Bleed Bills Blue Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) Lots of Bills-related stories surrounding recent NFL events. Here's another. I've always admired Jack Kemp, both for his football career and and after. Some of this "ancient history" may be unfamiliar to younger Bills fans. I think it prompts the questions: What exactly are you protesting, and what exactly will you accomplish by it? "The 1964 American Football League All-Star Game was scheduled to be held in New Orleans in January, 1965. Kemp and team-mates Ernie Warlick and Cookie Gilchrist were members of the Eastern Division team. When they arrived at the New Orleans airport, Gilchrist and Warlick hailed a nearby cab. The cabbie told Gilchrist: “You have to take a colored cab”, to which Cookie replied “I don’t care what color it is, we just want a cab!” The driver explained that they had to wait for a cab used only for black patrons. He peered out at Kemp, though, and said “I’ll take you.” Kemp replied that if the cab was too good for his friends, it wasn’t good enough for him. After similar treatment of the black players at their hotel and other Big Easy establishments, Kemp joined with the rest of the white players on the squad to support the black players in their boycott of the city. In an early civil rights stand, the players held out and the game was moved to Houston." https://spectator.org/boycott-the-nfl/ Edited September 26, 2017 by Bleed Bills Blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 That's a good story. Not sure what you're asking, though. Would Jack Kemp kneel during the National Anthem? I'm guessing he would if he felt it accomplished something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Another good story When Buffalo (UB) Declined the 1958 Tangerine Bowl to Protest Racism But not long after the Bulls agreed to play, Tangerine Bowl officials informed Buffalo that the local school district, which operated the host stadium in Orlando, Fla., banned integrated games. The players were left to decide whether to play without Evans and Mike Wilson — the two African-Americans on the team. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/sports/ncaafootball/16buffalo.html?mcubz=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 (edited) America desperately needs Republicans like Jack Kemp today. Heck, the Dems need more Kemps. Edited September 26, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 GOP is on the ropes. But I agree, smart and respectable men on BOTH sides of the aisle are always a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 He would never throw long on third and short. Too conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Another good story When Buffalo (UB) Declined the 1958 Tangerine Bowl to Protest Racism But not long after the Bulls agreed to play, Tangerine Bowl officials informed Buffalo that the local school district, which operated the host stadium in Orlando, Fla., banned integrated games. The players were left to decide whether to play without Evans and Mike Wilson the two African-Americans on the team. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/sports/ncaafootball/16buffalo.html?mcubz=1 The board righties called. Said this is different now. Nobody back then sided with the segregationists. They didn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The board righties called. Said this is different now. Nobody back then sided with the segregationists. They didn't exist. The segregationists were all Democrats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The segregationists were all Democrats. SOUTHERN Democrats. Who would be repubs today. Dems were fracturing... On Civil rights. Then DixieCrats, they Found the Repubs. Ideology is flipped flopped. Ideology evolves, names stay the same. Lincoln was a repub, a federalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 SOUTHERN Democrats. Who would be repubs today. Dems were fracturing... On Civil rights. Then DixieCrats, they Found the Repubs. Ideology is flipped flopped. Ideology evolves, names stay the same. Lincoln was a repub, a federalist. Thank you. That is such a garbage, lazy, disingenuous argument most of the time it is used like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The two situations are not comparable. Kemp encountered actual racism and discrimination. Today's protesters deal with nothing of the sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 The two situations are not comparable. Kemp encountered actual racism and discrimination. Today's protesters deal with nothing of the sort. Kemp dealt with de jure racism. It's gone de facto now. Slipped underground. You would see it today unless you hopped on that bike path to Worcester. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 SOUTHERN Democrats. Who would be repubs today. Dems were fracturing... On Civil rights. Then DixieCrats, they Found the Repubs. Ideology is flipped flopped. Ideology evolves, names stay the same. Lincoln was a repub, a federalist. Yup. The Southern Strategy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherpa Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Kemp was a smart guy with a deep concern for racial issues. He would probably think there was a much better strategy to deal with the issue than doing something silly during the national anthem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Thank you. That is such a garbage, lazy, disingenuous argument most of the time it is used like that. Actually, that's revisionism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Actually, that's revisionism. Amen. Its the "flip flop", southern, fairy tale that is actually the garbage, lazy, disingenuous argument But the left clings to it like a life preserver. GOP is on the ropes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Actually, that's revisionism. No. It's not. You're an idiot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 No. It's not. You're an idiot: Yes, it is. If you'd like a history lesson, I can give you one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Yes, it is. If you'd like a history lesson, I can give you one.Just not an honest, fair one. Are you saying George Wallace would have been a Democrat is he were a politician today? "If any demonstrator lays down in front of my car, it will be the last car he lays down in front of." That guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted September 26, 2017 Share Posted September 26, 2017 Just not an honest, fair one. Are you saying George Wallace would have been a Democrat is he were a politician today? "If any demonstrator lays down in front of my car, it will be the last car he lays down in front of." That guy? I'll take your lead in as a rejection of the olive branch and my offer of a return to civility? To your second paragraph: I don't remember mentioning George Wallace. I think you're the first to bring him up. Is it your assertion that someone espousing his views would be welcomed as a representative of the Republican Party? My assertion is that the narrative of a migration of racists into the Republican Party over civil rights is historically inaccurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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