Roundybout Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, JM2009 said: It worked the last two seasons under a scheme that fit TT talents and the running game. They scored a lot of points. New-how about an O line that can block? That scheme is dead (and also was criticized a lot if I remember right). I totally agree that we should have kept it. But, we didn't. McD tried a QB that was supposed to fit the scheme better. It didn't, but at least he TRIED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 22 minutes ago, John from Hemet said: It is a little ridiculous that this has to even be pointed out to some people.....the 7 years in the league comment was clueless Um.... How? He has been in the league for 7 years. Don't you think he would have played sooner than 5 years into his career if he was a great player? He is a sixth round pick who outplayed Matt Cassell and EJ Manual to get a starting gig on a perrenial loser with a dumb!@#$ coach and parlayed it into 20 wins by hard work and a good attitude and some leadership ability. And I'm actually impressed by the dude to be as successful as he is with limited size, questionable accuracy, terrible pocket presence and inability to read a defese. The 7 year comment not only isn't clueless, it continues to prove what Tyrod is... An average starting but fantastic backup QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, BillsEnthusiast said: That scheme is dead (and also was criticized a lot if I remember right). I totally agree that we should have kept it. But, we didn't. McD tried a QB that was supposed to fit the scheme better. It didn't, but at least he TRIED. You don't start a fifth round rookie on the road when you are 5-4 and control the sixth seed. And TT played pretty well in the five wins and that jets loss. 1 minute ago, Bills Pimpin' said: Um.... How? He has been in the league for 7 years. Don't you think he would have played sooner than 5 years into his career if he was a great player? He is a sixth round pick who outplayed Matt Cassell and EJ Manual to get a starting gig on a perrenial loser with a dumb!@#$ coach and parlayed it into 20 wins by hard work and a good attitude and some leadership ability. And I'm actually impressed by the dude to be as successful as he is with limited size, questionable accuracy, terrible pocket presence and inability to read a defese. The 7 year comment not only isn't clueless, it continues to prove what Tyrod is... An average starting but fantastic backup QB. Joe Flacco won a SB and was pretty good when TT was there. No reason to start TT. I agree with your last line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watkins90 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 On 11/22/2017 at 9:46 AM, Scott7975 said: Let me try this another way... the Bills offense is 24th in 3 and outs per drive. The Jags offense is 22nd in 3 and outs per drive. Why isn't the Jags D tired and giving up 30 to 40 ppg? The reason is because their defense is good and the best in football right now at getting off the field on third down. Our defense is the worst at getting off the field on third down because they are bad. Which is all the more reason why the offense needs to pick up the slack. That Jags defense also has a lot more talent than we do because they have picked at the top of the draft the last couple of years and signed good free agents. Trying to compare us to Jacksonville is stupid. On 11/22/2017 at 9:06 AM, NoPlayoffs said: Other than a missed field goal, the Chargers scored on every single first half drive last week. The week before, the only thing that stopped the Saints from scoring on every single first half drive was a fumble and an end-of-the half kneeldown. Against the Jets, yes they scored 24 in the second half, but that was after a first half where TOP was close to 50/50 in the first half and we only had one three and out. I don't think your hypothesis holds any weight. The defense is just bad...it really hasn't had anything to do with the offense the last three weeks. Offense doesn’t score points, but it’s our defense that lost us games. Got it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, Watkins90 said: Which is all the more reason why the offense needs to pick up the slack. That Jags defense also has a lot more talent than we do because they have picked at the top of the draft the last couple of years and signed good free agents. Trying to compare us to Jacksonville is stupid. Offense doesn’t score points, but it’s our defense that lost us games. Got it!! The offense put up a lot of points the last two seasons when the defense was the main problem. The defense has been putrid of late. Jacksonville traded for a guy named Dareus. We sure couldn't use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesPlayoffs Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 18 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: That scheme is dead (and also was criticized a lot if I remember right). I totally agree that we should have kept it. But, we didn't. McD tried a QB that was supposed to fit the scheme better. It didn't, but at least he TRIED. "Try" doesn't cut it in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, NoPlayoffs said: "Try" doesn't cut it in the NFL. neither does standing pat and doing nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesPlayoffs Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: neither does standing pat and doing nothing. Of course not. "Improve" is what works in the NFL...if McDip**** want to "try" and fail, he can go coach a college team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: neither does standing pat and doing nothing. The offense put up a lot of points the last two seasons. It was good enough. So were the players. 