B-Man Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 LEGAL INSURRECTION: The Berniefication of the Democratic Party Is Almost Complete. Feinstein loses Cali Democrats, CAP pushes Medicare for All, and the DCCC attacks establishment Democrats By some accounts, Bernie might have had a real shot at the nomination in 2016, had it not been for rampant cheating at the DNC. But now that even the party’s national committee has been co-opted by the hard left, there’s no telling what kind of “democratic” socialist they could nominate for 2020. Or is there…? All Democrats — and their infotainment industry enablers — need to do is not act crazy, and they can’t even manage that. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 25 minutes ago, DC Tom said: Of course they do. Their definition of "honest" being "we win," of course. Any other result is "Russian hacking." Well after getting Russian help, having a gerrymandered house, the senate being a Conservative institution with all those rural states, you guys can't complain too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly101 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Liberals are so unhinged they think shouting, name calling, and race baiting on a off forum of an nfl team is somehow winning. It's yahoo to huff post to cnn to....here LOL. Have fun simpletons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 13 hours ago, B-Man said: LEGAL INSURRECTION: The Berniefication of the Democratic Party Is Almost Complete. Feinstein loses Cali Democrats, CAP pushes Medicare for All, and the DCCC attacks establishment Democrats By some accounts, Bernie might have had a real shot at the nomination in 2016, had it not been for rampant cheating at the DNC. But now that even the party’s national committee has been co-opted by the hard left, there’s no telling what kind of “democratic” socialist they could nominate for 2020. Or is there…? All Democrats — and their infotainment industry enablers — need to do is not act crazy, and they can’t even manage that. Yes. Because the establish Democrats have done a bang up job over the last decade. People underestimate Bernie like they underestimated Trump. They were both drawing 20k plus crowds and had the entire establishment against them. The difference is the DNC was better at rigging the primaries. If you want to win the white working class back, Bernie is your guy. If you want to continue playing identity politics and screaming how evil Trump is, take your pick of the litter of the other Dem candidates that will run. I just wish Bernie wasn't so fricken old and far to the left on certain issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 21 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: People underestimate Bernie like they underestimated Trump. They were both drawing 20k plus crowds and had the entire establishment against them. Bernie and Trump had something else in common. They were running against the worst major party Presidential candidate in at least my lifetime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, /dev/null said: Bernie and Trump had something else in common. They were running against the worst major party Presidential candidate in at least my lifetime In the history of American politics. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, /dev/null said: Bernie and Trump had something else in common. They were running against the worst major party Presidential candidate in at least my lifetime Carter McGovern Mondale Dukakis were way worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Yes. Because the establish Democrats have done a bang up job over the last decade. People underestimate Bernie like they underestimated Trump. They were both drawing 20k plus crowds and had the entire establishment against them. The difference is the DNC was better at rigging the primaries. If you want to win the white working class back, Bernie is your guy. If you want to continue playing identity politics and screaming how evil Trump is, take your pick of the litter of the other Dem candidates that will run. I just wish Bernie wasn't so fricken old and far to the left on certain issues. Sure, Bernie drew huge crowds of people who like free stuff. Bernie is lucky he got as far as he did because he was able to stop his campaign before he had to explain how any of his agenda was going to work. I still estimate Bernie to be a below standard candidate. And the difference between the Democratic Committee and the Republican Committee in the primaries was that the R's made a promise to run with Trump (if he won the primaries) if he made a promise not to run as a third party candidate (if he lost the primaries). The R's severely underestimated Trump and by the time they figured that out, it was too late. On the other hand, the D's used super delegates, a fawning press corps and rigged tactics to prop up their pre-chosen candidate -- how nice. Bernie, in response, scowled through the D convention, and then after the election he joined the Democratic leadership! What a sellout, phoney-baloney move. He might win the nomination by becoming an insider (or the next chosen one), but he won't ever get to the White House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Bernie is a commie. Although he ran as a democrat he got elected as a socialist , which is commie light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 22 minutes ago, Wacka said: Bernie is a commie. Although he ran as a democrat he got elected as a socialist , which is commie lite. Jiggly Jiggly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Doc Brown said: Yes. Because the establish Democrats have done a bang up job over the last decade. People underestimate Bernie like they underestimated Trump. They were both drawing 20k plus crowds and had the entire establishment against them. The difference is the DNC was better at rigging the primaries. If you want to win the white working class back, Bernie is your guy. If you want to continue playing identity politics and screaming how evil Trump is, take your pick of the litter of the other Dem candidates that will run. I just wish Bernie wasn't so fricken old and far to the left on certain issues. How were the primaries rigged? