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[Xwnyer]

26 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said:

It might be true , I like the kid he doesn’t have a lot of fans at obd.  Beane has done an outstanding job of retooling our scouting department.  He should bring back our Dunkirk native Tom gibbons.  Tom was great

so what things did Tom do that was so great.  Is he your connection?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

8 minutes ago, H2o said:

Mayfield is the best QB in the draft imo. He is insanely accurate, sees the whole field (even at whatever height he may be), can make any throw to any part of the field, and can quickly process what he sees coverage wise to identify the open man. He's no Johnny Manziel. 

 

Can't wait to see him in the playoffs.

 

 

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

Recognize!

 

 

 

....awe  struck!............

[K-9]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

No buying it. Every fan boy has a board so do NFL teams. They certainly aren't set but they have a board.

 

 

Believe what you wish, that’s cool. I’m offering the insight based on intimate knowledge of several facets of the scouting process, the sheer amount of data to be compiled, and the availability of those who need to make decisions based on that data. They don’t waste time constructing boards until the principals involved have the time to devote to that particular facet. It’s a ways off at the moment. 

 

But given I’m an anonymous poster in a forum on the internet, I fully understand your reluctance to believe that. And that is totally cool with me. 

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

 

....where is the Rudolph kid in your assessment....

 

I don't have him in the top 3 of Rosen, Darnold and Baker 

 

but he sits in the second class with guys like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen.

 

I can see him going late first or in the second.

 

He plays in a gimmicky offense which inflates stats but he is tough, has a good arm and good accuracy to multiple levels of the field

 

can float some passes off his back foot on occasion which he needs to clear up

 

but i would classify him as a rythem passer who can develop the skills to fit our offense

 

we need someone who comes in the game in rythem and can get hot with few passing attempts 

 

Baker is #1 in that category for me. He comes into the game on fire and completely in rythem all the time 

[JMF2006]

4 minutes ago, RobH063 said:

I've shoveled and shoveled and Shoveled. Then I helped my neighbors shovel. The rest of the time I'm not sleeping, I come here for free entertainment. When the weather breaks, I'll go make a new friend.

 

Moving to Dunkirk?  

[RobH063]

17 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said:

I guess what I have seen it technically not a draft board. It has everything a draft board has.  Tangibles and intangibles, ratings etc.  if it looks like a draft board and sounds like a draft board, it is a what?

Some sheets of paper with scribbled names on it?

[JMF2006]

2 minutes ago, RobH063 said:

Some sheets of paper with scribbled names on it?

 

In Crayon  

[Best Player Available]

21 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said:

Dunkirk don needs to pack 

Why you aren't going anywhere. Don when did you get your GED? 

[BADOLBILZ]

19 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

Outside of Rosen and Darnold Baker Mayfield can operate a west coast NFL offense better than any other QB in the draft.

 

Josh Allen cannot operate one right now

 

Baker has a strong arm... don't know where people are sayIng below average... and he has outstanding accuracy and touch from the pocket

 

If he is 6' tall which he should measure out at... the Bills would be dumb not to consider him with our 2nd first round pick 

 

He is miles ahead of Peterman , Josh Allen , Lamar Jackson and others 

 

He is also a 4 year starter 

 

 

If he's their starting QB of the future they'd be dumb to not take him with their 1st first round pick.

 

They've never done that in 60 years of drafting but gotta' wise-up sooner or later, right?

 

I've cited this a million times it seems but the Bills have picked eventual All Pros and future pro bowl non-QB's with their 1st picks in the first round a number of times during the drought..........and all they have to show for all of those picks this Sunday is rookie Tre'Davious White.

 

(Shaq is the only other former Bills 1st rounder on the roster but I think most realize he's not a first round talent by now and have written that pick down to a 3rd or 4th rounder to ease the disappointment of watching him act like the snap is a "suggestion" that he should get upfield).

 

You aren't vanquishing your roster by potentially wasting a pick on a franchise QB prospect.........get "the guy".

 

 

Edited December 26, 2017 by BADOLBILZ

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

 

I don't have him in the top 3 of Rosen, Darnold and Baker 

 

but he sits in the second class with guys like Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen.

 

I can see him going late first or in the second.

