starrymessenger Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 13 hours ago, Domdab99 said: His ceiling is Christian Ponder. No thanks. I think he could well be better than that. To me his ceiling (and it's not a guarantee he gets there) is Andy Dalton. That's not bad but in looking at this class I see a lot more upside elsewhere and I see no reason not to go for that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2nd round Grade for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 12 hours ago, the skycap said: ANY comparisons to Trump is a definitive NO!! What about winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 They schemed most of the WRs open in his offense but the kid can make a lot of throws. If we don't trade up, i could see us taking Rudolph at 21 and maybe trading down from 22 and picking up an extra 2nd rounder for it. Still on the trade up for Rosen or Mayfield bandwagon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, BigBuff423 said: Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but the statement here is just factually inaccurate. In fact it’s one of the things I’m drawn to about him. His yards, completion %, TDs, all went up year over year while his INTs remained static. He he won the Johnny Unitas award this year over Baker Mayfield and those who say he doesn’t have a strong arm are missing something. He does not have an elite arm, but watch his video and you’ll see long bomb throws and some tight window throws, and if you watch opposite hash to boundary throws, not all of them good admittedly, but they’re there. And, arm strength within reason can be modestly improved and is certainly nowhere near the most important trait. i would be perfectly fine with him in the 1st. he won't make it to round 2. he's prototypical size 4 yr. starter great td to int. ratio improved every year we don't give up any picks! nfn....similar scouting report to aaron rogers... Edited March 3, 2018 by billsredneck1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Conceptually he's a big improvement over Tyrod at the NFL level. The question is how well he can manage the mental component of being a QB; that wasn't tested in college and the meatheads running the combine don't test for it either. Can he process several channels of information quickly? I have no idea. But measuring his standing broad jump isn't going to give you the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racketmaster Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 His arm is definitely the weakest of the “top 6” as we saw in throwing drills today. That is his biggest flaw and may drop him out of the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RalphWilson'sNewWar Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Can he win from the pocket? Beanes own words/question. Which one of these guys can consistently win from the pocket throwing in a potential phone booth? just tell me and that is who I want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 16 hours ago, Domdab99 said: His ceiling is Christian Ponder. No thanks. Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 He looks terrible. He looked like a fish out of water trying to have proper footwork plus throw the ball quick. Horrible mechanics. He's not NFL ready and he doesn't have the arm talent to make me want to even draft him as a project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBills88 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, racketmaster said: His arm is definitely the weakest of the “top 6” as we saw in throwing drills today. That is his biggest flaw and may drop him out of the first. Can't he gain arm strength? Edited March 3, 2018 by BBills88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Says who? Me. I thought that was clear. My screen name is even right above what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Just now, BBills88 said: Can't arm strength gained? It''s plenty strong. Just not that accurate or efficient.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 One thing that's clear from watching the combine, is that Rudolph is one good-looking kid. Should go to Hollywood with that face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Just now, Domdab99 said: Me. I thought that was clear. My screen name is even right above what I said. Ok, just wanted to make sure that was the case. As such I can safely assume it’s a grossly inaccurate take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Ok, just wanted to make sure that was the case. As such I can safely assume it’s a grossly inaccurate take. Says who? Edited March 3, 2018 by Domdab99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 4 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: I wonder why you didn't post the entire list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Unitas_Golden_Arm_Award Year Player School Refs 1987 Don McPherson Syracuse 1988 Rodney Peete USC 1989 Tony Rice Notre Dame 1990 Craig Erickson Miami 1991 Casey Weldon Florida State 1992 Gino Torretta Miami 1993 Charlie Ward Florida State 1994 Jay Barker Alabama 1995 Tommie Frazier Nebraska 1996 Danny Wuerffel Florida 1997 Peyton Manning Tennessee 1998 Cade McNown UCLA 1999 Chris Redman Louisville 2000 Chris Weinke Florida State 2001 David Carr Fresno State 2002 Carson Palmer USC 2003 Eli Manning Ole Miss 2004 Jason White Oklahoma 2005 Matt Leinart USC 2006 Brady Quinn Notre Dame 2007 Matt Ryan Boston College 2008 Graham Harrell Texas Tech 2009 Colt McCoy Texas 2010 Scott Tolzien Wisconsin [3] 2011 Andrew Luck Stanford [4] 2012 Collin Klein Kansas State [5] 2013 AJ McCarron Alabama [6] 2014 Marcus Mariota Oregon [7] 2015 Connor Cook Michigan State [8] 2016 Deshaun Watson Clemson [1] 2017 Mason Rudolph Oklahoma State [9] Because just like the Heisman trophy winners, there are just as many bad NFL players that come out with that trophy and fail to produce. It wasn’t intended to be causal, it was intended to demonstrate that your comment about the Unitas award not meaning anything was not representative of the whole as you seemed to dismiss the recognition on the whole. Relax....we disagree, but the point is that no person can make the argument that at the point in time any person’s opinion is definitively “right “ - we just all have our thoughts about why we believe our insight os the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 32 minutes ago, RalphWilson'sNewWar said: Which one of these guys can consistently win from the pocket throwing in a potential phone booth? NATHAN PETERMAN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Domdab99 said: One thing that's clear from watching the combine, is that Rudolph is one good-looking kid. Should go to Hollywood with that face. THey said the same thing about that ex patriot qb that plays for the niners and just got that mega deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Hard to see his draft stock increasing after today. He seemed to prove himself to be a 4th or so round prospect. The guys that stood out IMO were: Josh Allen Josh Rosen Baker Mayfield Kyle Lauletta Mike White I still have faith in Lamar, but it was a mixed bag for him today. The rest looked pretty poor IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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