BringBackOrton Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Yes..offense that was ranked 9th last year but is now playing without Woods & Sammy at WR...and awful pass protection...but ya lets blame QB Last year LeSean McCoy averaged 30 more yards per game on the ground. I think that's made more of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Uh you posted this before and I posted the actual statistic on it. Last year 5/12 Qbs met that criteria. 5 years ago 4/12 Qbs met that criteria. So no, almost every QB in the playoffs did not have 4000+ and 28+ TD's. Thank you for looking that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 What a frustrating topic. Why fans can't find themselves in the middle where the truth lies is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 If we had a 300 QB on this team with this D this team would be unstoppable and dominating teams unlike the close wish for 50+ yard field goals. Why are you and others so quick to make this proclamation? I am not even a big Tyrod fan but the best part of his game is that he does not turn the ball over much. He is an athletic game manager who sometimes extends drives with his feet and he can throw a pretty long ball. That's his game and as much as we might want there to be more there is'nt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Yes..offense that was ranked 9th last year but is now playing without Woods & Sammy at WR...and awful pass protection...but ya lets blame QB .....Train Wrecks defense deserves a chunk of credit......could care less if offense was ranked 25th, get me to the playoffs after 17 years no matter how ugly it has to be.....Dilfer got a ring redefining offensive ugly...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Tyrod was able to get chunk yardage against the Dolphins last year when we needed it. I don't know how much we can expect from an offense with Zay Jones and Andre Holmes as our top 2 receivers. Kaelin Clay is our sole deep threat. I'm sure Brady and Brees would make it work, besides that I really don't know. Even Rodgers and the Packers offense have been struggling this season because their offensive line is in shambles. So I agree with you that sometimes an offense needs to go into pass-happy mode and score quickly, I just don't think Tyrod is the main thing holding us back from that. It's all a balance. I think it's fair to say he needs more than the top 5-10 guys do and that's not roasting him as a flop. It would be Alex smith like. You can win a lot with him but until he shows he can be in that next tier I think it's fair to question him some still. Tyrods more elite role player than elite centerpiece right now. Maybe when those big moments come up he will consistently step up and prove otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 It's all a balance. I think it's fair to say he needs more than the top 5-10 guys do and that's not roasting him as a flop. It would be Alex smith like. You can win a lot with him but until he shows he can be in that next tier I think it's fair to question him some still. Tyrods more elite role player than elite centerpiece right now. Maybe when those big moments come up he will consistently step up and prove otherwise. This is all fair. I would never try to say Tyrod is elite or a top 5 QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Carson Wentz and Andy Dalton threw for 300 yards today... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Carson Wentz and Andy Dalton threw for 300 yards today... As did Big Ben in his 30-9 loss against Bortles who threw 95 yards today. Palmer threw for 291 yards and only scored 7 points. 300 passing yards does not correlate with winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Carson Wentz and Andy Dalton threw for 300 yards today... And not coincidentally won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 A great stat supplied by Rich Gosselin today There have been 30 individual 300-yard passing games this season. Quarterbacks having those games have a combined record of 16-14. (Listen to WGR complain our wins dont have a 300yrd passer) There have been 18 100-yard rushing games this season. Running backs having those games have a combined record of 17-1 this season. Also of Note: Only two NFL defenses have not allowed a 300-yard passer, a 100-yard receiver or a 100-yard rusher this season – Buffalo and Denver. The Broncos lead the NFL in defense and the Bills rank ninth. Both teams are 3-1. http://www.talkoffamenetwork.com/sunday-gps-eyes-dallas-packers-visit/ I wonder what teams records are when passing for less than 200 yards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 I wonder what teams records are when passing for less than 200 yards Seattle is currently 20-8 (including playoffs) when Wilson passes for less than 200 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 As did Big Ben in his 30-9 loss against Bortles who threw 95 yards today. Palmer threw for 291 yards and only scored 7 points. 300 passing yards does not correlate with winning. Tyrod passed for 166 and lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Tyrod passed for 166 and lost. Big Ben passed for 300 and lost by a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Tyrod passed for 166 and lost. I thought passing for low yardage is good? This thread is confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Tyrod passed for 166 and lost. With zero WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 With zero WRs. Why is this a more likely explanation than it being Tyrod's fault? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Why is this a more likely explanation than it being Tyrod's fault? Always excuses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Seattle is currently 20-8 (including playoffs) when Wilson passes for less than 200 yards. Thats great got info on 30 more teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 8, 2017 Share Posted October 8, 2017 Thats great got info on 30 more teams No my friend. I am not going to waste more of my time. If you want the info go dig it up like I just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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