Horowitz's DOJ IG Report

[3rdnlng]

2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Why is it always about Hillary with you?  She's home on the couch with her feet up. Time to move on. 

 

I'm not certain you understand the meaning of the word "obviously".  Your President Trump filed his tax returns, any discrepancies would be between Your President Trump and the IRS. That's the only transparency that really matters, right?  

 

 

There is a very good reason for Trump to not disclose his tax returns. Can you imagine what this media would do with the type of complicated tax returns Trump has to have?

[Chandemonium]

7 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

There is a very good reason for Trump to not disclose his tax returns. Can you imagine what this media would do with the type of complicated tax returns Trump has to have?

You mean he has more than a 1040 EZ?

Edited June 5, 2018 by Chandemonium

[Tiberius]

13 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Why is it always about Hillary with you?  She's home on the couch with her feet up. Time to move on. 

 

I'm not certain you understand the meaning of the word "obviously".  Your President Trump filed his tax returns, any discrepancies would be between Your President Trump and the IRS. That's the only transparency that really matters, right?  

 

 

Nope, My president should be transparent just like he thinks the government should be. 

 

Especially with the stink of corruption he has brought to the WH 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

[3rdnlng]

11 minutes ago, Chandemonium said:

You mean he has more than a 1040 EZ?

Why do you think he was pushing for tax reform? He can now file on a postcard.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

30 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

There is a very good reason for Trump to not disclose his tax returns. Can you imagine what this media would do with the type of complicated tax returns Trump has to have?

Yes, agreed. I enjoyed when he told them to stuff it. 

 

22 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Nope, My president should be transparent just like he thinks the government should be. 

 

Especially with the stink of corruption he has brought to the WH 

 

 

I don't follow the logic that submitting a tax return to the appropriate regulatory body, having them review and adjust it as they see fit, somehow skirts transparency.  Just the opposite in fact.

 

I understand why Trump Haters would say that, but it's a silly argument. Its like saying you have registered your car, so you must have a dwi that you're hiding. So there's no confusion for the liberals among us, substitute "your mom's car" in the above example as needed. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

Note, Bill Priestap has been testifying behind closed doors all day (still going). Not a single leak yet. 

 

Why? 

 

His testimony is damning to A LOT of fake narratives that have been pushed by a lot of dirty actors (Schiff - though he's not in either hearing/media et al). 

Edited June 5, 2018 by Deranged Rhino

[Deranged Rhino]

...7+ hours now and still going. 

 

A MORE central role than previously known? He was already very central... 

 

This is going to be bad news for a lot of people.

(I hate when posts merge - but don't bump the thread. Just MO)

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

...7+ hours now and still going. 

 

A MORE central role than previously known? He was already very central... 

 

This is going to be bad news for a lot of people.

(I hate when posts merge - but don't bump the thread. Just MO)

 

For him to play a more central role, wouldn't he need to be the ringleader?

[Deranged Rhino]

1 minute ago, Taro T said:

 

For him to play a more central role, wouldn't he need to be the ringleader?

 

One would think. 

 

My early, off the cuff take on this statement is that Bill P laid out what we have covered and known for awhile down here, namely that Strzok worked around (rather than with) Bill Priestap and was taking orders directly from McCabe and the White House (cutting out even Comey in that loop). 

 

 

...And it's over. 

pic of Bill leaving.

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Yes, agreed. I enjoyed when he told them to stuff it. 

 

I don't follow the logic that submitting a tax return to the appropriate regulatory body, having them review and adjust it as they see fit, somehow skirts transparency.  Just the opposite in fact.

 

I understand why Trump Haters would say that, but it's a silly argument. Its like saying you have registered your car, so you must have a dwi that you're hiding. So there's no confusion for the liberals among us, substitute "your mom's car" in the above example as needed. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You having to go so far to defend him in this regard blows up your own argument. If there is nothing to see then there is nothing to hide. He's the one that brags about his business experience, well, let's see what the idiot is bragging about. 

