Gugny Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 You are the unquestioned king of arguing just for the sake of arguing on TSW. Not in this case. I have a soft spot for those suffering from this disease and when a bunch of idiots who have no idea about it judge someone who has it, I guess it pisses me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Whoa. Stop the presses. I had NO IDEA we were dealing with such a threat to society, here. He smokes pot AND runs red lights? Cut his ass, NOW. What an animal. nice hot take I believe that one of your arguments against Rex Ryan was that he didn't hold player accountable. No discipline. Why isn't Washington accountable for his actions? Could it be that his case doesn't fit your bleeding heart narrative? Not in this case. I have a soft spot for those suffering from this disease and when a bunch of idiots who have no idea about it judge someone who has it, I guess it pisses me off.What drove him to the weed before his diagnosis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Isn't Seantrel the O lineman with no kidneys? Or am I mistaken? So far we have Crohn's, no kidneys/dialysis at halftime, and a dude who streaks through cow pasture asking to be shot....great work Whaley!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Not in this case. I have a soft spot for those suffering from this disease and when a bunch of idiots who have no idea about it judge someone who has it, I guess it pisses me off. c'mon man. He has rules he must follow like the rest of the team. Isn't Seantrel the O lineman with no kidneys? Or am I mistaken? So far we have Crohn's, no kidneys/dialysis at halftime, and a dude who streaks through cow pasture asking to be shot....great work Whaley!! I search the board every day for mentioning of cows. So, I saw this. Hi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 Neither. Do. You. Either: He got Crohn's after joining NFL He had Crohn's before signed contract with Bills and did not reveal it He had Crohn's when he signed contract with Bills and revealed it. In 1st case the MJ was recreationalIn 2nd case it is his issue since he did not tell them In 3rd case the Bills should have expected this and either not signed him or put clause in contract. I watched a relative go from having lots of potential with solid job to being pothead unable to go without pot, losing job and stealing from family to pay from pot. Then he stole from others when he was cut off (locked out), was caught and sent to jail including treatment. When he got out he was helped out by family and a family friend gave him a job. He stole from employer, kicked out of housing and once again arrested. After treatment he is out again although in halfway house and will see how long he can go before violating parole (drug tests). Nsfw language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Not in this case. I have a soft spot for those suffering from this disease and when a bunch of idiots who have no idea about it judge someone who has it, I guess it pisses me off. It seems like every case........you form an opinion........often seemingly without use of facts, stats or logic.........then double down by refusing to be swayed by facts, stats or logic. This dude failed like 10 drug tests combined at the U, the NFL combine and the NFL......per Henderson......PRIOR to his crohns symptoms. He's been making excuses for himself for a long time and even he isn't saying that much about this.........because he dug his own ditch. It's not like they test you every day.......do some research........it's utter carelessness to get caught in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 It seems like every case........you form an opinion........often seemingly without use of facts, stats or logic.........then double down by refusing to be swayed by facts, stats or logic. This dude failed like 10 drug tests combined at the U, the NFL combine and the NFL......per Henderson......PRIOR to his crohns symptoms. He's been making excuses for himself for a long time and even he isn't saying that much about this.........because he dug his own ditch. It's not like they test you every day.......do some research........it's utter carelessness to get caught in the first place. Prior to his Crohn's diagnosis. Not symptoms. No one knows when his symptoms started. If someone said to you - "hey man, I'm going to put you in serious pain. But if you don't go to the doctor to get it diagnosed for a couple years, then I'll give you millions of dollars. But if you DO get it diagnosed, those millions are off the table because you might have an incurable disease that no NFL team wants to touch." What would you do? More importantly, this might POSSIBLY be the scenario this man lived and no one - but him - can say what he'd do. So if he turned to pot for under the radar pain control so he could secure a spot in the NFL - would you hold that against him? I wouldn't. Furthermore, I always bring stats and logic to my arguments when necessary, so check again, friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Prior to his Crohn's diagnosis. Not symptoms. No one knows when his symptoms started. If someone said to you - "hey man, I'm going to put you in serious pain. But if you don't go to the doctor to get it diagnosed for a couple years, then I'll give you millions of dollars. But if you DO get it diagnosed, those millions are off the table because you might