87168 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 33 minutes ago, ganesh said: And having one of the best defense in the league helps!!!! something the Bills also had to too long ago at one point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Brown Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 What I'm hearing from people around the building is that Coach McDermott didn't see Ragland as a fit in his defensive scheme. We've seen it before from this regime, they are not afraid to move on from players if they don't fit what they're trying to do. Chris Brown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 The tears of McBeane haters.... SO refreshing. And if the Bills make the playoffs? How delicious will they be then? I hope it happens, I'll have SO much fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 4 hours ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: What are you, like 15 years old? We're on the verge of winning 9 games for a team that was supposed to be crappy and you're talking #@!# about MCDERMOTT? GTFOH. hahah!! Verge of winning 9 games. Hello? 3 division games left? Anything can happen. Did you notice our 1 and 2 QBs are injured? Did you notice our run defence? I hope we win 10 games, but your attitude towards others is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: He had three tackles yesterday...Watkins isnt going to break 1k or 60 receptions. It will be ok. Yeah but one was an amazing one where he stopped a washed-up Lynch, who ran right into him. Anyway, Ragland is a 3-4 LB. Which is (sort of) what they're playing in KC (it's actually a 2-4-5 defense). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) Are there any highlights of Ragland covering a TE or RB on a passing play? There was never any question of his ability to hit a runner who's lined up for a straight hit. Edited December 11, 2017 by GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 13 hours ago, Chris Brown said: What I'm hearing from people around the building is that Coach McDermott didn't see Ragland as a fit in his defensive scheme. We've seen it before from this regime, they are not afraid to move on from players if they don't fit what they're trying to do. Chris Brown So how do you balance that against the famed Wade Phillips statement on "scheme fit": "I don't understand the people that say, 'Hey, this is our scheme and that guy can't play in it,' a guy that can play, and is a good player, but, 'He can't play in our scheme.' To me, there's something wrong with your scheme," Phillips said. "You adapt the scheme to what the players can do, not what you can think of." It seems to me that the team trying to acquire and retain only talent that fits in a specific scheme, will always be at a competitive disadvantage to a team and coaches who are able to adapt a scheme to the talent they have. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 17 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: Oh I'm sorry, I missed the part where I'm just supposed to bow down and love everything the guy has done. You obviously drank the wrong beverage. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsMagic1 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Guy was coming off major knee surgery. Should have waited until he was 100% fit. Did not like them trading him as at Alabama he was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 17 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said: This is incredibly frustrating to see. Big deal. the Chiefs D blows. They will start their golf season on New Year's Day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Why is it a surprise that Whaley was competent at drafting front 7 if nothing else? For everyone clamoring to trade Lawson.. is mcbean's 5th better than Whaley's 1st? If he really believes that , then it's just arrogance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So how do you balance that against the famed Wade Phillips statement on "scheme fit": "I don't understand the people that say, 'Hey, this is our scheme and that guy can't play in it,' a guy that can play, and is a good player, but, 'He can't play in our scheme.' To me, there's something wrong with your scheme," Phillips said. "You adapt the scheme to what the players can do, not what you can think of." It seems to me that the team trying to acquire and retain only talent that fits in a specific scheme, will always be at a competitive disadvantage to a team and coaches who are able to adapt a scheme to the talent they have. Great post bud Too bad Rex and McD could not see this as well. Whatever happened to coaches that coach players and play up to players strengths? Everyone knew Ragland on draft day was a legit LB'er and a steal in the 2nd rd. But, he gets injured and comes back slow and every fickle Bills fan throws him under the bus. We flat out sold low and KC got a steal. This is reality and a bad move by the FO before and after hindsight kicked in. And we still need a LB'er or two to top it off. Edited December 12, 2017 by Real McCoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 12 hours ago, Real McCoy said: Great post bud Too bad Rex and McD could not see this as well. Whatever happened to coaches that coach players and play up to players strengths? Everyone knew Ragland on draft day was a legit LB'er and a steal in the 2nd rd. But, he gets injured and comes back slow and every fickle Bills fan throws him under the bus. We flat out sold low and KC got a steal. This is reality and a bad move by the FO before and after hindsight kicked in. And we still need a LB'er or two to top it off. I'm feeling slack this am so I'm not going to do it, but I think one could make a pretty good team from players McDermott and Beane have let walk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 On 12/11/2017 at 1:38 AM, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wait, I'm confused Ragland somehow could not absorb our playbook and scheme but when shipped off to KC at the end of training camp, he soaked it up like a sponge? Something's wrong with that picture. 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm feeling slack this am so I'm not going to do it, but I think one could make a pretty good team from players McDermott and Beane have let walk Its amazing how players we let go on off and def go on to have much better seasons on other teams. You could argue they are on teams with better qbs in terms of wrs and teams with better coaching in terms of dt, lb, and cb. I really dont like having coaches that can't adjust schmes to fit rosters. Like they said tho.. "trust the process" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 2 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Its amazing how players we let go on off and def go on to have much better seasons on other teams. You could argue they are on teams with better qbs in terms of wrs and teams with better coaching in terms of dt, lb, and cb. I really dont like having coaches that can't adjust schmes to fit rosters. Like they said tho.. "trust the process" And yet the Bills have a better record at this point of the season than in 2015 & 2016, even without all the "stars" they let go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 He had one solo tackle and two assists against the Raiders according to the box score. He showed nothing in training camp and they traded him. Should the coaching staff now just ignore what they see in camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da webster guy Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 On 11/22/2017 at 12:50 PM, Bangarang said: If you don’t like Preston Brown in this scheme then you wouldn’t have liked Ragland. Well said. The Ragman isn't a coverage or sideline to sideline guy. He would be great as a specialist on short yardage stuff though, he can shed blockers well and plays big in the trenches. He was in the perfect spot at Bama, where he won SEC defensive player of the year behind a great line with slower running backs than what we have in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: He had one solo tackle and two assists against the Raiders according to the box score. He showed nothing in training camp and they traded him. Should the coaching staff now just ignore what they see in camp? I've only seen him play against us and he looked good. Outside of that, I have no idea how he's play. Regardless, if we're looking for speed at the MLB position, it's not Ragland. I was wrong thinking he could be at least solid as a 4-3 MLB. I liked him and still think he will be at least solid but only in a 3-4 IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLess Price Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 26 minutes ago, GG said: And yet the Bills have a better record at this point of the season than in 2015 & 2016, even without all the "stars" they let go Yeah isnt that some sht? The results of this team playing beyond their talent on defense doesnt mean we didnt lose talent with sll those moves. Just look at how those players are doing for their respective teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 7 minutes ago, FearLess Price said: Yeah isnt that some sht? The results of this team playing beyond their talent on defense doesnt mean we didnt lose talent with sll those moves. Just look at how those players are doing for their respective teams. Talent was lost, but the team's record also indicates that the talent was over rated at least and overpaid at most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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