8-14: Bills' GM Brandon Beane on WGR

[White Linen]

I heard Jeremy White snicker this morning when talking about culture and mention how he gets texts about "you never played sports" insinuating that people who say that somehow don't know what they are talking about. It amazes me how people who have never done something dismiss the opinions of people who have. White has being pushing this narrative that culture doesn't matter in sports and now there are bunch of little minions walking around echoing what he says as if they know what they are talking about. I am not saying analytics do not matter because they do but if you say culture doesn't matter and you have never been in a locker room, you are simply ignorant. There is a reason every single athlete says it matters. It is the epitome of arrogance and ignorance to have an opinion that you believe to be absolute on a subject that you have no real experience with, when the people with the experience have the exact opposite opinion. It is laughable how clueless Jeremy White and those like him who think culture doesn't matter are.

 

I think culture is important and all coaches go after it - albeit in different ways but they all know how necessary it is. The issue is that culture is only sustained from winning. An example of this was the last several episodes of "All Or Nothing" on amazon with the Rams. Fisher and his staff tried everything to keep these guys up after starting 3-1. It was depressing watching that team slide mentally.

 

Culture will come if this coaching staff gets the players to reasonably believe in what their doing now, they game plan well and then they have to win.

[OldTimeAFLGuy]

....although it is all conjecture, what does Beane have to gain by putting untrue crap out there?.....and why would McD have been kept in the dark?....so Beane joined his Panthers' fellow employee in Buffalo to immediately establish an adversarial relationship?....makes perfect sense........surely will "elevate (COUGH)" the organization.....

[chris heff]

You mean follow the patriot model? Surely that will never work.

 

I'm going to repeat this, part of the Patriots model is signing players away from the Bills. Furthermore when you have the greatest player in he game, possibly of all time, you can get away with some mediocre players. Let me know when the Bills have a player that is in the same class as Brady, because it is unlikely that will ever happen if you trade or let good players walk.

[BADOLBILZ]

People def hear what they want to hear

 

I don't know if this is sarcasm, acceptance or the LEAST self-aware post in the history of TSW.

[leonbus23]

I'm so sick of this "culture" BS. Know what builds a culture? Good coaches, good players, and especially a good qb. This isn't high school. Talent wins. Remember the Bickerin' Bills? They won because they had great talent.

 

These guys would have traded Thurman away because he didn't fit their "culture." I'm going to let it play out because what choice do I have? But this is the shortest honeymoon I have ever had with a new "regime."

Agreed.

[reddogblitz]

I wouldn't say it's constant turnover. When you draft a player you typically have them play for 4-5 years. 4-5 years of play is not a constant turnover. Signing guys to 1 year deals every single year, and not having enough money to sign the guys you drafted is constant turnover. The guy is doing this the right way.

Like having our top 2 WRs on 1 year contracts?

[Buffalo Barbarian]

8-14: BRANDON BEANE ON WGR (13:53)

 

Trust the process.

[Cherrybone]

He has a career high 69 catches. That's a joke. He should approach closer to twice that number. He's open virtually every play because there isn't a DB alive who can cover him but the Bills never have the QB who can throw it on time and play pitch n catch all day long

 

And there were plenty of open receivers last season not named Watkins who just did not get the ball because the QB can't see the field and distribute the rock consistently.

 

I don't want to argue with y'all about Tyrod endlessly. If You think he's good then good for you, I'm just stating my perspective

Thaaaaaaaaaank you. The Steelers game was a prime example of how bad Tyrod is. If a receiver isnt WIDE OPEN Tyrod wont get them the ball bottom line. Not only that if Tyrod is really that good why was he forced to take a huge pay cut and years off of his deal? That dont happen to even good qb's. Tyrod hurt Sammys play bottom line.

I'm going to repeat this, part of the Patriots model is signing players away from the Bills. Furthermore when you have the greatest player in he game, possibly of all time, you can get away with some mediocre players. Let me know when the Bills have a player that is in the same class as Brady, because it is unlikely that will ever happen if you trade or let good players walk.

With this regime if they ever get a player of Bradys caliber they will most likely trade him away for draft picks.

[Shaw66]

Let me translate.