3 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: neither does standing pat and doing nothing. Like keeping the same failed defensive scheme with no pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 6 minutes ago, NoPlayoffs said: Of course not. "Improve" is what works in the NFL...if McDip**** want to "try" and fail, he can go coach a college team. and you can't improve unless you try....see where I'm going with this? Would a picture help? 6 minutes ago, JM2009 said: The offense put up a lot of points the last two seasons. It was good enough. So were the players. Like keeping the same failed defensive scheme with no pass rush. We have no true game wrecker on the line anymore. I'm sure that the scheme would be fine with players beyond backup quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Forget the games up until now, forget the 5-2 start, forget the Saints game, forget the benching, forget the 5 INT and Taylor starting the second half. If the Bills turn it around and make the playoffs and TT does well (however unlikely) in the last six games, there will be reason to keep him regardless of the draft and rookie QB. If he doesnt excel, which is likely, and we dont make the playoffs he will not be a Bill in 2018. But that's exactly as it was when this season started. Nothing has really changed except indigestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 25 minutes ago, BillsEnthusiast said: and you can't improve unless you try....see where I'm going with this? Would a picture help? In a word: no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: So very witty. Yet another national clown that doesn’t watch games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: So very witty. Yet another national clown that doesn’t watch games And you know how many games these guys watch? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: And you know how many games these guys watch? ? I can guarantee you ZERO national analysts waste time watching the bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, joesixpack said: I can guarantee you ZERO national analysts waste time watching the bills. Another in an endless series of nonsense coming from you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, Kelly the Dog said: Another in an endless series of nonsense coming from you. Kelly, no offense, but if you think it’s nonsense that’s confirmation I’m right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, JM2009 said: It worked the last two seasons under a scheme that fit TT talents and the running game. They scored a lot of points. New-how about an O line that can block? Tyrod is on pace to have the same or close to the same statistical season that he’s had the last 2 years. The biggest difference is the running game. That’s been the reason our offense has been as good and as productive as it has been. Edited November 23, 2017 by Bangarang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Kelly, no offense, but if you think it’s nonsense that’s confirmation I’m right. No one covering the league watches the games the Bills are playing. Right. Carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YesPlayoffs Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, BillsEnthusiast said: and you can't improve unless you try....see where I'm going with this? Would a picture help? I guess you don't realize it, but the NFL is for people who try and succeed. That's why the salaries for head coaches are millions. Trying and failing shouldn't be encouraged...that's the reason for firing people. If you're fine with failure, then that's a "you" problem. 30 minutes ago, joesixpack said: I can guarantee you ZERO national analysts waste time watching the bills. I can guarantee that you don't know **** about what national analysts do. Edited November 23, 2017 by NoPlayoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 57 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Tyrod is on pace to have the same or close to the same statistical season that he’s had the last 2 years. The biggest difference is the running game. That’s been the reason our offense has been as good and as productive as it has been. True. And he played a big part in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Tyrod sucks...No he doesnt...Yes he does...No he doesnt...Yes he does...No he doesnt...Yes he does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Agenda reference #272949274. From Captain Agenda. 