JerseyBills Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I said this yesterday, but I feel the Bills have their eyes on a rookie mlb. The QB of the defense for the next 5+ years. I think that solidifies and greatly improved the defense , which should be muchhhh better now that the Bean/McD stamp is on it. I'm not a college guy by any means, but is there a top 10 mlb or 2 that projects to be a stud at the NFL level? Again, I think a rookie QB is in play,but not one of the big 4-5 , unless they slide to 12. Using this draft capital will further put their stamp on the roster and feel they really like one. Witha RB , possibly 2 and 3-4 QB coming off the board, we will have the luxury of picking up a stud at 12 and 22 for that matter. Loving these low profile,high ceiling moves so far, have complete confidence in this staff and trust they have a clear vision and are following that formula. QB is top priority but on the defensive side of the ball . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMDman Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I feel likethey bring brown back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The one-handed dude? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 It's actually a really good year for linebackers. Raquan Smith and Tremaine Edmunds are the top guys. Rashaan Evans is also very good as well. If we want to go that route it is likely someone will be there at 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, WMDman said: I feel likethey bring brown back I hope not. I'm hearing 7 mil a year. I just don't see him being worth it. He gets exposed to much in pass game. Just now, K-GunJimKelly12 said: It's actually a really good year for linebackers. Raquan Smith and Tremaine Edmunds are the top guys. Rashaan Evans is also very good as well. If we want to go that route it is likely someone will be there at 12. Good. I don't know nearly as much as most on here about cfb players. Any 43 mlb fit the scheme and is a McD guy? Is there a can't miss 43 mlb out there? I feel this is top priority now that Star and Murphy signed on the DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I hope not. I'm hearing 7 mil a year. I just don't see him being worth it. He gets exposed to much in pass game. Good. I don't know nearly as much as most on here about cfb players. Any 43 mlb fit the scheme and is a McD guy? Is there a can't miss 43 mlb out there? I feel this is top priority now that Star and Murphy signed on the DL. There is a chance both Edmunds and Smith could be gone by the time we pick though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Introducing: Leighton Vander Esch http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/leighton-vander esch?id=2560232 LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I said this yesterday, but I feel the Bills have their eyes on a rookie mlb. The QB of the defense for the next 5+ years. I think that solidifies and greatly improved the defense , which should be muchhhh better now that the Bean/McD stamp is on it. I'm not a college guy by any means, but is there a top 10 mlb or 2 that projects to be a stud at the NFL level? Again, I think a rookie QB is in play,but not one of the big 4-5 , unless they slide to 12. Using this draft capital will further put their stamp on the roster and feel they really like one. Witha RB , possibly 2 and 3-4 QB coming off the board, we will have the luxury of picking up a stud at 12 and 22 for that matter. Loving these low profile,high ceiling moves so far, have complete confidence in this staff and trust they have a clear vision and are following that formula. QB is top priority but on the defensive side of the ball . Get the real QB Get the Real QB why do Bills fans hate QBs? 8 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: I hope not. I'm hearing 7 mil a year. I just don't see him being worth it. He gets exposed to much in pass game. Good. I don't know nearly as much as most on here about cfb players. Any 43 mlb fit the scheme and is a McD guy? Is there a can't miss 43 mlb out there? I feel this is top priority now that Star and Murphy signed on the DL. Phase 2 of free agency is about to start. He isnt getting 7M a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Preston Brown coming back maybe? I know that I like him more than most but he is a pretty good LB. The DL has already improved as well. I’d bring back Brown and draft a guy in the first few rounds (maybe Darius Leonard). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bag of Milk said: Introducing: Leighton Vander Esch http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/leighton-vander esch?id=2560232 LEIGHTON VANDER ESCH I take Vander Esch in 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Get the real QB Get the Real QB why do Bills fans hate QBs? Mccarron imo is no worse than any rookie we'd get. I think QB could be in play, I just doubt a trade up is in play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, JerseyBills said: Mccarron imo is no worse than any rookie we'd get. I think QB could be in play, I just doubt a trade up is in play. They are trading up. 2 year 10M with 5M AVV is a BU QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) Bills did not trade up to 12, 8 months before the draft, to take a LBer Edited March 15, 2018 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Muellers Ghost Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Going to need another salary dump then as you just have a little over 3M right now left on the cap I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I take Vander Esch in 2nd. Vander Esch absolutely crushed the combine. He WILL be a first round pick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, Jamie Muellers Ghost said: Going to need another salary dump then as you just have a little over 3M right now left on the cap I believe. Where are you getting that from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: They are trading up. 2 year 10M with 5M AVV is a BU QB. And who do you foresee this trade up being for? And why is it worth missing out on a Treadmill White or Dion Dawkins? No sarcasm, genuinely interested in your opinion,as stated I am not a well informed college guy like many on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The signing of McCarron doesn't mean the Bills are done looking for a franchise QB. I think the are trying to find a creative way to get to 5 with Denver, without giving up any draft picks. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, JerseyBills said: And who do you foresee this trade up being for? And why is it worth missing out on a Treadmill White or Dion Dawkins? No sarcasm, genuinely interested in your opinion,as stated I am not a well informed college guy like many on here Rosen Darnold Mayfield and Yes a Franchise QB is worth it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: Bills did not trade up to 12 to take a LBer Who said they should use the number 12 pick on a LB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The entire point of this thread Just now, Bag of Milk said: Who said they should use the number 12 pick on a LB? The entire point of this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I don't want to be that guy, but we still need the QB of our offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I think the Bills are trading up. McCarron isn't likely to be the future. No one wanted him. When you need a QB and you have a chance to get a great rookie, you can't pass on the opportunity. You have to take your shot. So I think the Bills are trading up into the top 5 and getting the guy they want. And that means they won't be drafting at 12 and they won't be getting one of the top linebackers. Maybe they get their guy in the second round. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 My mind hasn't changed. I still believe they'll draft someone like White or Lauletta in round 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: And who do you foresee this trade up being for? And why is it worth missing out on a Treadmill White or Dion Dawkins? No sarcasm, genuinely interested in your opinion,as stated I am not a well informed college guy like many on here If you draft a QB and they end up being a franchise hit, I would take that over 5 Tre Whites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Can the owners meeting get here really fast so the next trade up can happen already??? 4 minutes ago, Bag of Milk said: Vander Esch absolutely crushed the combine. He WILL be a first round pick Maybe maybe not. Tape means more than Combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 In free agency there isn't much going on. Tahir Whitehead is still out there I believe. I still honestly take a flyer on Brian Cushing or even a guy like Lawrence Timmons. Other than that I think we have to wait to see who gets released over the next couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 A linebacker and OT in round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) They trade up for their Qb. Bottom part of rd 1 Buffalo moves up for a linebaker. Those are the biggest needs. Both filled with big time players on the first night. Edited March 15, 2018 by Mat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baskingridgebillsfan Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 if they sign Preston Brown and then a better suited mlb is available in the draft can Preston handle the strong side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamkrgr Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I think the move is to get up to #5 and draft one of Rosen, Darnold, Allen or Mayfield. Probably will cost the 22nd + one of the 2nd rounders. At that point we can look for a "QB for the defense". Only after we get a QB for the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Vander Esch, after Smith, might be the best player for MIKE in our defense. But with the trade up, we won't be able to get those guys. I think we wind up signing someone who is released over the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: If you draft a QB and they end up being a franchise hit, I would take that over 5 Tre Whites. Right but I don't see any of these guys with Franchise QB written on them. Mccarron has probably just as much upside. I see 2011 and 12 qbs here. The first rounders we're Locker,Gabbert,Ponder ,RG3,Tannehil,Weeden. Cam n Luck are the outliers but both were expected to be legit franchise guys. Cousins was a 4th rder in 12 No QB in this class has that franchise QB stamp. Why waste draft capital on a huge question mark when we can let a QB fall to us and have the same chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bag of Milk Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 (edited) 36 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The entire point of this thread The entire point of this thread LOL., My bad, I glossed over it. I guess I am denial that after all that Beane has done, some people think we might not take a QB. Edited March 15, 2018 by Bag of Milk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 12 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Can the owners meeting get here really fast so the next trade up can happen already??? Next trade up...to the top-3? You don't trade up until you see what happens at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Doc said: Next trade up...to the top-3? You don't trade up until you see what happens at the top. Go to 1 or 2 if you have a guy your dead set on. It will be costly but they have plenty to offer. The sooner you do it you can than concentrate on the rest of the draft. If the price is right the other team can than work on how their draft works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, baskingridgebillsfan said: if they sign Preston Brown and then a better suited mlb is available in the draft can Preston handle the strong side I believe this as well. I am not a fan of Preston, but I do think he could be effective as a SAM because of his freakishly long arms. I think he is going to wind up as an LB on a 3-4 team like the Packers or Giants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: Go to 1 or 2 if you have a guy your dead set on. It will be costly but they have plenty to offer. The sooner you do it you can than concentrate on the rest of the draft. If the price is right the other team can than work on how their draft works. It will be very costly. Going to 2 will cost the 2-1st rounders, the 1st-2nd rounder, and the 1st-3rd rounder. The first overall will cost them their first 6 picks. Unless they have a crystal ball, no way do I give up that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 10 minutes ago, Doc said: Next trade up...to the top-3? You don't trade up until you see what happens at the top. Sure you can if you like any of the three QBs. You can get up there immediately 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Just now, MAJBobby said: Sure you can if you like any of the three QBs. You can get up there immediately It depends on whether they like more than 1 QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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