have an incurable disease that no NFL team wants to touch." What would you do? More importantly, this might POSSIBLY be the scenario this man lived and no one - but him - can say what he'd do. So if he turned to pot for under the radar pain control so he could secure a spot in the NFL - would you hold that against him? I wouldn't. Furthermore, I always bring stats and logic to my arguments when necessary, so check again, friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Prior to his Crohn's diagnosis. Not symptoms. No one knows when his symptoms started. If someone said to you - "hey man, I'm going to put you in serious pain. But if you don't go to the doctor to get it diagnosed for a couple years, then I'll give you millions of dollars. But if you DO get it diagnosed, those millions are off the table because you might have an incurable disease that no NFL team wants to touch." What would you do? More importantly, this might POSSIBLY be the scenario this man lived and no one - but him - can say what he'd do. So if he turned to pot for under the radar pain control so he could secure a spot in the NFL - would you hold that against him? I wouldn't. Furthermore, I always bring stats and logic to my arguments when necessary, so check again, friend. Multiple failed drug tests and character problems could've just as easily made him untouchable and sunk his NFL career. This argument is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Multiple failed drug tests and character problems could've just as easily made him untouchable and sunk his NFL career. This argument is flawed. Character problems because he ran a red light and gets high. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 My theory is that he was self-medicating/smoking MJ for pain management since he didn't want to get a formal diagnosis prior to being drafted. EDIT: What legal trouble? KNow what was probably worse for his draft stock than a diagnosis? All the failed drug tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Character problems because he ran a red light and gets high. Got it. Yes dude. Do you watch the NFL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 ....if the treatment for his illness is medically acceptable, how does the arrogant NFL turn a blind eye and under what premise?....I missed Roger's memo........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Prior to his Crohn's diagnosis. Not symptoms. No one knows when his symptoms started. If someone said to you - "hey man, I'm going to put you in serious pain. But if you don't go to the doctor to get it diagnosed for a couple years, then I'll give you millions of dollars. But if you DO get it diagnosed, those millions are off the table because you might have an incurable disease that no NFL team wants to touch." What would you do? More importantly, this might POSSIBLY be the scenario this man lived and no one - but him - can say what he'd do. So if he turned to pot for under the radar pain control so he could secure a spot in the NFL - would you hold that against him? I wouldn't. Furthermore, I always bring stats and logic to my arguments when necessary, so check again, friend. Ethically you tell NFL. Unethically do what Gungy would do - smoke a bowl and forget about ethics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 ....if the treatment for his illness is medically acceptable, how does the arrogant NFL turn a blind eye and under what premise?....I missed Roger's memo........... Seantrel has never said he uses pot for his Crohn's. Or that his doctor told him to use it. Or that his doctor prescribed it. In fact, Seantrel has said nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Seantrel has never said he uses pot for his Crohn's. Or that his doctor told him to use it. Or that his doctor prescribed it. In fact, Seantrel has said nothing at all. Yes, he has. http://buffalonews.com/2016/10/27/seantrel-henderson-opens-battle-crohns-disease-drug-suspension/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Yes, he has. http://buffalonews.com/2016/10/27/seantrel-henderson-opens-battle-crohns-disease-drug-suspension/ Wow, I completely missed that article. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 ^^this should just about end the conversation into recreational/medical use. Im hoping the kid gets/stays healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Yes dude. Do you watch the NFL? He was a coach killer in college.......played poorly and was a constant disciplinary issue for the drugs......but Golden's roster was so thin he couldn't simply eject a player with that kind of elite talent. Henderson should have been a top 10 pick and a franchise LT........more athletic than Bryant McKinnie was......and just talented enough to keep getting opportunities to disappoint. Despite it all, Buffalo won't likely be his last stop......someone will take a shot because if he grows up he is a talent. Probably end up with Saint Anthony in LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kemp Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 My theory is that he was self-medicating/smoking MJ for pain management since he didn't want to get a formal diagnosis prior to being drafted. EDIT: What legal trouble? If you are suffering from the level of pain that Crohns delivers, you don't walk. You run to the doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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