26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, BuffaloRush said: It’s has to be Tyrod. It’s not exactly the compliment. Kind of like being the skinniest member of “The Biggest Loser.” You can’t make a case for Bledsoe over Tyrod. He had 1 good season and finished with a .500 record. Never made he playoffs Bledsoe had a good eight games in his 1st season and it was downhill after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 In which case I'd go with Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Bledsoe was at the end of his career, but in his first season here, he was clearly the best QBthe Bills have had since Kelly. That year he threw for 4359 yards (272 per game) and 24 TDs on a not great Bills team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimp on da' net Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Another Fan said: I was thinking of this the other day and that you can make a case for Tyrod. Despite his holding onto the ball forever, he did have the ability to make plays with his legs and was exciting to watch at times. In no way advocating for him to be back next year just saying compared to some QB's here over the years he wasn't that bad. Ultimately though I think I gotta go with Kyle. I will go by the facts as to which QB was the best QB during the drought period, my criteria; winning pct., game winning drives (GWD) and TD's. 1- Tyrod, 2- Drew, 3- Fitz Rk Player From To G Pos AV QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds NY/A ANY/A Sk% 4QC GWD 1 Jim Kelly 1986 1996 160 QB 132 101-59-0 2874 4779 60.1 35467 237 5.0 175 3.7 84 7.4 6.8 12.3 221.7 84.4 323 2427 6.48 5.86 6.3 22 29 2 Joe Ferguson 1973 1984 164 QB 100 77-86-0 2188 4166 52.5 27590 181 4.3 190 4.6 92 6.6 5.4 12.6 168.2 68.9 292 2529 5.62 4.52 6.6 19 23 3 Jack Kemp 1962 1969 88 QB 55 43-31-3 1039 2240 46.4 15134 77 3.4 132 5.9 94 6.8 4.8 14.6 172.0 55.8 21 187 4.92 2.92 5.8 6 6 4 Ryan Fitzpatrick 2009 2012 55 QB 34 20-33-0 1041 1742 59.8 11654 80 4.6 64 3.7 98 6.7 6.0 11.2 211.9 79.8 97 581 6.02 5.33 5.3 4 6 5 Drew Bledsoe 2002 2004 48 QB 31 23-25-0 905 1531 59.1 10151 55 3.6 43 2.8 73 6.6 6.1 11.2 211.5 79.2 140 955 5.50 5.00 8.4 3 5 6 Tyrod Taylor 2015 2017 44 QB 40 22-20-0 774 1236 62.6 8857 51 4.1 16 1.3 84 7.2 7.4 11.4 201.3 92.5 124 660 6.03 6.25 9.1 3 5 7 Doug Flutie 1998 2000 39 QB 33 21-9-0 598 1063 56.3 7582 47 4.4 30 2.8 84 7.1 6.7 12.7 194.4 81.7 48 322 6.53 6.17 4.3 5 7 8 Dennis Shaw 1970 1973 45 QB 20 8-27-2 485 916 52.9 6286 35 3.8 67 7.3 75 6.9 4.3 13.0 139.7 57.1 123 1058 5.03 2.80 11.8 6 5 9 J.P. Losman 2004 2008 42 QB 20 10-23-0 558 941 59.3 6211 33 3.5 34 3.6 87 6.6 5.7 11.1 147.9 75.6 103 751 5.23 4.40 9.9 3 6 10 Trent Edwards 2007 2010 34 QB 17 14-18-0 535 878 60.9 5739 25 2.8 27 3.1 70 6.5 5.7 10.7 168.8 76.8 65 450 5.61 4.85 6.9 4 5 11 Rob Johnson 1998 2001 30 QB 17 9-17-0 401 663 60.5 4798 27 4.1 17 2.6 74 7.2 6.9 12.0 159.9 85.5 110 660 5.35 5.06 14.2 2 2 12 EJ Manuel 2013 2016 28 QB 10 6-11-0 319 547 58.3 3502 19 3.5 15 2.7 80 6.4 5.9 11.0 125.1 77.5 43 268 5.48 4.98 7.3 1 3 13 Todd Collins 1995 1997 28 QB 8 7-10-0 284 519 54.7 3218 16 3.1 19 3.7 95 6.2 5.2 11.3 114.9 68.5 56 374 4.95 4.02 9.7 3 5 14 Kyle Orton 2014 2014 12 QB 8 7-5-0 287 447 64.2 3018 18 4.0 10 2.2 84 6.8 6.6 10.5 251.5 87.8 33 198 5.88 5.69 6.9 2 2 15 Alex Van Pelt 1995 2003 31 QB 7 3-8-0 262 477 54.9 2985 16 3.4 24 5.0 80 6.3 4.7 11.4 96.3 64.1 19 113 5.79 4.26 3.8 1 3 16 Frank Reich 1985 1994 93 QB 9 4-4-0 222 377 58.9 2540 18 4.8 12 3.2 63 6.7 6.3 11.4 27.3 81.9 38 291 5.42 4.99 9.2 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Original Byrd Man said: Not saying TT is anywhere above average but he was the only QB to bring the Bills into the playoffs, which should account for something. Taylor happened to be Quarterback when the drought ended. It was kind of like musical chairs. Eventually the music will stop and Tyrod just happened to be sitting there. It was our DEFENSE that kept games in reach so our anemic offense had a chance to "field goal" their way to victory. (OK - sort of) Edited February 4, 2018 by cd1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) the other teams QB was the best QB during the drought Edited February 4, 2018 by ddaryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderingHerd Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Thinking about JP and I'm still bitter about this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...uh oh...he's a UFA so should we anticipate "bring him in " threads?...just askin'......you know how that