CountDorkula Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) Mahomes and Watson were picked 10 and 12 this year....Goff, RGIII, Sanchez......all top 5.....just draft good players... So you choose outliers? Also, why are we writing off Goff already? over 50% of today's starting QB's were drafted top 5. Edited August 28, 2017 by CountDorkula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 If this team regressed from last year we picked the wrong coaches and that's what I'm worried about long term. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 That's fair, but I also like the leverage a top 5 would give. Our guy's not there? Move on down and grab more picks. Either way, I think the FO is on the right path. You have to deconstruct to reconstruct. I'm all for a clean slate with a vision for the future. I get the plan but getting too old to wait much longer So you choose outliers? Also, why are we writing off Goff already? over 50% of today's starting QB's were drafted top 5. Just a small sample size...as far as Goff....some here think if we pick a QB in top 5 he's gonna be Jim Kelly right away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) If this team regressed from last year we picked the wrong coaches and that's what I'm worried about long term. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Disagree. It regressed because we lost both starting CB's Lost 75% of the WR group. Weakened the already weak LB group. Got rid of all S depth. Edited August 28, 2017 by CountDorkula Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 If the Bills are on their way to 2-14 this season, many fans will give up....there will be very little hope and confidence that this will turn around. There were (2) 2-14 and (1) 4-12 season before the Bills turned it around but that was before the salary cap and free agency. The Superbowl teams were kept together because there wasn't free agency. Rebuilding from 2-14 will not be easy and will be painful to watch So what? So what if fans give up? If they give up NOW after 17 years of ****, then that's more of a statement on THEM than the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Go bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HT02 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I am in football mode and I just hate tanking talk. Life is already hard and the Bills are an outlet. I want them to do well today and in the future and I want a QB but we don't need a 1-15 season for one. I was always told to never give up. Football is a tough game for tough people We all want to win Football is my life and passion and I hate losing. Sorry if I offended anybody I'm here as a Bills Fan as we all should be Sometimes losing is the best way to win. Its called the Fabian Strategy developed by Roman general Quintus Fabius Maximus Verrucosus, or Fabius Maximus for short. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintus_Fabius_Maximus_Verrucosus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I am in football mode and I just hate tanking talk. Life is already hard and the Bills are an outlet. I want them to do well today and in the future and I want a QB but we don't need a 1-15 season for one. I was always told to never give up. Football is a tough game for tough people We all want to win Football is my life and passion and I hate losing. Sorry if I offended anybody I'm here as a Bills Fan as we all should be You sure do like starting threads like this, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Sometimes the patient has to suffer some pain before he can get better... It's called "bottoming out"... Obviously this team is going nowhere with TT at QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 So what? So what if fans give up? If they give up NOW after 17 years of ****, then that's more of a statement on THEM than the team. Just that back in those times there were 20-30,000 people in the stands...giving Pegula's impatience I can't see them sitting through 2-3 seasons of this. They allowed the Sabres to tank then fired the GM and coach they hired to rebuild the team after 3 seasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 They are going to have at least two seasons of **** football thanks to the moves they are currently making, IMO. The pressure will be on McDermott/Beane entering year 3. Agree.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Let Peterman start and I bet he wins more than 5. The way TT has played in PS it looks like a one win season. Just that back in those times there were 20-30,000 people in the stands...giving Pegula's impatience I can't see them sitting through 2-3 seasons of this. They allowed the Sabres to tank then fired the GM and coach they hired to rebuild the team after 3 seasons The Sabres went the wrong way trading away all the small faster skilled guys in a skating and speed league. You need 1 or 2 tough guys that can play and a bunch of speed and skill guys like the Leafs. If this team regressed from last year we picked the wrong coaches and that's what I'm worried about long term. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This defense is going to keep them in games,they need a QB to run this new system and I vote for Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KermitMcDermott Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Master P looked at our schedule and said "Ugggghhhhhhhhh!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Let Peterman start and I bet he wins more than 5. The way TT has played in PS it looks like a one win season. The Sabres went the wrong way trading away all the small faster skilled guys in a skating and speed league. You need 1 or 2 tough guys that can play and a bunch of speed and skill guys like the Leafs. This defense is going to keep them in games,they need a QB to run this new system and I vote for Peterman. Tyrod had some excellent games last year. Why are you writing off his accomplishments based on some sloppy pre-season play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanOverChin Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The Bills don't look like their poised to win more than 6 games. TT has been awful. Dareus has been crap. Our CBs are huge question marks. If Glenn can't play LT our offense is going to struggle mightily. I'm all for trying to win every game, give 100%. But the problem is that McBeane has not done enough (probably purposefully) to add to the mix. Our depth at CB, S, WR, LB and TE is seriously lacking. If TT doesn't play well this team is sunk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The Bills don't look like their poised to win more than 6 games. TT has been awful. Dareus has been crap. Our CBs are huge question marks. If Glenn can't play LT our offense is going to struggle mightily. I'm all for trying to win every game, give 100%. But the problem is that McBeane has not done enough (probably purposefully) to add to the mix. Our depth at CB, S, WR, LB and TE is seriously lacking. If TT doesn't play well this team is sunk. When you trade back in the first - and trade your best WR, as well as a young CB... its pretty clear that they know this team is in need of a major shakeup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 They allowed the Sabres to tank then fired the GM and coach they hired to rebuild the team after 3 seasons This was certainly a head scratcher, considering they hovered around .500 for two seasons following three ~50 point seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 The Bills aren't tanking, they just stink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 That's what they think. Doesn't mean they are right. They were absolutely no reason to trade Watkins. I would've rather seen them build on the scheme/offense from last year that performed pretty damn well rather then tear it down with a new scheme. But it is what it is. He could've been great for us - but with several really bad contracts on the books... it's tough to keep extending people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Tyrod had some excellent games last year. Why are you writing off his accomplishments based on some sloppy pre-season play? He does not look like a fit for this offense. Kind of like a square peg in a round hole. Like I said Peterman may or may not be the guy...but if he doesn't play we will never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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