Turk71 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 This is what I figured.......and that leaves them without much speed/quickness in a 3 WR set. I think Matthews was probably gone after the season either way but I think getting Benjamin makes it far more likely because IMO you want to have Benjamin working on the same side as another receiver(Z) so you can run some route combinations to give him separation. The X position should be for your field stretcher, IMO. Matthews ran 4.44 and his low 4.34. Jones ran 4.45 and his low was 4.38. That sounds pretty fast to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I kinda like Matthews. Will be interesting to see what happens in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 You need to read/listen more critically. They said they were pleased with the strides Dareus had been making. That does not mean "Yep, we're totally happy with where he's at and we're keeping him, 100%!" Beane said he did not "expect" any more moves yesterday. That does not mean "Hey, FO staff and reporters: Shut it down guys, go home. My phone is in airplane mode the rest of the day and I'm going to Bed Bath & Beyond with the missus." This. I can't believe someone accused him of LYING about not making a move before the deadline. He said he didn't expect any moves. The trade was made at the very last minute. How would he even know it could be done? @buffalobills Kelvin Benjamin has arrived. #GoBills Man, he sure looks good for a guy I keep hearing is tremendously overweight. Exactly what I was thinking. Fat load! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Anyone who doesn't think Taylor's fashion sense is awesome has no fashion sense. Love his suits. Even that green one he wore once! TT is sharp. Edited November 1, 2017 by Domdab99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Anyone who doesn't think Taylor's fashion sense isn't awesome has no fashion sense. Love his suits. Even that green one he wore once! TT is sharp. Very much the case. The best dressed on the team by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Matthews ran 4.44 and his low 4.34. Jones ran 4.45 and his low was 4.38. That sounds pretty fast to me. I’m not saying this is inaccurate, just surprised Matthews ran that fast. He doesn’t seem to display that kind of speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Good to know we have fashion experts on the board.☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Anyone who doesn't think Taylor's fashion sense is awesome has no fashion sense. Love his suits. Even that green one he wore once! TT is sharp. I like it, too. But fine line between Benrus and Huggy Bear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Very much the case. The best dressed on the team by far. I liked what Orton was wearing. But he seems to have been spritzing some..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Im not saying this is inaccurate, just surprised Matthews ran that fast. He doesnt seem to display that kind of speed. Straight line track speed doesn t always translate to the field but a lot of people saying how slow they are made me investigate. Edited November 1, 2017 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Who mentioned Watkins first in this thread!? I have a few guesses! Rams play the Giants this week and Janoris Jenkins is suspended, bump that Sammy Watch thread and claim victory!!! Benjamin is a much better player. Better blocker for a running offense and a red zone target for a QB who leaned on a less talented Justin Hunter successfully last year in the same role. Push on McBeane they will see the light soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Yea but Sammy had major injury questions and was gone after the year or would cost huge $$.. Also we got an immediate starting CB and 2nd Rd pick.. I think Zay hasn't produced as envisioned and when Matthews and Clay were out, we were too thin at WR to win consistently.. Even if this was the case, Bills still won imo.. We essentially Gave up Sammy + a 3rd (1of2) , for Benjamin/Gaines and a 2nd ,I'd take the latter all day.. Not only that, but the bridge was burned by both sides last year. I highly doubt they regret trading Sammy, not at all...but they did see a need to add more talent to the WR corp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Personally I think they should have KB and Deonte Thompson outside with Matthews starting in the slot. You have the speed guy in DT, the size guy in KB, and a tough matchup in the slot in JM. Zay can get in on 4-WR sets and then take over the slot next year when I expect they'll let JM walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Cam Newton: 'You can't replace' a Kelvin Benjamin Cam Newton spoke for the first time Wednesday about Kelvin Benjamin being traded by the Carolina Panthers to the Buffalo Bills. "It's gone, it's done, it's over with," he says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Another way of looking at it. McBeane basically made the following player-for-player trade... CB Ron Darby and QB Cardale Jones FOR WR Kelvin Benjamin and WR Jordan Matthews Fair enuf but there's another take imo. Lots here wanted Mike Williams in the last draft (with reason, and he went high in the first round). Williams and KB are basically the same receiver type. They beat up on smaller corners and win jump balls/ are redzone targets. True Williams is a bit faster but Benjamin is experienced and has already proven that he can not only play but excel in this League and even the most talented rooks have some bust/underperformance risk associated with them. And KB is only 26. So I think we traded a third and a seventh (both bearing some performance risk) for a high first rounder viz the 2017 class at least that is a more proven commodity. And Beane saying that they had a mid- first round grade on him in the 2014 class is saying a lot.The question in my mind is whether Tyrod has the stones to throw it to him when he does not gain much separation. Edited November 1, 2017 by starrymessenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cd1 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Matthews ran 4.44 and his low 4.34. Jones ran 4.45 and his low was 4.38. That sounds pretty fast to me. Lets not forget Deonte Thompson - 4.31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Dude was a perfect fit for Buffalo. I wish he was my neighbor, two doors down though. Very delighted about Kelvin being a Bill. I wanted to say it again in case no one read threw the thread and the other five times i said that. Rare occasion something pushes all the right buttons for me with Bills. I wonder how long they have been working this deal? seriously. Hope all learn to love the Kid in a couple years. Hope he earns the extension we know we already want him to get lol. Beane scores bonus points on this one tactically. No Tank for you Bills Fans! fooled everyone. EVERYONE Now Tyrod ? go get them extra reps with your boys Go Bills ! Edited November 1, 2017 by 3rdand12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Lets not forget Deonte Thompson - 4.31 I remember being impressed by Thompson and disappointed when the Bills let him go. Glad he is back, hope he sticks and gets some opportunity. The Bills suddenly have a pretty solid group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 This is what I figured.......and that leaves them without much speed/quickness in a 3 WR set. I think Matthews was probably gone after the season either way but I think getting Benjamin makes it far more likely because IMO you want to have Benjamin working on the same side as another receiver(Z) so you can run some route combinations to give him separation. The X position should be for your field stretcher, IMO. I do not think we have really seen enough from Matthews whilst in Buffalo to have a fair opinion. Lets keep in mind when his injury occurred and how he played through that. I imagine that sternum is lingering all season. I see why you consider him gone theoretically for sure. and yes speed must be available. Deonte is not that guy for you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) Personally I think they should have KB and Deonte Thompson outside with Matthews starting in the slot. You have the speed guy in DT, the size guy in KB, and a tough matchup in the slot in JM. Zay can get in on 4-WR sets and then take over the slot next year when I expect they'll let JM walk. That sounds pretty good, Jones can have a little more time to acclimate and develop. He broke records as a slot receiver in college and has been playing as a wideout mostly this year. Edited November 1, 2017 by Turk71 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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