in this league. He’s done a lot of good things. You have to give Lamar Jackson that due diligence to prove what he can do mentally, physically, all of those things. What his intangibles are. I haven’t gotten to meet the young man yet. I’ve heard great things about him and I’m looking forward to getting to know him between now and the draft.”

 

I'm sure he will be fully considered and given a fair shake. 

 

And in three years will be washed out of the league. If there’s ever anything you can be assured of, that’s it.

[Fetou]

Just now, Real McCoy said:

For the record I'm Rosen or Mayfield guy. That does not appear to happening so why not have a sane conversation about next options? Everyone get so pissy or heated over any conversation about the QB position it's crazy.

I'm with you on Rosen. I would take Jackson over Mayfield.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, Real McCoy said:

For the record I'm Rosen or Mayfield guy. That does not appear to happening so why not have a sane conversation about next options? Everyone get so pissy or heated over any conversation about the QB position it's crazy.

 

Well speaking for myself, I’m over dynamic dual threat qbs.

[Fetou]

Just now, joesixpack said:

 

And in three years will be washed out of the league. If there’s ever anything you can be assured of, that’s it.

Somebody just traded the 1st pick in the 3rd round for Tyrod Taylor and he is starting again next season. Even if Jackson's progression is unfavorable, he projects pretty easily to be a much better prospect than Taylor.

[Real McClappy]

8 minutes ago, Fetou said:

I'm with you on Rosen. I would take Jackson over Mayfield.

Cool, I trust whatever Beane and McD decide at the position as long as they don't Skip over the position.

I'm not a big Josina fan from ESPN but she did this quick segment on Jackson that is spot on.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/22544007

[Misterbluesky]

1 hour ago, klos63 said:

No, it would probably be pretty good. Plus McCarron is our QB next season anyway.

If only the not so conservatives on this board could try to understand and consume this fact..it would be a more peaceful place.

[RFL]

3 hours ago, Madmax09 said:

I agree.  I think it's ridiculous what the jets gave up to move 3 spots. I'm so glad we did not make that move. 

Agreed.....and if we did the trade up it would have cost much more. Seems to me people on here are very passionate, but throwing away all those picks to move up 8 or 9 spots is just crazy and desperate.  People get caught up in all the hype, Think long term here. The Bills brass still might move up some if the deal works. AJM is more ready than any QB in the draft.

[ganesh]

13 hours ago, joesixpack said:

Lamar Jackson at 12 lol

Is Lamar Jackson better than E J Manuel?

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

10 minutes ago, ganesh said:

Is Lamar Jackson better than E J Manuel?

 

I don’t think so. Accuracy problems, lack of pocket presence.

[starrymessenger]

I see Rosen as clearly the # 1 QB prospect in this class. I think he is going to be a Giant and if not a Jet (Jets are betting the reports that the Giants are not taking a QB are true). 

As much as I like Rosen, I'm absolutely fine with Lamar at 12. I think he's at least as good a prospect as Mayfield, Darnold and Allen (and maybe better - he's # 2 on my list). There is risk with all of these guys (though less with Rosen IMO ) so if Lamar flames out (which I seriously doubt) its just one pick and at least you have'nt gutted your entire draft and still have plenty of picks to really  fill some of the many holes in the roster with quality players.  And if he does pan out, Bills will be miles ahead after the dust settles. 

Not sure this happens though because 1) I have no idea how Beane feels about Lamar and 2) I think Zona may try to leapfrog the Bills on or before the draft.

[Bakin]

15 hours ago, TigerJ said:

why fret about things you can't control?

Because this is TBD. 

While some posters are rational and normal, others hysterically faint on couches for every reason possible. 

 

Just like in the Real world. 

[Solomon Grundy]

16 hours ago, joesixpack said:

 

Lol. Lies, damned lies and made up statistics.

 

how is it that completion percentage is a valid yardstick except for Lamar?

And Josh Allen

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Just now, the skycap said:

And Josh Allen

 

I'm not an allen fan either.

 

[Solomon Grundy]

16 hours ago, Real McCoy said:

Cool, I trust whatever Beane and McD decide at the position as long as they don't Skip over the position.

I'm not a big Josina fan from ESPN but she did this quick segment on Jackson that is spot on.

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/22544007

You guys are blowing up my spot!!! My grandfather used to say "let sleeping dogs lie". Please let Lamar make it to pick 12 so that the Bills can have their very own Cam/Vick/Cunningham/Moon. 

16 hours ago, joesixpack said:

 

Well speaking for myself, I’m over dynamic dual threat qbs.

So you don't like Aaron Rodgers? Russell Wilson??

6 hours ago, ganesh said:

Is Lamar Jackson better than E J Manuel?

