Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Im in the jurys out group with a slight lean towards yes. Hes as good as a lot of the QBs in the league and gives his team a chance unless they are awful (see last night). He has some shortcomings but outside of 2 or 3 guys everyone does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Im going to say hes not a franchise QB. Thanks Ill hang up and listen now Bwahahahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreigner Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 What is he now 47 passing TDs, 11 rushing TDs or something like that and 14 INTs as a starter on non playoff teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 What is he now 47 passing TDs, 11 rushing TDs or something like that and 14 INTs as a starter on non playoff teams. If he were a franchise QB, he would have stats approaching those in a season, not 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulbills Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 15-20 for over 100 yards and a TD before the wheels came off this team Sounds like an average Tyrod game, less than 200 yds passing, 1 TD and less than 30 attempts, you're telling me his best came before garbage time when we only put up 7 pts in 3 quarters and not 14 in the 4th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Sounds like an average Tyrod game, less than 200 yds passing, 1 TD and less than 30 attempts, you're telling me his best came before garbage time when we only put up 7 pts in 3 quarters and not 14 in the 4th? Im not telling you anything.....im posting a fact...sorry a stat.....he was actually 1 point less or more in rating after garbage time......285 yards total....29-40 entire game with 2 TD and 1 rushing TD.....take it however you want......there you go...... Edited November 3, 2017 by JPP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Wow. Is not obvious to you Throw the ball away. Except on most of the sacks he didn't even have time to do that. This is not a game to bash TT after. I am not a huge fan, but to evaluate his ability to play in a dumpster fire game is unfair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Tyrod is NOT a franchise QB. He is an acergae QB at best. Hope the FO has a good plan for the QB situation next year. Either draft or go for a guy like Cousins or a crazy trade like Cam Newton or Andrew Luck. We have to do Something because Tyrod is NOT the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Haha, franchise QB? Sure the Bills thing to do is resign him to a higher contract then when this staff gets fired for no playoffs we can continue paying him when the next staff dumps him. Wash repeat Maybe someday we will draft a franchise worthy QB until then we still have no end in sight trying to find a franchise worthy QB because Tyrod is no different then Fitz or Trent, got the stats but when needed can't get enough done to get the wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Tyrod is NOT a franchise QB. He is an acergae QB at best. Hope the FO has a good plan for the QB situation next year. Either draft or go for a guy like Cousins or a crazy trade like Cam Newton or Andrew Luck. We have to do Something because Tyrod is NOT the answer.Great take since the start of last season:Cam - 54.6%, 271 total yards a game, 37 TDs, 28 turnovers Tyrod - 62.9%, 237 total yards a game, 35 TDs, 11 turnovers You guys need to watch more football!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I'm off the opinion that there are only ever maybe 3-5 "franchise QB's" in the league at any one time and they are the elite of the elite. I find people like to equate every starting QB as a franchise guy similar to how in baseball every team has an "ace" but very few are actually what you would call an ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Great take since the start of last season: Cam - 54.6%, 271 total yards a game, 37 TDs, 28 turnovers Tyrod - 62.9%, 237 total yards a game, 35 TDs, 11 turnovers You guys need to watch more football!! I watch enough football to know a few of those Newton turnovers are tough to pin on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) I watch enough football to know a few of those Newton turnovers are tough to pin on him.Okay but he is currently leading the league in INTs. His TD:turnover is 1.48:1. Tyrod is at 3.18:1. Thats WAY different. Edited November 3, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Okay but he is currently leading the league in INTs. His TD:turnover is 1.48:1. Tyrod is at 3.18:1. Thats WAY different.One is a playoff QB proven by a solid season the other can't even get a wild card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 (edited) Im in the jurys out group with a slight lean towards yes. Hes as good as a lot of the QBs in the league and gives his team a chance unless they are awful (see last night). He has some shortcomings but outside of 2 or 3 guys everyone does. I generally agree with this, and would suggest that last night he may have been the best option on the planet (not named Brady) given the poor OLine play in front of him. Geez, I didnt realize how good his numbers were in that fire drill.... Edited November 3, 2017 by Augie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 One is a playoff QB proven by a solid season the other can't even get a wild card.Look at the above and start watching and learning football. Almost every post from you is wrong. You may have the least accurate takes on this entire board. If you can look at the last year and a half and say that Cam is a franchise QB now but Tyrod cant be you arent paying attention. You lie but numbers dont. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 Okay but he is currently leading the league in INTs. His TD:turnover is 1.48:1. Tyrod is at 3.18:1. Thats WAY different. It's true that Newton has been playing sub average of late, and I'm not saying Taylor doesn't protect the ball well. It's one of his best attributes. But contextually speaking there are QBs responsible for a significantly heavier load of their offense, and the various throws/decisions and resultant turnovers that such responsibility entails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 One is a playoff QB proven by a solid season the other can't even get a wild card. Yeah, because we’re going to ignore the other billion factors involved. Why not? What have you done for me lately also comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 No he is not. 7 sacks because hes too gunshy to pull the trigger at the end of his dropback. This statement alone either shows you cant move past your biased hatred or you actually dont understand football. To put the 7 sacks on him is beyond stupid. Our OL was DOMINATED last night, and its not even debatable. TT took a lot of big hits standing in there and delivering the ball too beyond the 7 sacks. In fact, if not for TT there probably would have been 12 sacks. Sure, a couple of them didnt happen right after the snap, but to throw your guys also have to be open, so not even fair to just default to its TT fault without first looking if he had anywhere to go with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 It's true that Newton has been playing sub average of late, and I'm not saying Taylor doesn't protect the ball well. It's one of his best attributes. But contextually speaking there are QBs responsible for a significantly heavier load of their offense, and the various throws/decisions and resultant turnovers that such responsibility entails.Thats why I painted the whole picture. Cam is absolutely less efficient but isnt much different in terms of the gross stats on the positive side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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