"If Sammy had a bad year we weren't going to sign him. If Sammy had a great year we weren't going to pay him. Rookies are cheaper so we are going to trade players or let them walk and just have constant turn over."

"EJ Gaines is short, but if you kind of squint he looks taller."

exactly right about Sammy.

[hondo in seattle]

I wouldn't say it's constant turnover. When you draft a player you typically have them play for 4-5 years. 4-5 years of play is not a constant turnover. Signing guys to 1 year deals every single year, and not having enough money to sign the guys you drafted is constant turnover. The guy is doing this the right way.

 

Yep.

 

You can have a few pricey FAs. And a few JAG signings. But if your own draft picks aren't contributing, you're in trouble because the draft is the only place where you can get good players on the cheap.

 

When Beane says you have to build through the draft he doesn't mean exclusively through the draft. But you do have to be successful there. Having more draft picks certainly helps.

[White Linen]

 

Yep.

 

You can have a few pricey FAs. And a few JAG signings. But if your own draft picks aren't contributing, you're in trouble because the draft is the only place where you can get good players on the cheap.

 

When Beane says you have to build through the draft he doesn't mean exclusively through the draft. But you do have to be successful there. Having more draft picks certainly helps.

 

As we all know the problem is finding that allusive QB in the draft and if you're not high enough - what's it going to cost? You then have to unload some serious picks and pray that he's the guy. If he is, drafting and player acquisition gets a heck of a lot easier. I just want us to get lucky and have one soon. Until then I'll root for the team to do well but with that thought constantly in my head. I'll hope Peterman is our guy until proven otherwise.

[C.Biscuit97]

I heard Jeremy White snicker this morning when talking about culture and mention how he gets texts about "you never played sports" insinuating that people who say that somehow don't know what they are talking about. It amazes me how people who have never done something dismiss the opinions of people who have. White has being pushing this narrative that culture doesn't matter in sports and now there are bunch of little minions walking around echoing what he says as if they know what they are talking about. I am not saying analytics do not matter because they do but if you say culture doesn't matter and you have never been in a locker room, you are simply ignorant. There is a reason every single athlete says it matters. It is the epitome of arrogance and ignorance to have an opinion that you believe to be absolute on a subject that you have no real experience with, when the people with the experience have the exact opposite opinion. It is laughable how clueless Jeremy White and those like him who think culture doesn't matter are.

1) I played football for 4 years in college and 4 varsity sports in high school. Not bragging but I played at a fairly high level and know exactly how the locker room works.

 

Guess what happens? Star players get treated differently than walk ons. If you are a good player, you get a slap on the wrist when you do something dumb while a scrub gets kicked off the team for the same issue. That's how they send their messages.

 

Coaches at higher levels are expected to win over anything. This isn't high school or pop warner.

 

2). What have Beane or McD even built for us to blindly trust them?

 

3) the NE culture is Tom Brady. Everything works because of him. Belichick can be tough on players because he has Brady. He has possibly the best player in NFL history who is also the hardest worker. They kept Hernandez who had a history of issues going back to high school who nearly beat up Welker in the locker room.

 

GB's culture is Aaron Rodgers. NO's is Brees.

 

In high school, we had spaghetti dinners and prayed as a team before games. In the NFL, these guys are separate businesses. Save the BS culture for high school.

[Kelly the Dog]

1) I played football for 4 years in college and 4 varsity sports in high school. Not bragging but I played at a fairly high level and know exactly how the locker room works.

Guess what happens? Star players get treated differently than walk ons. If you are a good player, you get a slap on the wrist when you do something dumb while a scrub gets kicked off the team for the same issue. That's how they send their messages.

Coaches at higher levels are expected to win over anything. This isn't high school or pop warner.

2). What have Beane or McD even built for us to blindly trust them?

3) the NE culture is Tom Brady. Everything works because of him. Belichick can be tough on players because he has Brady. He has possibly the best player in NFL history who is also the hardest worker. They kept Hernandez who had a history of issues going back to high school who nearly beat up Welker in the locker room.

GB's culture is Aaron Rodgers. NO's is Brees.

In high school, we had spaghetti dinners and prayed as a team before games. In the NFL, these guys are separate businesses. Save the BS culture for high school.

Good post and exactly correct.