works........... Oh, we know they are coming. I won't be starting them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) It’s Tyrod and it’s not all that close. With that being said he doesn’t belong on th poll because he played in a playoff game for the Bills. With that being said, Orton was probably next but only played part of a year. If the guys with a decent number of starts it was Fitz. Also, anyone that says Bledsoe, take out his first few games and look at what he did. He was worse than Losman and Edwards (or same league anyways). Edited February 4, 2018 by Kirby Jackson 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Orton was. If he had the offseason as starter and got the first 4 games, the drough would have ended in 14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s Tyrod and it’s not all that close. With that being said he doesn’t belong on th poll because he played in a playoff game for the Bills. With that being said, Orton was probably next but only played part of a year. If the guys with a decent number of starts it was Fitz. Also, anyone that says Bledsoe, take out his first few games and look at what he did. He was worse than Losman and Edwards (or same league anyways). It's Orton > TT. Ability to play the position and run an offense matters. Orton elevated the offense in ways TT never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Keep in mind during this time, with that collection of crap at the QB position, New England drafted more QBs than we did! With Tom Brady as their starter! This is what I mean when I have been saying this is as good as the franchise has looked in a long time. The usual foul stench of incompetence is slowly drifting out of OBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Bledsoe and it ain’t close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 22 minutes ago, jmc12290 said: It's Orton > TT. Ability to play the position and run an offense matters. Orton elevated the offense in ways TT never did. Not true, the team played much better with TT. Orton was good but not better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, yungmack said: Waiting for SaviorPeterman to weigh in. High level meetings take time man.....he will chime in soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: It’s Tyrod and it’s not all that close. With that being said he doesn’t belong on th poll because he played in a playoff game for the Bills. With that being said, Orton was probably next but only played part of a year. If the guys with a decent number of starts it was Fitz. Also, anyone that says Bledsoe, take out his first few games and look at what he did. He was worse than Losman and Edwards (or same league anyways). Yeah it's Taylor by a lot. Bledsoe would have been a HOF'er if he were drafted in the early 80's instead of the early 90's........the evolution of defense......specifically the zone blitz......really put a hurt on pocket statues like Bledsoe(and Jim Kelly too if truth be told). Orton is seen as half-a-bum and used as an example of a cheap guy who could outplay Taylor but people forget that on his way out of Dallas he made the "great" Tony Romo look bad by putting up a huge performance in a make-or-break game off the bench with Romo in a sling. If Orton really cared that much about winning he'd have had a very good back half of his career, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaista2k Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Bledsoe only had 1 good year and Tyrod isn't a good enough passing quarterback. My vote goes to Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 13 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Not true, the team played much better with TT. Orton was good but not better. It's 100% true. Orton dragged that 2014 offense to 18th in points. If TT was their QB, they might have been the worst offense in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Not true, the team played much better with TT. Orton was good but not better. I think Orton was bad for most of his time with the Bills except for two big games against the NYJ. He was terrible against MIA, GB, CLE, and DEN in the stretch run of 2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swnybillsfan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 i voted for tyrod. i think he was the best overall. fitz was absolutely my favorite, and bledsoe may have been the best pure passer. but tyrod i think had the best overall blend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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