GunnerBill Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 How has Hogan (who I always thought had a high level backup type ceiling - I felt about him the way some here do about Peterman coming out) jumped Kessler on the depth chart Yolo? Kessler started a fair few games without totally sucking last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 i never liked or wanted Hue. Doesn't mean Rex was any better but Hue is awful. His press conferences are brutal too. Â If the Browns fire Hue after the season...I say fire Dennison and pick up Hue. I think he's at least a good coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Browns name Kevin Hogan as starter. #28 since 1999.  No DeShone/DeShaun Bowl on Sunday  And on the complete opposite end of the spectrum Green Bay has had two starting QBs since 1992. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 How has Hogan (who I always thought had a high level backup type ceiling - I felt about him the way some here do about Peterman coming out) jumped Kessler on the depth chart Yolo? Kessler started a fair few games without totally sucking last year. its one of the great mysteries of 2017, along with why he won't make Duke Johnson the feature RB. Kessler fell out of favor with Hue somehow. Hue said that was "his guy" when he drafted him. Waste of a 3rd rd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 its one of the great mysteries of 2017, along with why he won't make Duke Johnson the feature RB. Kessler fell out of favor with Hue somehow. Hue said that was "his guy" when he drafted him. Waste of a 3rd rd pick. Â Yea... and I liked Hogan more than most.... just not sure what Kessler did to fall out of favour. I thought you might have some local insight... but it seems nobody other than Hue knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Always remember that NFL stands for Not For Long:  @Browns Browns will support DeShone Kizer through "the good, the bad, the whatever comes" in 2017 » http://brow.nz/AWPTUE 6:45 PM - 29 Aug 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 You really thought Kevin Hogan could win you a game, Hue. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Wentz and Watson are going to make sure the Browns current braintrust never comes near running a team again. I expect Haslam to hit the total reset again after this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 You really thought Kevin Hogan could win you a game, Hue. Â Â Yeah. That really worked out well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWATeam Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Where are all the people that were so envious of the Browns rebuild? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Kizer was not the reason they lost any games this year. The team is horrible. Literally, have watched parts of all their games, kizer moved the the team up and down the field. Inside the redzone they were a dumpster fire. Eveyone not just the QB. Kickers missing chip shot. Wrs having balls hit them in the chest and bouncing into defenders hands for pick six. Crowell get a pitch that he bobbles drops kicks defense recovers. All of these were proceeded by a good play by Kizer. Edited October 16, 2017 by Mat68 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Blokes, please submit your application  Report: #Browns Begin Searching For New Football Executive http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2017/10/15/report-browns-begin-searching-for-new-football-executive/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Blokes, please submit your application  Report: #Browns Begin Searching For New Football Executive http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2017/10/15/report-browns-begin-searching-for-new-football-executive/amp/  My first ruling as the new Czar of Cleveland will be a participation trophy for Joe Thomas. Poor fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I do wonder if they will call Whaley. It sounds like they are looking to add a guy who knows something about football and not necessarily fire Sashi or depodesta. And Whaley liked Hue at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Where are all the people that were so envious of the Browns rebuild? Â i heard many say they were geniuses. they had a couple really nice shots at a qb and now they have to take a guy next year and hopefully that guy pans out cause if not that franchise will implode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2017 Author Share Posted October 16, 2017 (edited) Where are all the people that were so envious of the Browns rebuild? Â Money ball tank theory remains unproven in the NFL with zero successful models to point to. Edited October 16, 2017 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017  i heard many say they were geniuses. they had a couple really nice shots at a qb and now they have to take a guy next year and hopefully that guy pans out cause if not that franchise will implode  The one thing that Moneyball doesn't seem to quite recognise is the Badol point. Say the Browns first three picks this year - Garrett, Njoku and Peppers all work out and play for 7 or 8 years for the Browns..... that still doesn't equate to the same impact as a franchise QB playing 12-15 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blokestradamus Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 Where are all the people that were so envious of the Browns rebuild? Â I don't think it's ever been a point of envy for me. I just like some of the pieces they've put together. I liked Hue as a hire but it's not worked out. I'd certainly have a different DC. Â No secret that I believe Kizer is good in the long run. Love their OL outside of Coleman. RB is a who's who of my draft crushes, Njoku is gonna be really good. WR is the area I struggle with most, just from a depth perspective. Â I like/love 5 of their front 7. Secondary is an area they need drastic improvement. I even like their ST unit. Â I think coaching is the toughest thing for the Browns to get right because they're like the little fat kid getting picked last in sports. Nobody really wants them and someone has to bite that bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The saddest part has to be that Deshaun Watson said that Hue texted him the morning of the draft and said "be ready" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnC Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 The saddest part has to be that Deshaun Watson said that Hue texted him the morning of the draft and said "be ready" The question that I would love to know is whether Whaley, if he had the authority, wanted to draft a qb in the first round? The next question I would love to know is whether he had Watson above Mahomes or vice versa. There were reports that he wanted to part ways with Taylor but the new regime was willing to keep him with a lesser contract. Hindsight can be so visionary! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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