 

He plays in a gimmicky offense which inflates stats but he is tough, has a good arm and good accuracy to multiple levels of the field

 

can float some passes off his back foot on occasion which he needs to clear up

 

but i would classify him as a rythem passer who can develop the skills to fit our offense

 

we need someone who comes in the game in rythem and can get hot with few passing attempts 

 

Baker is #1 in that category for me. He comes into the game on fire and completely in rythem all the time 

 

...NO way in hell am I buying Dubious Dunkirk and his surrender of most top line draft capital for Cousins with this OBD gang......I'd rather overpay for a beer than Cousins.....so in the interest of REASONABLE preservation of draft capital with the number of holes to fill and based on your positional assessment, Rudolph may be the pick, sensible but not sexy with developmental work to do?...

[RobH063]

4 minutes ago, JMF2006 said:

9 minutes ago, RobH063 said:

I've shoveled and shoveled and Shoveled. Then I helped my neighbors shovel. The rest of the time I'm not sleeping, I come here for free entertainment. When the weather breaks, I'll go make a new friend.

 

Moving to Dunkirk?  

Maybe. I've always wanted to live near Walleye Willies

[WotAGuy]

3 hours ago, MarkAF43 said:

 

 

Speaking for myself, I have a lot to do with my time, but I also need an escape from work so coming here and calling Don out on all of his BS is fun for me.  Sure, boredom maybe, but someone who is going to come here and flaunt the fact that he and his friends are hacking the Bills and stealing and disseminating inside information doesn't sit well with me.

If he really is doing it, well maybe it needed to be reported to the team. 

 

[JMF2006]

1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...NO way in hell am I buying Dubious Dunkirk and his surrender of most top line draft capital for Cousins with this OBD gang......I'd rather overpay for a beer than Cousins.....so in the interest of REASONABLE preservation of draft capital with the number of holes to fill and based on your positional assessment, Rudolph may be the pick, sensible but not sexy with developmental work to do?...

 

Comon Man..... it would be the Billsy thing to do   

 

Mortgage the future and wind up in cap hell too  

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

If he's their starting QB of the future they'd be dumb to not take him with their 1st first round pick.

 

They've never done that in 60 years of drafting but gotta' wise-up sooner or later, right?

 

I've cited this a million times it seems but the Bills have picked eventual All Pros and future pro bowl non-QB's with their 1st picks in the first round a number of times during the drought..........and all they have to show for all of those picks this Sunday is rookie Tre'Davious White.

 

(Shaq is the only other former Bills 1st rounder on the roster but I think most realize he's not a first round talent by now and have written that pick down to a 3rd or 4th rounder to ease the disappointment of watching him act like the snap is a "suggestion" that he should get upfield).

 

You aren't vanquishing your roster by potentially wasting a pick on a franchise QB prospect.........get "the guy".

 

 

 

I completely agree

 

if he's your guy... you take him

[davefan66]

24 minutes ago, RobH063 said:

That's code for:

Donny, it's time for dinner.

Yes Mommy

 

More like...

 

 

[WotAGuy]

1 hour ago, RobH063 said:

When you're dealing with this kind of weather for the past several days, what exactly would you like me to do?

Help a neighbor?

[RobH063]

3 minutes ago, WotAGuy said:

Help a neighbor?

I'm retired. I help most of my neighbors. I already posted that I helped them shovel out.

Edited December 26, 2017 by RobH063

[Buffalo716]

4 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:

 

...NO way in hell am I buying Dubious Dunkirk and his surrender of most top line draft capital for Cousins with this OBD gang......I'd rather overpay for a beer than Cousins.....so in the interest of REASONABLE preservation of draft capital with the number of holes to fill and based on your positional assessment, Rudolph may be the pick, sensible but not sexy with developmental work to do?...

 

I can see them taking Rudolph if their top guy is gone. 

 

He has some work to do so I don't think he is day1 , year1 starter material 

 

if he is the pick I hope the Bills have a vet he can learn from. But his physical talent is pretty dang good.

 

and I like that he has an NFL body already

[K-9]

20 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said:

I guess what I have seen it technically not a draft board. It has everything a draft board has.  Tangibles and intangibles, ratings etc.  if it looks like a draft board and sounds like a draft board, it is a what?

Agree I just know he will not be a buffalo bill 

Tangibles and intangibles? On the draft board? Really? I’m not sure what you saw,  but it wasn’t a draft board.  Those intangible profile aspects of a player won’t be weighed until several other boxes have been checked. Things like interviews with the players themselves, discussions with their coaches, background checks, etc. Heck, I’ve known high school teachers that were asked for character references about players in the past. It is just too early in the process at this time for any of this data to be compiled, let alone judged in assisting the construction of a draft board.