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Tiberius said: How were the primaries rigged? seemed at one point Bernie won 9 of 10 and he didn't gain any ground on her. and she lost primaries and CNN excitedly told us it didn't matter because of Super Delegates and Super Secret Delegates that were in her pocket already and the voters for Bernie realized it was rigged and didn't show up to vote for her, with totally impunity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 42 minutes ago, row_33 said: seemed at one point Bernie won 9 of 10 and he didn't gain any ground on her. and she lost primaries and CNN excitedly told us it didn't matter because of Super Delegates and Super Secret Delegates that were in her pocket already and the voters for Bernie realized it was rigged and didn't show up to vote for her, with totally impunity No, she just straight up won the most votes. The SDs were not a factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 i distinctly recall CNN telling me Bernie winning the primary was undercut by SuperDelegates already in her pocket those who wanted Bernie want ACTUAL CHANGE to TAKE EFFECT, not the same old same old neoliberal Clintonista talk talk talk and do nothing should be interesting to see if the real change people can take over the actual gears of the Democratic Party in the next decade, they cannot be ignored much longer... and it will destroy the Democratic Party, but it's deserved it for over 50 years now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, row_33 said: i distinctly recall CNN telling me Bernie winning the primary was undercut by SuperDelegates already in her pocket those who wanted Bernie want ACTUAL CHANGE to TAKE EFFECT, not the same old same old neoliberal Clintonista talk talk talk and do nothing should be interesting to see if the real change people can take over the actual gears of the Democratic Party in the next decade, they cannot be ignored much longer... and it will destroy the Democratic Party, but it's deserved it for over 50 years now.... She won the most votes. The Russians and GOP successfully made many people think Hillary stole the nomination. Probably a big factor in suppressing Hillary's turn out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 3 hours ago, row_33 said: Carter McGovern Mondale Dukakis were way worse Carter won in 1976 so there was a wose candidate McGivern is debatable. Terrible candidate but not despised on a bipartisan level like Hillary Mondale had the misfortune of running against Reagan in 1984. Even a strong Democratic nominee would have lost handily. Dukakis might have been a stronger candidate if he didn't have to run against the shadow of Reagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, /dev/null said: Carter won in 1976 so there was a wose candidate McGivern is debatable. Terrible candidate but not despised on a bipartisan level like Hillary Mondale had the misfortune of running against Reagan in 1984. Even a strong Democratic nominee would have lost handily. Dukakis might have been a stronger candidate if he didn't have to run against the shadow of Reagan Carter winning was a Timothy Leary "tune in turn on drop out" moment in the flesh... it doesn't really count... the biggest blip in US election history.... and c'mon, the Dems have lost 3 recent elections to W and Trump, who were totally laughed out of the park by all the geniuses.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 27, 2018 Author Share Posted February 27, 2018 CNN reports: [A new CNN] poll finds 54% of registered voters say they back a Democrat in their congressional district, 38% say they back a Republican. That’s a shift in favor of the Democrats since January, bringing their advantage in a hypothetical generic matchup to about the same level as early 2006, a year in which the party won control of both the House and the Senate. This also mirrors their advantage on the question last fall, before a January full of good economic news brought a shift toward more positive numbers for both President Donald Trump and his party. The same poll also found Trump’s approval rating declining — a metric that’s frequently closely tied to his party’s performance in a midterm election year. Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents are more excited (51 percent) about the election than are their GOP (41 percent) counterparts. 1 hour ago, /dev/null said: Carter won in 1976 so there was a wose candidate McGivern is debatable. Terrible candidate but not despised on a bipartisan level like Hillary Mondale had the misfortune of running against Reagan in 1984. Even a strong Democratic nominee would have lost handily. Dukakis might have been a stronger candidate if he didn't have to run against the shadow of Reagan And Bush Sr. was not a bad candidate at all. Pretty good actually. I voted for him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 6 hours ago, Tiberius said: How were the primaries rigged? Superdelegates all pledged for Clinton turns suppressing voter turnout, scheduled debates during prime time football games, and cable news wouldn't broadcast his rallies because they were all in for Clinton. She used her money and power to prevent more prominent Democrats from running against her (Biden, Warren, Hicklenhooper) which ironically helped Bernie who most of the country never even heard of. It it wasn't rigged, it was certainly clear that Democratic elites made Hillary's nomination as inevitable and preordained as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Superdelegates all pledged for Clinton turns suppressing voter turnout, scheduled debates during prime time