Is this a trick question? Lamar Jackson is a Heisman winner. EJ didn't get a sniff.

[CDogg20]

21 hours ago, the skycap said:

They weren't half the passers. Jackson threw for 9000 yards in 2.5 seasons!! Jackson was Louisville's entire offense. There are NONE of his offensive players in the NFL to date. You can't say that about Tebow, Young or Manziel. As far as his opposition in college, go look at the games and his stats against FL.ST, Clemson, NC ST, Boston College, etc. Some of you guys can't see the forest through the trees.

Finally, someone with football acumen. You are the real McCoy!!

And you don't think top 10 is too early for Josh Allen??

Never said I was a Josh Allen fan? 

 

I subscribe to Darnold or Rosen. 

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

Are Lamar Jacksons family members logging on to team message boards to hype him up? Seems like it's happening on a ton of boards with new posters pushing their Jackson propaganda. I'm sorry to tell them that he's dropping into the late 2nd or 3rd rd where he should be.

Edited March 19, 2018 by Call_Of_Ktulu

[Fetou]

8 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

Are Lamar Jacksons family members logging on to team message boards to hype him up? Seems like it's happening on a ton of boards with new posters pushing their Jackson propaganda. I'm sorry to tell them that he's dropping into the late 2nd or 3rd rd where he should be.

http://topbet.eu/sportsbook/football/2018-nfl-draft-props

 

Go ahead and collect your free money. +250 is a pretty good longshot, nice payout.

[formerlyofCtown]

22 hours ago, the skycap said:

They weren't half the passers. Jackson threw for 9000 yards in 2.5 seasons!! Jackson was Louisville's entire offense. There are NONE of his offensive players in the NFL to date. You can't say that about Tebow, Young or Manziel. As far as his opposition in college, go look at the games and his stats against FL.ST, Clemson, NC ST, Boston College, etc. Some of you guys can't see the forest through the trees.

Finally, someone with football acumen. You are the real McCoy!!

And you don't think top 10 is too early for Josh Allen??

If we take him he needs to bulk up, but I think the team that wants him keeps or trades for TT.  I am of the belief that Cleveland trades out of 4 and drafts him at 11 or 12 or somewhere in the teens.

[Meatplow]

23 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said:

On 3/17/2018 at 7:51 PM, T-Bomb said:

 

Oh gawd, another running QB who should be a receiver.  We just went through that...

You really think Mayfield isn’t the same? He’s barely 6’0 

 

Do you even know who Baker Mayfield is?!?!  And what does his height have to do with Jackson being a running QB that some think should be a WR?  

[formerlyofCtown]

4 hours ago, the skycap said:

You guys are blowing up my spot!!! My grandfather used to say "let sleeping dogs lie". Please let Lamar make it to pick 12 so that the Bills can have their very own Cam/Vick/Cunningham/Moon. 

So you don't like Aaron Rodgers? Russell Wilson??

Is this a trick question? Lamar Jackson is a Heisman winner. EJ didn't get a sniff.

If he is Warren Moon let's trade up to 2 and take him.  The other 3 we better trade down from 22.

[Call_Of_Ktulu]

21 hours ago, Fetou said:

Somebody just traded the 1st pick in the 3rd round for Tyrod Taylor and he is starting again next season. Even if Jackson's progression is unfavorable, he projects pretty easily to be a much better prospect than Taylor.

You have that good of a QB eye where you can say Lamar will be a better QB than Taylor? Both are athletic QB's, Both have trouble reading defense's, Both have poor field vision, Both have happy feet, both are not accurate passers, Both will take off and run first before trying to make a play passing the football. 

 

I think all the QB's In this draft are over hyped with exception of Mayfield. 

 

 

Edited March 19, 2018 by Call_Of_Ktulu

[Fetou]

1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:

You have that good of a QB eye where you can say Lamar will be better a better QB than Taylor? Both are athletic QB's, Both have trouble reading defense's, Both have poor field vision, Both have happy feet, both are not accurate passers, Both will take off and run first before trying to make a play passing the football. 

 

I think all the QB's In this draft are over hyped with exception of Mayfield. 

 

 

I wouldn't rely on just my eye. Taylor was drafted in the 6th round. 

[Sweats]

On 2018-03-17 at 7:54 PM, PIZ said:

 

He's going top 20.

He’s projected to still be available at our #22 pick, unless teams panic and take him early.

[Batman1876]

For those who favor building a good roster to cover for mediocre QB play how did that work for us recently? We’ve had good talent on D, we’ve had good WRs and we’ve had the best rushing attack. Our roster has looked worse because of our QB, notice how often players leave Buffalo and become stars elsewhere.