9 minutes ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: Tyrod sucks...No he doesnt...Yes he does...No he doesnt...Yes he does...No he doesnt...Yes he does You forgot QBR QBR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatonka68 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Tyrod makes the game unwatchable, I refuse to take part. How many check down throws can someone watch. I going to watch a movie instead. Bills cannot drop out of the playoff picture fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tatonka68 said: Tyrod makes the game unwatchable, I refuse to take part. How many check down throws can someone watch. I going to watch a movie instead. Bills cannot drop out of the playoff picture fast enough. But you watched the last game? Just now, ScottLaw said: One game where Tyrod plays awful and all of a sudden he checks down all the time? I think most most fans here are wasted when they are watching the games. He played pretty well in the five wins, ok in the Jets loss, and not so good in the other losses. But he is still their best option. The agenda people would have you believe he is 2-36 instead of 20-18. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Think about it this way. If Tyrod threw 5 picks per game he would have been off our squad long ago. Hardly the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Tyrod is on pace to have the same or close to the same statistical season that he’s had the last 2 years. The biggest difference is the running game. That’s been the reason our offense has been as good and as productive as it has been. He knows this. He just like to troll us with his agenda. It's like one of those spambots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 3 minutes ago, Air it out Fitzy said: He knows this. He just like to troll us with his agenda. It's like one of those spambots. Who on the roster since 2015 could have got 20 wins other than TT? You seem to think there is a QB that could. And TT played a big part in the running game doing well, in a different scheme. A banned poster shouldn't throw around the term agenda so easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Just now, JM2009 said: Who on the roster since 2015 could have got 20 wins other than TT? You seem to think there is a QB that could. And TT played a big part in the running game doing well, in a different scheme. A banned poster shouldn't throw around the term agenda so easily. Pick any NFL qb out of a hat and odds are that guy would ??♂️. Agenda man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, Air it out Fitzy said: Pick any NFL qb out of a hat and odds are that guy would ??♂️. Agenda man I said the Bills roster. The players we have to work with. Not one of them would have got 20 wins. But you seem to think there is one. name him. name the better option from the roster since 2015. 8 minutes ago, Air it out Fitzy said: Pick any NFL qb out of a hat and odds are that guy would ??♂️. Agenda man Like the Bears QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Watkins90 said: Offense doesn’t score points, but it’s our defense that lost us games. Got it!! The defense sure hasnt helped the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: One game where Tyrod plays awful and all of a sudden he checks down all the time? I think most most fans here are wasted when they are watching the games. some certainly gloss over the details.. 50 minutes ago, Air it out Fitzy said: Pick any NFL qb out of a hat and odds are that guy would ??♂️. Agenda man Not when playing behind that O line 25 minutes ago, THEHARDTRUTH said: The defense sure hasnt helped the cause. Team effort , perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 1 hour ago, ScottLaw said: I think most most fans here are wasted when they are watching the games. Watching the game makes me want to get wasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Pimpin' Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Does anyone care if Tyrod Taylor was the best QB on the roster in 2015 (he was) and how many games the Bills won when he started? (Not enough). Should the answer of these trivia questions have any bearing on the decision to play him at QB this week? Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 15 minutes ago, Bills Pimpin' said: Does anyone care if Tyrod Taylor was the best QB on the roster in 2015 (he was) and how many games the Bills won when he started? (Not enough). Should the answer of these trivia questions have any bearing on the decision to play him at QB this week? Of course not. Yes, because he still is the best QB on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 46 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: the last three weeks have been an epic disaster and I see no light at the end of the tunnel. It can't continue, can it? I need to check with some browns fans to find out how to cope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 6 minutes ago, dulles said: It can't continue, can it? I need to check with some browns fans to find out how to cope Build a graveyard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dulles Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 Just now, ShadyBillsFan said: Build a graveyard My sons have begun quoting that Bud Light commercial - The Pit of Misery - as a metaphor for Bills Fandom! Dilly Dilly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEHARDTRUTH Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 2 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: Team effort , perhaps? Absolutely. This team has multiple problems. Oline. Dline. Linebackers. Corner. Wr. Qb. Depth. They better be amazing at drafting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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