reddogblitz Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Clay had his hands on it. Catch the damm ball No kidding. It bounced off of his hands. Because I already know the one who, after 6 years in the league, isn't taking any team beyond a .500-ish season. How ish is 500ish? In 30 games, the Bills have a .533 winning percentage with Hotrod under center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 you don't watch much football do you? I did the stat comparison and TT outplayed Cam last year by so much including Cam's MVP season only some of his numbers were better. If you don't like Tyrod you would despise Cam and his sub 60% completion percentage. You know if you watched him play at all. Wow, that Cam guy sounds terrible. Carolina should trade us Cam for Tyrod, straight up. Think Carolina will do it? I didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 How ish is 500ish? In 30 games, the Bills have a .533 winning percentage with Hotrod under center. Exactly. Unless he's on some team like the Denver and Baltimore, where you could throw a trained monkey under center and still win, no team he QBs is going anywhere above that .500-ish threshold. In my opinion, of course. Which is based on two years of fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Exactly. Unless he's on some team like the Denver and Baltimore, where you could throw a trained monkey under center and still win, no team he QBs is going anywhere above that .500-ish threshold. In my opinion, of course. Which is based on two years of fact. You still didn't answer my question. Where does .500ish end. Evidently it's beyond .533 somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 People really need to get off Clay's back. He's rusty, OK? He hasn't had that many balls thrown to him in a game in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) I'm not a TT critic, I think he's good enough to take us to the playoffs with a top 8 defense and top 5 rushing team. With a few more breaks - or a few less injuries - the Bills could have gotten in the playoffs last year. That was (please remember) with a crappy defense often collapsing into full meltdown mode. If they hadn't thrown it away with Miami and given it away with the Jets, I think only one other game had to turn right. So on the face of it, to say the team needs a super elite defense to reach the playoffs seems counterfactual & strange. If I had to guess, the "logic" goes like this : Evidence notwithstanding, Taylor is a very, very "bad" quarterback. Evidence notwithstanding, all "bad" quarterbacks need a super-elite defense to make the playoffs. Ergo, the Bills need .... etc, etc, QED. Edited September 13, 2017 by grb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Has he ever called an audible and have you ever noticed him call an audible are two different things. I don't pretend to be an expert, but he audibled at least once in week one as the color commentator actually pointed it out. Heck, I remember last year he audibled before completing a plus-minus forty yard pass - to Goodwin I believe - not sure of the game. Don't you wonder about the mentality of people who pretend believing Taylor can't audible, or say he isn't even a starting quarterback? It seems to go beyond mere trolling to some weird psychiatric obsession....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 You still didn't answer my question. Where does .500ish end. Evidently it's beyond .533 somewhere. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it ends somewhere in the 500s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) Item : Gugny loves the kid Item : Gugny wants to believe in him Item : Gugny isn't rooting for him to fail Item : Gugny would love to be able to stick with Taylor and not draft a quarterback Item : Gugny is full of (insert scatological obscenity here) Of course you already knew that last one, right? Edited September 13, 2017 by grb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Weird that you used the word "great" for a 284 yard, 1 TD and 0 INT game but "good" for a 300+ yard game with 3 TDs and 0 INTs. Truthfully, really makes you seem like a Troll. I don't think you're one, but you look like one here. Hahaha,Truth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty McFly Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I kept waiting to see these plays and they never came. Zay Jones got zero separation the entire half. Matthews got very very little. This bothers me. This has to be the 3rd or 4th person Ive heard this from. Our WRs are gonna need to do better if this is true. We wont be able to wjn every game witn our WRs only contributing 5 recs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Heck, I remember last year he audibled before completing a plus-minus forty yard pass - to Goodwin I believe - not sure of the game. Don't you wonder about the mentality of people who pretend believing Taylor can't audible, or say he isn't even a starting quarterback? It seems to go beyond mere trolling to some weird psychiatric obsession....... Hahaha. Psychiatric obsession. Hahah Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloflash Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 92 QB rating Sunday. He is our Quarterback. Except it and be happy about it. It's called a positive additude. And,Ty Taylor is still evolving,he could get much better! It's my hope he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb Football Outsiders says he has the 13th highest DYAR and 10th highest DVOA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 