football games, and cable news wouldn't broadcast his rallies because they were all in for Clinton. She used her money and power to prevent more prominent Democrats from running against her (Biden, Warren, Hicklenhooper) which ironically helped Bernie who most of the country never even heard of. It it wasn't rigged, it was certainly clear that Democratic elites made Hillary's nomination as inevitable and preordained as possible. You probably know this, but while people on the right are happy to show dysfunction in the DNC ranks, this is good for the Democratic party. The party forced Hillary, and most people know that Trump didn't win so much as Hillary lost. (Conversely, I would argue Obama won more than Romney or McCain lost). So the dysfunction is good as it tends to foster positive change. Unfortunately, your party will need to weed out the tiberius/gatorman/baskin/LA Grants, who simply believe the only reason the Democrats have been getting their asses handed to them is because their message is tilted by an overwhelmingly right-leaning media. We both know that's just small-minded thinking. Hopefully, for the sake of solid competition, debates and discussions, a more rational DNC will emerge instead away from the current far, far, far left elitists of Pelosi, Warren, Shumer. We laugh, but John McCain would make a great Democrat these days. Edited February 27, 2018 by LABillzFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 19 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: Superdelegates all pledged for Clinton turns suppressing voter turnout, scheduled debates during prime time football games, and cable news wouldn't broadcast his rallies because they were all in for Clinton. She used her money and power to prevent more prominent Democrats from running against her (Biden, Warren, Hicklenhooper) which ironically helped Bernie who most of the country never even heard of. It it wasn't rigged, it was certainly clear that Democratic elites made Hillary's nomination as inevitable and preordained as possible. Hillary snubbed the 46% of primary voters by pretending Sanders didn't exist at all. Any nod to this wing, even a fake one she never intended to carry out, probably would have given her an easy win. Heh.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 12 hours ago, row_33 said: Carter McGovern Mondale Dukakis were way worse None of them lived in a hollowed out volcano lair. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 34 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said: None of them lived in a hollowed out volcano lair. Gary Hart might have, though. Of course Mondale didn't. Hell, he could have made a hollowed-out volcano lair look bland and uninteresting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, LABillzFan said: You probably know this, but while people on the right are happy to show dysfunction in the DNC ranks, this is good for the Democratic party. The party forced Hillary, and most people know that Trump didn't win so much as Hillary lost. (Conversely, I would argue Obama won more than Romney or McCain lost). So the dysfunction is good as it tends to foster positive change. Unfortunately, your party will need to weed out the tiberius/gatorman/baskin/LA Grants, who simply believe the only reason the Democrats have been getting their asses handed to them is because their message is tilted by an overwhelmingly right-leaning media. We both know that's just small-minded thinking. Hopefully, for the sake of solid competition, debates and discussions, a more rational DNC will emerge instead away from the current far, far, far left elitists of Pelosi, Warren, Shumer. We laugh, but John McCain would make a great Democrat these days. And Russia of course. McCain is a Democrat some days and a Republican on others. I would argue that the Tea Party pushed the Republican party to the right and a lot of the infighting among the Republicans turned out to be a good thing. They got Boehner out of there and now I see Democrats are pushing to get Pelosi out so there is some hope. Distancing themselves from the Clinton's would be helpful. There's going to be a lot of candidates this time around for 2020 which will allow Democrats to decide which candidate best represents what way their party wants to go. If free college is on their platform I'm not fricken voting. Edited February 28, 2018 by Doc Brown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 THE NRCC has dropped another $578,667 on media opposing Democrat Conor Lamb in Pennsylvania, according to an FEC filing made public today. Again: this is a district Republicans have won with somewhere around 60 percent when contested. The last two cycles, Democrats didn’t challenge Rep. Tim Murphy there. https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook-power-briefing/2018/02/27/paul-ryan-gun-control-251562 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Gees, if Dems pull off a win here, then the hopes of Texas dumping sh it eater Ted Cruz increase https://www.cookpolitical.com/analysis/house/pennsylvania-house/pa-18-special-election-moves-lean-republican-toss Quote It's not normal for Republicans to be worried about losing a seat President Trump carried by 20 points. But with two weeks to go before the March 13 special election, Republican state Rep. Rick Saccone is locked in an extremely close contest against Democratic prosecutor/Marine veteran Conor Lamb, who has significantly outspent him. We're moving the race from Lean Republican to Toss Up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 Pew Research Center reports: Millennials are on the cusp of surpassing Baby Boomers as the nation’s largest living adult generation, according to population projections from the U.S. Census Bureau. As of July 1, 2016 (the latest date for which population estimates are available), Millennials, whom we define as ages 20 to 35 in 2016, numbered 71 million, and Boomers (ages 52 to 70) numbered 74 million. Millennials are expected to overtake Boomers in population in 2019 as their numbers swell to 73 million and Boomers decline to 72 million. Generation X (ages 36 to 51 in 2016) is projected to pass the Boomers in population by 2028. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 Hey, Alabama went blue, why not Mississippi?? https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/mississippis-sen-thad-cochran-to-resign-from-the-senate-after-four-decade-congressional-career/2018/03/05/be8477d4-20c0-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html?utm_term=.971aaa65adef Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) will resign from the Senate on April 1, he announced Monday, ending a four-decade congressional career and triggering a fall election that could carve new divisions in the Republican Party and put the GOP Senate majority at greater risk. Cochran, 80, has been suffering from health problems in recent months. He missed several weeks in the Senate last fall while recuperating from a urinary tract infection. He has appeared frail since his return and has been keeping a low public profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6, 2018 Author Share Posted March 6, 2018 Quote Texas voters are at the polls Tuesday to finish casting the first congressional primary ballots of this year’s midterm elections, and a surge in Democratic turnout during two weeks of early voting already has some predicting a leftward move for the reliably Republican state. According to figures published over the weekend by the Texas secretary of state’s office, of the 885,574 ballots already cast in the state’s 15 largest counties, more than 52 percent were for Democrats — a major jump from the last midterm primary. In 2014, only 592,153 early ballots were cast in those counties, with Republican voters accounting for nearly 62 percent of the votes. “There’s something different going on in Texas this cycle,” said David Wasserman, who analyzes House races for the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. “It’s a uniquely anti-Trump state, because it has a rare combination of diversity and a suburban professional class.And, in that sense, it’s becoming a little bit more like California every year.” California! The great state of diversity! The thriving state that is attracting everyone! https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/texas-primaries-are-an-early-test-of-democratic-voter-enthusiasm/2018/03/05/96fc80aa-20c3-11e8-badd-7c9f29a55815_story.html?utm_term=.537de670c177 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Despite improved Dem showing, Texas GOP sets midterm record https://nypost.com/2018/03/07/despite-improved-dem-showing-texas-gop-sets-midterm-record/?utm_source=facebook_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site buttons&utm_campaign=site buttons For all the talk of renewed Democratic energy heading into the 2018 midterms, Texas Republicans have set a new benchmark for turnout in a midterm election. More than 1.5 million people voted Tuesday in the Republican primary for U.S. Senate, won by incumbent Ted Cruz. That beats the previous record of 1.48 million in 2010, during former President Barack Obama’s first term. The 2010 election was a massive wave for Republicans, who took control of the U.S. House. Texas remains a deeply conservative state that hasn’t elected a Democrat statewide since 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 A favorite tactic.................. A FAKE REPUBLICAN RUNS IN MINNESOTA The GOP has an opportunity to pick up a Senate seat in Minnesota. After the Democrats forced Al Franken out of office, Governor Mark Dayton appointed his Lieutenant Governor, Tina Smith, to serve until the general election in November. Smith is a little-known and rather faceless office-holder. As an urban leftist with questionable ties, e.g. as a former senior executive of Planned Parenthood, she is vulnerable. The question for Republicans is whether we have a strong candidate. Tim Pawlenty chose to run for governor rather than senator, so the most credible candidate so far is Karin Housley, a state senator who may be best known as the wife of Phil Housley, perhaps the best hockey player Minnesota has produced. Now a guy named Richard Painter has stepped into the perceived vacuum and thrown his hat into the ring. Who is Richard Painter? He is a classic fake Republican. At one time, he held an “ethics” position in the George W. Bush administration, and he has parlayed that brief tenure into a career of Republican-bashing. We all know the type: a nominal Republican who probably hasn’t voted for a GOP candidate in a long time, but who sucks up time on cable news, trading on his supposed status as a Republican to lend weight to his attacks on actual Republicans. It is, frankly, a despicable species. Over the last fourteen months, Painter has devoted himself to unhinged attacks on President Trump. Paul wrote about Painter’s baseless claims against Trump here. A Republican activist in Minnesota–a real Republican, in other words–sent us these comments on Painter. Copious footnotes are omitted: What do you call someone who campaigns for Democrats, is vice chair of a left-wing “watchdog” group, voted for Hillary Clinton and then, atop his sinecure as a publicly paid university law professor, filed a lawsuit against President Trump less than a month into his administration? Why, if you’re the Minnesota media, he of course is simply described as “a top ethics scholar who worked as Republican President George W. Bush’s chief ethics lawyer from 2005 to 2007.” Star Tribune pseudo columnist C.J., in her usual understatement for all things liberal, gushes over the “reasonable Republican” and “U corporate law professor and network TV political pundit who’s all over the flat screen.” As I said, there is a demand for fake Republicans on Democratic Party cable news shows. more at the link: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/03/a-fake-republican-runs-in-minnesota.