Kirby Jackson Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 What a difference patience and discipline can make in a coaching philosophy. McD knows players will fall as the off season goes on. Chance favors the prepared mind. He will weed out the players from the pretenders. Separate those who want to be here as compared to those looking for a payday. Hodges/ Macklin/ Barnidge would be such a trifecta if he can pull it off. This approach is such a refreshing change.As opposed to Pro Bowlers Zach Brown and Lorenzo Alexander later in the process....this isn't new!! This is where the Bills excel. Landing Maclin will continue a trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Keep 'em crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 My only problem with crediting the staff with patience and discipline is that they moved waaaaaaay too quickly to sign fringe NFL players like Ducasse and Holmes. Neither signed for a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalothruMyVeins Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 So, let's pretend that the KC trade was actually our #10 this year for their #26 this year (I think that's what it was), their 4th rounder this year, their 1st rounder next year, and Jeremy Maclin, at 1/2 to 1/3 of his contract. That feels even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Neither signed for a lot of money. Both are getting more than $1M per, and both will cost additional cap space to cut prior to Week 1. Bad moves IMO; trading up to get Zay and Dawkins made those two moves even worse as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Both are getting more than $1M per, and both will cost additional cap space to cut prior to Week 1. Bad moves IMO; trading up to get Zay and Dawkins made those two moves even worse as well. I liked the trade up for Zay. They desperately need a #2 and there was a drop after him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I liked the trade up for Zay. They desperately need a #2 and there was a drop after him IMO. I actually like it as well--I just meant the trade-ups it made overpaying for Holmes and Ducasse (and at the expense of a 3rd round comp pick) look worse IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Both are getting more than $1M per, and both will cost additional cap space to cut prior to Week 1. Bad moves IMO; trading up to get Zay and Dawkins made those two moves even worse as well. They are not bad moves if they start and excel......once you draft players it doesnt matter where they were drafted (in my opinion) I actually like it as well--I just meant the trade-ups it made overpaying for Holmes and Ducasse (and at the expense of a 3rd round comp pick) look worse IMO but you dont know at that time what is gonna be availale later.....I mean just look at the Maclin thing....did anyone expect that release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Sign him now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Both are getting more than $1M per, and both will cost additional cap space to cut prior to Week 1. Bad moves IMO; trading up to get Zay and Dawkins made those two moves even worse as well. They were signed prior to the draft. The Bills had no idea who would be available when they drafted. As for their contracts, if they stick, they're bargains. If they get cut, like say before week 10, they're still not bad and at least they got something out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I actually like it as well--I just meant the trade-ups it made overpaying for Holmes and Ducasse (and at the expense of a 3rd round comp pick) look worse IMOThat I agree with. I even KIND of understood Holmes. I have no idea what they were doing with Ducasse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Could this really happen? Jesus Christ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Both are getting more than $1M per, and both will cost additional cap space to cut prior to Week 1. Bad moves IMO; trading up to get Zay and Dawkins made those two moves even worse as well. Here is the thing though...at the time we signed them they were not bad moves, they were depth players we needed and signings with upside. You can't base your FA signings on what you think you might get in the draft. You sign players and then when the draft comes around you draft based on whats available. So the two trade ups to get guys like Zay don't make the other signings bad just because they saw a chance in the draft to get coveted rookies too. I would rather have too many good or solid WR's then not enough like we have had the last 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 That I agree with. I even KIND of understood Holmes. I have no idea what they were doing with Ducasse. New management or not, they're still the Bills. They have a reputation to uphold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 That I agree with. I even KIND of understood Holmes. I have no idea what they were doing with Ducasse. Whaley's middle finger out the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 That I agree with. I even KIND of understood Holmes. I have no idea what they were doing with Ducasse. Neither do I. Thankfully they didn't give him much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Here is the thing though...at the time we signed them they were not bad moves, they were depth players we needed and signings with upside. You can't base your FA signings on what you think you might get in the draft. You sign players and then when the draft comes around you draft based on whats available. So the two trade ups to get guys like Zay don't make the other signings bad just because they saw a chance in the draft to get coveted rookies too. I would rather have too many good or solid WR's then not enough like we have had the last 2 years. Except Ducasse is trash and we could've easily found other trash depth that didn't cost a third. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 They are not bad moves if they start and excel......once you draft players it doesnt matter where they were drafted (in my opinion) but you dont know at that time what is gonna be availale later.....I mean just look at the Maclin thing....did anyone expect that release? I don't believe that Ducasse belongs in anyone's lineup, nor do I think that he's one of their 9 best OLmen right now. If he ends up playing a meaningful role on the OL for this team, then the unit is in trouble. The point isn't that they should've known what they were going to do come draft day, but rather that they shouldn't have been in a rush to sign competition for the WR4 and OL9 spots when there seems to always be depth players available in June. Here is the thing though...at the time we signed them they were not bad moves, they were depth players we needed and signings with upside. You can't base your FA signings on what you think you might get in the draft. You sign players and then when the draft comes around you draft based on whats available. So the two trade ups to get guys like Zay don't make the other signings bad just because they saw a chance in the draft to get coveted rookies too. I would rather have too many good or solid WR's then not enough like we have had the last 2 years. Ducasse was an awful signing regardless. And see above for my overarching point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 #Bills are in "preliminary talks" 2 sign Jeremy Maclin, per source. LeSean McCoy is recruiting the WR and the team wants him onboard as well. https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/871446793392984066 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Doom Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Perhaps he's just using the Bills for leverage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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