People really need to get off Clay's back. He's rusty, OK? He hasn't had that many balls thrown to him in a game in years. I know this is in humor but... Clay had the most receptions on our team last season and the second most the season before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) I will look at it. To me, and I have seen it about eight times, it was both a kinda bad pass and a dropped ball. There is no question he could have made a better pass. And high and behind are extra hard to make. But to me there is also no question that your big dollar TE has to make that touchdown catch when it hits his hands like that. Both things can be true. I don't think you can use a play like that as an example of "missing open receivers" when the play is clearly there to be had, he looks at Clay all the way, he's open for a touchdown and it should have been a touchdown. You can blame him for not throwing a good pass, sure. But IMO you can't say that he missed a way open guy in Zay Jones. Btw, where is that link to the pass. I can't find it. Edit. Found it. Doesn't change my opinion of it. Not great pass. Still should have been caught. It is not the pass to me that is the issue and I feel very justified from my earlier posts. The pick is on TT not because of the pass - where he put the pass was not great, but Clay had a shot - it was how late the pass to Clay was. I will repeat and for those that need to watch it there are links in this thread and others. TT gets to the end of his drop and he is looking for Clay. Clay makes a break at the 4 and pulls immediately away from the LB and is open. TT pulls the ball down and drifts one step to the left. Clay is still open and a throw there to the exact same spot he eventually throws it and it would have been a touchdown, but TT drifts one more step to the left and then tries to fit the ball into the only open spot left high and behind the TE at that point. Clay gets a hand on the ball barely - He could of done better and that part is on Clay, but the pass at that point was way to late. That is what I saw live - that is what I saw on replay - now that is confirmed on the All-22. As I have repeatedly stated - it was not where he threw the ball that was the issue - it was when - especially after watching him stare at Clay the entire play - he has his eyes right on the final location from just after the snap - that part is all on TT. As I said - this to me was a standard TT game - he made some nice plays and missed some plays. He made some good throws and some throws that were late. He moved out of the pocket unnecessarily a few times and into more pressure, but also stayed in the pocket. It was a standard game - nothing to complain about and nothing to get excited about. He will play better in a few games this year and will play worse in a few games and will have 7 or so other games in this very vein. There is a ton of argument on both side because we are a passionate fan base and TT is so middle of the road. There are guys that want better and bash TT for things that an Elite QB can do - that TT will never do - and there are people that praise TT for doing things that make him a Top 10 QB like completion percentage and TD/INT ratio and running the ball. Both sides are correct and both sides want to see someone that will help the team win - it is all about perspective and what you are willing to look for. I for one love the argument when both sides bring facts and info and there are many ways for both sides to be correct. I dislike the few extremes on both sides that just fling out crap like it is truth. The nice thing is it seems there a larger number willing to bring their opinions with some facts and we need more of that and less cold hard statements. Edited September 13, 2017 by Rochesterfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 You still didn't answer my question. Where does .500ish end. Evidently it's beyond .533 somewhere. Oh, I misinterpreted your question, I'm sorry, reddog. I'd say 9-7 would be the ceiling. But not this year. This year, I predicted 4 wins. Five would not shock me. Item : Gugny loves the kid Item : Gugny wants to believe in him Item : Gugny isn't rooting for him to fail Item : Gugny would love to be able to stick with Taylor and not draft a quarterback Item : Gugny is full of (insert scatological obscenity here) Of course you already knew that last one, right? I love you. You single? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 13, 2017 Author Share Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/qb Football Outsiders says he has the 13th highest DYAR and 10th highest DVOA Just a note for people who don't know - DVOA isn't very helpful until after Week 4, which is when they start adjusting for strength of opponent. The first 4 weeks they keep everything equal. That being said, it does at least tell us that in a vacuum and adjusting for game situation Tyrod Taylor played like the 10th most efficient QB in Week 1. That is only for passing, no rushes are included. Let's hope it keeps up! Edited September 13, 2017 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Phil Simms said on Inside the NFL that he likes him so that settles it for me. He's great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I know this is in humor but... Clay had the most receptions on our team last season and the second most the season before. Which is like being the tallest midget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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