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 hours ago, B-Man said: A favorite tactic.................. A FAKE REPUBLICAN RUNS IN MINNESOTA The GOP has an opportunity to pick up a Senate seat in Minnesota. After the Democrats forced Al Franken out of office, Governor Mark Dayton appointed his Lieutenant Governor, Tina Smith, to serve until the general election in November. Smith is a little-known and rather faceless office-holder. As an urban leftist with questionable ties, e.g. as a former senior executive of Planned Parenthood, she is vulnerable. The question for Republicans is whether we have a strong candidate. Tim Pawlenty chose to run for governor rather than senator, so the most credible candidate so far is Karin Housley, a state senator who may be best known as the wife of Phil Housley, perhaps the best hockey player Minnesota has produced. Now a guy named Richard Painter has stepped into the perceived vacuum and thrown his hat into the ring. Who is Richard Painter? He is a classic fake Republican. At one time, he held an “ethics” position in the George W. Bush administration, and he has parlayed that brief tenure into a career of Republican-bashing. We all know the type: a nominal Republican who probably hasn’t voted for a GOP candidate in a long time, but who sucks up time on cable news, trading on his supposed status as a Republican to lend weight to his attacks on actual Republicans. It is, frankly, a despicable species. Over the last fourteen months, Painter has devoted himself to unhinged attacks on President Trump. Paul wrote about Painter’s baseless claims against Trump here. A Republican activist in Minnesota–a real Republican, in other words–sent us these comments on Painter. Copious footnotes are omitted: What do you call someone who campaigns for Democrats, is vice chair of a left-wing “watchdog” group, voted for Hillary Clinton and then, atop his sinecure as a publicly paid university law professor, filed a lawsuit against President Trump less than a month into his administration? Why, if you’re the Minnesota media, he of course is simply described as “a top ethics scholar who worked as Republican President George W. Bush’s chief ethics lawyer from 2005 to 2007.” Star Tribune pseudo columnist C.J., in her usual understatement for all things liberal, gushes over the “reasonable Republican” and “U corporate law professor and network TV political pundit who’s all over the flat screen.” As I said, there is a demand for fake Republicans on Democratic Party cable news shows. more at the link: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/03/a-fake-republican-runs-in-minnesota.php Let me be the first to congratulate Baskin on his Senate campaign... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Axios Poll Shows Five Democrat Senators Losing if Elections Held Today FOUR of the Democrats lost to generic Republicans. (more…) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 13 hours ago, B-Man said: Axios Poll Shows Five Democrat Senators Losing if Elections Held Today FOUR of the Democrats lost to generic Republicans. (more…) It's not a good cycle for Senate Dems. The House is the big hope, as long as the vote isn't hacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, Tiberius said: It's not a good cycle for Senate Dems. The House is the big hope, as long as the vote isn't hacked. Yes, clearly the only reason that Democrats will lose is because elections are "hacked". It certainly cannot be the result of bad candidates espousing nonsense with no real platform other than stupid social media hashtags such as #RESIST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Koko78 said: Yes, clearly the only reason that Democrats will lose is because elections are "hacked". It certainly cannot be the result of bad candidates espousing nonsense with no real platform other than stupid social media hashtags such as #RESIST. The Russians have tried already and Trump isn't doing anything to stop them. And I know you hate the Democrats, no need to spew your ignorance to reinforce that fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Tiberius said: The Russians have tried already and Trump isn't doing anything to stop them. And I know you hate the Democrats, no need to spew your ignorance to reinforce that fact. Why should Trump do any more than Obama to stop them? Actually, what do you really propose that Trump do about it? Declare martial law and take over all 50 state governments? Repeal the 1st Amendment to prevent anyone from spending money to influence elections? Nuclear strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 15 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Why should Trump do any more than Obama to stop them? Actually, what do you really propose that Trump do about it? Declare martial law and take over all 50 state governments? Repeal the 1st Amendment to prevent anyone from spending money to influence elections? Nuclear strike? Obama did more, he enforced the sanctions congress passed and did other things also. On top of that we know more now about the extent of the attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Tiberius said: Obama did more, he enforced the sanctions congress passed and did other things also. On top of that we know more now about the extent of the attack Yeah, Obama telling his agencies to stand down was really doing "more". So what's your plan of how Trump is supposed to do something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, Koko78 said: Yeah, Obama telling his agencies to stand down was really doing "more". So what's your plan of how Trump is supposed to do something? Stand down? Is that a lie? Shoring up up the voting systems to make sure they don't get hacked would be a good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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