 

[Deranged Rhino]

 

... Foreign travel, eh? If only we had covered that here. 

 

Oh, wait. We did.

[DC Tom]

16 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You having to go so far to defend him in this regard blows up your own argument. If there is nothing to see then there is nothing to hide. He's the one that brags about his business experience, well, let's see what the idiot is bragging about. 

 

 

He's hiding it from you.  You're unimportant.  

 

If he were hiding it from the IRS, then maybe you'd have a point.  But he's not.

[Taro T]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

One would think. 

 

My early, off the cuff take on this statement is that Bill P laid out what we have covered and known for awhile down here, namely that Strzok worked around (rather than with) Bill Priestap and was taking orders directly from McCabe and the White House (cutting out even Comey in that loop). 

 

 

...And it's over. 

pic of Bill leaving.

 

You've floated that theory before that Comey wasn't involved in this.  Hadn't given that theory much credence before, but it COULD explain some things that don't add up (from this far away).  

 

1st, it could explain why Comey's behavior seemed so strange around and after the election.  Things he thought he knew might not have been so.  It isn't a good look for him: being unaware of what's going on around him, but at least that isn't treasonous.

 

2nd, it could help explain why it looks on the surface like Mueller should be going hard after 45 because of the way his friend Comey was treated and the way the FBI (or elements of it) are getting dragged through the mud.  But if he is more targeting the people that made his friend into a bit of a dupe and tarnished the department, that would make a lot of the things (indictments and leaks) that have come out about his investigation so far make more sense.  Going after Manafort for his stuff that happened while he was tied into the Podesta Group rather than when he was in 45's campaign being one example.

 

Still not sure that the theory is correct, but it is showing plausibility.  

 

And pretty sure nobody would ever buy this whole story if it weren't actually happening.

[njbuff]

2 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

... Foreign travel, eh? If only we had covered that here. 

 

Oh, wait. We did.

 

Beavers must have a nice b.......

 

never mind.

 

?

[Deranged Rhino]

Just now, Taro T said:

...Still not sure that the theory is correct, but it is showing plausibility.  

 

And pretty sure nobody would ever buy this whole story if it weren't actually happening.

 

Certainly plausible. 

 

Look at how insulated they kept Comey in the email investigation. McCabe waited four weeks to tell Comey about Weiner's laptop discovery. That's not only against protocol, it's a violation of the chain of command. 

 

I believe Comey was viewed by Obama, Clinton, McCabe, Brennan, and the other higher-ups of the conspiracy to be nothing more than a bumbling yes-man who could do more damage than good if he was in the loop on everything. They efforted to keep him out of the loop on as much as possible - partially for plausible deniability, partially because they viewed him with contempt (as the texts between Strzok and Page show if you dig into them). 

 

Comey's got dirt under his nails, no question. But he's not one of the architects of this. 

[Nanker]

2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said:

One would think. 

 

My early, off the cuff take on this statement is that Bill P laid out what we have covered and known for awhile down here, namely that Strzok worked around (rather than with) Bill Priestap and was taking orders directly from McCabe and the White House (cutting out even Comey in that loop). 

 

 

...And it's over. 

pic of Bill leaving.

I can’t quite tell how red his bung hole is from that pic. Though I imagine he’s walking a lot like Frank Gallagher did when crossing the border into the USA as a mule.

 

[3rdnlng]

7 minutes ago, Nanker said:

I can’t quite tell how red his bung hole is from that pic. Though I imagine he’s walking a lot like Frank Gallagher did when crossing the border into the USA as a mule.

 

I missed that episode. What season?

[Nanker]

I think three. Shiela had been giving him enema therapy treatments IIRC. His stretched ah, hem... rectum became cavernous and allowed him to be an Alpha mule and he snagged an extra bag of coke that the cartel didn’t realize he swiped. 

 

That Frank, he was an enterprising SOB.

 

[Deranged Rhino]